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another·alsoAparāpi
indeedkho
memaṁ,
Bhāradvājabhāradvāja,
seconddutiyā
comparisonupamā
to·appearedpaṭibhāsi
not·wonderfulanacchariyā
beforepubbe
unheard·beforeassutapubbā.
supposeSeyyathāpi,
Bhāradvājabhāradvāja,
greenallaṁ
logkaṭṭhaṁ
with·sapsasnehaṁ
far fromārakā
waterudakā
on dry landthale
down·thrownnikkhittaṁ.
thenAtha
a personpuriso
to·goāgaccheyya
drill-stickuttarāraṇiṁ
to·takingādāya:
fire‘aggiṁ
forth·produceabhinibbattessāmi,
heattejo
I will make manifestpātukarissāmī’ti.
thatTaṁ
whatkiṁ
do you thinkmaññasi,
Bhāradvājabhāradvāja,
apiapi
nunu
heso
personpuriso
thatamuṁ
greenallaṁ
logkaṭṭhaṁ
with·sapsasnehaṁ
far fromārakā
waterudakā
on dry landthale
down·thrownnikkhittaṁ
drill-stickuttarāraṇiṁ
to·takingādāya
forth·drillabhimanthento
fireaggiṁ
forth·produceabhinibbatteyya
heattejo
could make manifestpātukareyyā”ti?
no“No
indeed + thishidaṁ,
worthybho
Gotamagotama.
thatTaṁ
of whatkissa
causehetu?
this·indeedAduñhi,
worthybho
Gotamagotama,
greenallaṁ
logkaṭṭhaṁ
with·sapsasnehaṁ,
althoughkiñcāpi
far fromārakā
waterudakā
on dry landthale
down·thrownnikkhittaṁ;
Then a second example occurred to me. Suppose there was a green, sappy log, and it was lying on dry land far from the water. Then a person comes along with a drill-stick, thinking to light a fire and produce heat. What do you think, Bhāradvāja? By drilling the stick against that green, sappy log on dry land far from water, could they light a fire and produce heat?” “No, worthy Gotama. Why is that? Because it’s still a green, sappy log, despite the fact that it’s lying on dry land far from water.
as far as·giveyāvadeva
andca
thenpana
thatso
personpuriso
of wearinesskilamathassa
of frustrationvighātassa
partakerbhāgī
would beassā”ti.
in just the same way“Evameva
indeedkho,
Bhāradvājabhāradvāja,
whoeverye
indeedhi
anykeci
asceticssamaṇā
orvā
brahminsbrāhmaṇā
orvā
in bodykāyena
andceva
in mindcittena
andca
from sensual pleasureskāmehi
withdrawnvūpakaṭṭhā
they liveviharanti,
whichyo
andca
theirnesaṁ
regarding sensual pleasureskāmesu
sensual pleasure·desirekāmacchando
sensual pleasure·affectionkāmasneho
sensual pleasure·infatuationkāmamucchā
sensual pleasure·thirstkāmapipāsā
sensual pleasure·passionkāmapariḷāho
thatso
andca
internallyajjhattaṁ
notna
well·abandonedsuppahīno
ishoti
notna
well stilledsuppaṭippassaddho,
due to exertionopakkamikā
and ifcepi
thosete
goodbhonto
ascetic·brahminsamaṇabrāhmaṇā
painfuldukkhā
sharptibbā
severekharā
acutekaṭukā
feelingsvedanā
they feelvedayanti,
incapable indeedabhabbāva
theyte
of knowledgeñāṇāya
of visiondassanāya
of supremeanuttarāya
of awakeningsambodhāya.
notNo
and ifcepi
thosete
goodbhonto
ascetic·brahminsamaṇabrāhmaṇā
due to exertionopakkamikā
painfuldukkhā
sharptibbā
severekharā
acutekaṭukā
feelingsvedanā
they feelvedayanti,
incapable indeedabhabbāva
theyte
of knowledgeñāṇāya
of visiondassanāya
of supremeanuttarāya
of awakeningsambodhāya.
thisAyaṁ
indeedkho
to memaṁ,
Bhāradvājabhāradvāja,
seconddutiyā
exampleupamā
occurredpaṭibhāsi
uninspiredanacchariyā
beforepubbe
not heard beforeassutapubbā.
