At Devadaha · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral
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thusEvaṁ
by meme
heardsutaṁ—
oneekaṁ
timesamayaṁ
the Blessed Onebhagavā
among the Sakyanssakkesu
was stayingviharati
Devadahadevadahaṁ
namednāma
of the Sakyanssakyānaṁ
townnigamo.
thereTatra
indeedkho
the Blessed Onebhagavā
the mendicantsbhikkhū
addressedāmantesi:
“mendicants!”“bhikkhavo”ti.
“venerable sir,”“Bhadante”ti
theyte
mendicantsbhikkhū
to the Blessed Onebhagavato
they replied.paccassosuṁ.
the Blessed OneBhagavā
said this:etadavoca:
“there are,“santi,
mendicants,bhikkhave,
someeke
ascetics and brahminssamaṇabrāhmaṇā
having this doctrineevaṁvādino
having this view:evaṁdiṭṭhino:
whatever‘yaṁ
thiskiñcāyaṁ
individual personpurisapuggalo
experiencespaṭisaṁvedeti
pleasurable,sukhaṁ
orvā
painful,dukkhaṁ
orvā
neutraladukkhamasukhaṁ
or,vā,
allsabbaṁ
thattaṁ
is because of past deeds.pubbekatahetu.
so,Iti
of oldpurāṇānaṁ
of deedskammānaṁ
by fervent mortificationtapasā
due to eliminating,byantībhāvā,
of newnavānaṁ
of deedskammānaṁ
by not doing,akaraṇā,
in the futureāyatiṁ
there is nothing to come up;anavassavo;
in the futureāyatiṁ
with no future consequenceanavassavā
deeds end;kammakkhayo;
with the ending of deedskammakkhayā
suffering ends;dukkhakkhayo;
with the ending of sufferingdukkhakkhayā
feeling ends;vedanākkhayo;
with the ending of feeling,vedanākkhayā
allsabbaṁ
sufferingdukkhaṁ
worn awaynijjiṇṇaṁ
will have been.’bhavissatī’ti.
such is the doctrine ofEvaṁvādino,
mendicants,bhikkhave,
the Jain ascetics.nigaṇṭhā.
of such doctrine IEvaṁvādāhaṁ,
monksbhikkhave,
to the Jain asceticsnigaṇṭhe
having approachedupasaṅkamitvā
thusevaṁ
I sayvadāmi:
is it true‘saccaṁ
indeedkira
youtumhe,
friendāvuso
Jain asceticsnigaṇṭhā,
of such doctrineevaṁvādino
of such viewevaṁdiṭṭhino—
whateveryaṁ
whatever thiskiñcāyaṁ
individual personpurisapuggalo
experiencespaṭisaṁvedeti
pleasuresukhaṁ
orvā
paindukkhaṁ
orvā
neither-pain-nor-pleasureadukkhamasukhaṁ
orvā,
allsabbaṁ
thattaṁ
due to past deedspubbekatahetu.
thusIti
oldpurāṇānaṁ
of deedskammānaṁ
by austeritytapasā
from destructionbyantībhāvā,
newnavānaṁ
of deedskammānaṁ
from not doingakaraṇā,
in the futureāyatiṁ
no influxanavassavo;
in the futureāyatiṁ
from no influxanavassavā
destruction of kammakammakkhayo;
from destruction of kammakammakkhayā
destruction of sufferingdukkhakkhayo;
from destruction of sufferingdukkhakkhayā
destruction of feelingvedanākkhayo;
from destruction of feelingvedanākkhayā
allsabbaṁ
sufferingdukkhaṁ
worn outnijjiṇṇaṁ
will bebhavissatī’ti?
theyTe
andca
by meme,
monksbhikkhave,
Jain asceticsnigaṇṭhā
thusevaṁ
askedpuṭṭhā
“yes”‘āmā’ti
they admitpaṭijānanti.
I to themTyāhaṁ
thusevaṁ
I say:vadāmi:
quotation marker: whether‘kiṁ
butpana
youtumhe,
reverendāvuso
Jainsnigaṇṭhā,
you know—jānātha—
we existedahuvamheva
wemayaṁ
in the pastpubbe,
notna
we did not exist?nāhuvamhā’ti?
quotation marker: no‘No
indeed thishidaṁ,
reverend.āvuso’.
quotation marker: whether‘Kiṁ
butpana
youtumhe,
reverendāvuso
Jainsnigaṇṭhā,
you know—jānātha—
we didakaramheva
wemayaṁ
in the pastpubbe
bad deedspāpakammaṁ,
notna
we did not do?nākaramhā’ti?
quotation marker: no‘No
indeed thishidaṁ,
reverend.āvuso’.
quotation marker: whether‘Kiṁ
butpana
youtumhe,
reverendāvuso
Jainsnigaṇṭhā,
you know—jānātha—
of such kindevarūpaṁ
orvā
of such kindevarūpaṁ
orvā
bad deedspāpakammaṁ
we did?akaramhā’ti?
quotation marker: no‘No
indeed thishidaṁ,
reverend.āvuso’.