That person will eventually get weary and frustrated.” “In the same way, there are ascetics and brahmins who live withdrawn in body and mind from sensual pleasures. But they haven’t internally given up or stilled desire, affection, infatuation, thirst, and passion for sensual pleasures. Regardless of whether or not they suffer painful, sharp, severe, acute feelings due to exertion, they are incapable of knowledge and vision, of supreme awakening. This was the second example that occurred to me.
other·alsoAparāpi
indeedkho
memaṁ,
Bhāradvājabhāradvāja,
thirdtatiyā
exampleupamā
back·shinepaṭibhāsi
not·wonderfulanacchariyā
beforepubbe
unheard beforeassutapubbā.
just asSeyyathāpi,
Bhāradvājabhāradvāja,
drysukkhaṁ
logkaṭṭhaṁ
witheredkoḷāpaṁ
far fromārakā
waterudakā
on dry landthale
depositednikkhittaṁ.
thenAtha
a personpuriso
to·goāgaccheyya
upper fire-stickuttarāraṇiṁ
having takenādāya:
fire‘aggiṁ
I will produceabhinibbattessāmi,
heattejo
I will make appearpātukarissāmī’ti.
thatTaṁ
whatkiṁ
do you thinkmaññasi,
Bhāradvājabhāradvāja,
andapi
nownu
thatso
personpuriso
thatamuṁ
drysukkhaṁ
logkaṭṭhaṁ
witheredkoḷāpaṁ
far fromārakā
waterudakā
on dry landthale
down·thrownnikkhittaṁ
upper fire-stickuttarāraṇiṁ
to·takenādāya
against·rubbingabhimanthento
fireaggiṁ
could produceabhinibbatteyya,
heattejo
could make appearpātukareyyā”ti?
yes“Evaṁ,
worthybho
Gotamagotama.
thatTaṁ
of whatkissa
reasonhetu?
because indeedAduñhi,
worthybho
Gotamagotama,
drysukkhaṁ
logkaṭṭhaṁ
witheredkoḷāpaṁ,
that + andtañca
butpana
far fromārakā
waterudakā
on dry landthale
depositednikkhittan”ti.
Then a third example occurred to me. Suppose there was a dried up, withered log, and it was lying on dry land far from the water. Then a person comes along with a drill-stick, thinking to light a fire and produce heat. What do you think, Bhāradvāja? By drilling the stick against that dried up, withered log on dry land far from water, could they light a fire and produce heat?” “Yes, worthy Gotama. Why is that? Because it’s a dried up, withered log, and it’s lying on dry land far from water.”
just so“Evameva
indeedkho,
Bhāradvājabhāradvāja,
whoye
surelyhi
whateverkeci
asceticssamaṇā
orvā
brahminsbrāhmaṇā
orvā
in bodykāyena
andceva
in mindcittena
andca
from sensual pleasureskāmehi
withdrawnvūpakaṭṭhā
they liveviharanti,
whichyo
andca
theirnesaṁ
toward sensual pleasureskāmesu
desirekāmacchando
affectionkāmasneho
infatuationkāmamucchā
thirstkāmapipāsā
passionkāmapariḷāho
thatso
andca
internallyajjhattaṁ
well abandonedsuppahīno
ishoti
well stilledsuppaṭippassaddho,
due to exertionopakkamikā
even ifcepi
theyte
sirsbhonto
ascetics and brahminssamaṇabrāhmaṇā
painfuldukkhā
sharptibbā
severekharā
acutekaṭukā
feelingsvedanā
they feelvedayanti,
capablebhabbāva
theyte
of knowledgeñāṇāya
of visiondassanāya
of supremeanuttarāya
of awakeningsambodhāya.
notNo
even ifcepi
theyte
sirsbhonto
ascetics and brahminssamaṇabrāhmaṇā
due to exertionopakkamikā
painfuldukkhā
sharptibbā
severekharā
acutekaṭukā
feelingsvedanā
they feelvedayanti,
capablebhabbāva
theyte
of knowledgeñāṇāya
of visiondassanāya
of supremeanuttarāya
of awakeningsambodhāya.
thisAyaṁ
indeedkho
to memaṁ,
Bhāradvājabhāradvāja,
thirdtatiyā
exampleupamā
occurredpaṭibhāsi
uninspiredanacchariyā
beforepubbe
never heard beforeassutapubbā.
theseImā
indeedkho
to memaṁ,
Bhāradvājabhāradvāja,
threetisso
examplesupamā
occurredpaṭibhaṁsu
uninspiredanacchariyā
beforepubbe
never heard beforeassutapubbā.
“In the same way, there are ascetics and brahmins who live withdrawn in body and mind from sensual pleasures. And they have internally given up and stilled desire, affection, infatuation, thirst, and passion for sensual pleasures. Regardless of whether or not they suffer painful, sharp, severe, acute feelings due to exertion, they are capable of knowledge and vision, of supreme awakening. This was the third example that occurred to me. These are the three similes, which were neither supernaturally inspired, nor learned before in the past, that occurred to me.
of thatTassa
to memayhaṁ,
Bhāradvājabhāradvāja,
this + occurredetadahosi:
why don't I‘yannūnāhaṁ
teeth·tooth·having applieddantebhidantamādhāya,
with tonguejivhāya
palatetāluṁ
having pressedāhacca,
with mindcetasā
mindcittaṁ
against·squeezeabhiniggaṇheyyaṁ
against·squashabhinippīḷeyyaṁ
against·scorchabhisantāpeyyan’ti.
thatSo
indeedkho
Iahaṁ,
Bhāradvājabhāradvāja,
teeth·tooth·having applieddantebhidantamādhāya,
with tonguejivhāya
palatetāluṁ
having pressedāhacca,
with mindcetasā
mindcittaṁ
against·squeezeabhiniggaṇhāmi
against·squashabhinippīḷemi
against·scorchabhisantāpemi.
of thatTassa
to memayhaṁ,
Bhāradvājabhāradvāja,
teeth·tooth·having applieddantebhidantamādhāya,
with tonguejivhāya
palatetāluṁ
having pressedāhacca,
with mindcetasā
mindcittaṁ
against·squeezeabhiniggaṇhato
against·squashabhinippīḷayato
against·scorchabhisantāpayato
from armpitskacchehi
sweatssedā
are releasedmuccanti.
just asSeyyathāpi,
Bhāradvājabhāradvāja,
strongbalavā
manpuriso
weakerdubbalataraṁ
manpurisaṁ
by headsīse
orvā
having grabbedgahetvā
by shoulderkhandhe
orvā
having grabbedgahetvā
against·squeezeabhiniggaṇheyya
against·squashabhinippīḷeyya
against·crushabhisantāpeyya;
even soevameva
indeedkho
to meme,
Bhāradvājabhāradvāja,
teeth·tooth·having applieddantebhidantamādhāya,
with tonguejivhāya
palatetāluṁ
having pressedāhacca,
with mindcetasā
mindcittaṁ
against·squeezeabhiniggaṇhato
against·squashabhinippīḷayato
against·scorchabhisantāpayato
from armpitskacchehi
sweatssedā
are releasedmuccanti.
roused upĀraddhaṁ
indeedkho
butpana
of meme,
Bhāradvājabhāradvāja,
energyvīriyaṁ
ishoti
unflaggingasallīnaṁ,
establishedupaṭṭhitā
mindfulnesssati
unconfusedasammuṭṭhā;
disturbedsāraddho
andca
butpana
of meme
bodykāyo
ishoti
not tranquilappaṭippassaddho,
that + veryteneva
painful·strivingdukkhappadhānena
striving + assailedpadhānābhitunnassa
mindfulsato.
Then it occurred to me, ‘Why don’t I, with teeth clenched and tongue pressed against the roof of my mouth, squeeze, squash, and scorch mind with mind?’ So that’s what I did, until sweat ran from my armpits. It was like when a strong man grabs a weaker man by the head or throat or shoulder and squeezes, squashes, and crushes them. In the same way, with teeth clenched and tongue pressed against the roof of my mouth, I squeezed, squashed, and crushed mind with mind until sweat ran from my armpits. My energy was roused up and unflagging, and my mindfulness was established and lucid, but my body was disturbed, not tranquil, because I’d pushed too hard with that painful striving.
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