quotation marker: whether‘Kiṁ
butpana
youtumhe,
reverendāvuso
Jainsnigaṇṭhā,
you know—jānātha—
so muchettakaṁ
orvā
sufferingdukkhaṁ
worn awaynijjiṇṇaṁ,
so muchettakaṁ
orvā
sufferingdukkhaṁ
to be worn awaynijjīretabbaṁ,
in so muchettakamhi
orvā
sufferingdukkhe
worn awaynijjiṇṇe
allsabbaṁ
sufferingdukkhaṁ
worn awaynijjiṇṇaṁ
will be?bhavissatī’ti?
quotation marker: no‘No
indeed thishidaṁ,
reverend.āvuso’.
quotation marker: whether‘Kiṁ
butpana
youtumhe,
reverendāvuso
Jainsnigaṇṭhā,
you know—jānātha—
in this very lifediṭṭheva
in the doctrinedhamme
of unskillfulakusalānaṁ
qualitiesdhammānaṁ
giving uppahānaṁ,
of skillfulkusalānaṁ
qualitiesdhammānaṁ
embracing?upasampadan’ti?
quotation marker: no‘No
indeed thishidaṁ,
reverend.āvuso’.
thus‘Iti
indeedkira
youtumhe,
friendsāvuso
Jainsnigaṇṭhā,
notna
you knowjānātha—
we wereahuvamheva
wemayaṁ
beforepubbe,
notna
we were notnāhuvamhāti,
notna
you knowjānātha—
we didakaramheva
wemayaṁ
beforepubbe
evil deedpāpakammaṁ,
notna
we did not donākaramhāti,
notna
you knowjānātha—
suchevarūpaṁ
orvā
suchevarūpaṁ
orvā
evil deedpāpakammaṁ
we didakaramhāti,
notna
you knowjānātha—
this muchettakaṁ
orvā
sufferingdukkhaṁ
exhaustednijjiṇṇaṁ,
this muchettakaṁ
orvā
sufferingdukkhaṁ
to be exhaustednijjīretabbaṁ,
when so muchettakamhi
orvā
sufferingdukkhe
exhaustednijjiṇṇe
allsabbaṁ
sufferingdukkhaṁ
exhaustednijjiṇṇaṁ
will bebhavissatīti,
notna
you knowjānātha—
here and nowdiṭṭheva
in the doctrinedhamme
of unwholesomeakusalānaṁ
qualitiesdhammānaṁ
abandoningpahānaṁ,
of wholesomekusalānaṁ
qualitiesdhammānaṁ
undertakingupasampadaṁ;
thusevaṁ
being sosante
of venerablesāyasmantānaṁ
of Jainsnigaṇṭhānaṁ
notna
it would be properkallamassa
to declareveyyākaraṇāya:
whatever“yaṁ
whateverkiñcāyaṁ
individual personpurisapuggalo
experiencespaṭisaṁvedeti
pleasuresukhaṁ
orvā
paindukkhaṁ
orvā
neither painful nor pleasantadukkhamasukhaṁ
orvā,
allsabbaṁ
thattaṁ
because of past deedspubbekatahetu.
thusIti
of oldpurāṇānaṁ
actionskammānaṁ
by austeritytapasā
by eliminationbyantībhāvā,
of newnavānaṁ
actionskammānaṁ
by non-doingakaraṇā,
in the futureāyatiṁ
no influxanavassavo;
in the futureāyatiṁ
from no influxanavassavā
ending of actionkammakkhayo;
from ending of actionkammakkhayā
ending of sufferingdukkhakkhayo;
from ending of sufferingdukkhakkhayā
ending of feelingvedanākkhayo;
from ending of feelingvedanākkhayā
allsabbaṁ
sufferingdukkhaṁ
exhaustednijjiṇṇaṁ
will bebhavissatī”ti.
ifSace
thenpana
youtumhe,
friendsāvuso
Jainsnigaṇṭhā,
you would knowjāneyyātha—
we existedahuvamheva
wemayaṁ
in the pastpubbe,
notna
we did not existnāhuvamhāti,
you would knowjāneyyātha—
we performedakaramheva
wemayaṁ
in the pastpubbe
evil actionpāpakammaṁ,
notna
we did not performnākaramhāti,
you would knowjāneyyātha—
suchevarūpaṁ
orvā
suchevarūpaṁ
orvā
evil actionpāpakammaṁ
we performedakaramhāti,
you would knowjāneyyātha—
so muchettakaṁ
orvā
sufferingdukkhaṁ
worn awaynijjiṇṇaṁ,
so muchettakaṁ
orvā
sufferingdukkhaṁ
to be worn awaynijjīretabbaṁ,
when so muchettakamhi
orvā
sufferingdukkhe
worn awaynijjiṇṇe
allsabbaṁ
sufferingdukkhaṁ
worn awaynijjiṇṇaṁ
will bebhavissatīti,
you would knowjāneyyātha—
in this very lifediṭṭheva
dhammadhamme
of unwholesomeakusalānaṁ
of dhammasdhammānaṁ
abandoningpahānaṁ,
of wholesomekusalānaṁ
of dhammasdhammānaṁ
attainmentupasampadaṁ;
thusevaṁ
being sosante
of the venerablesāyasmantānaṁ
of the Jainsnigaṇṭhānaṁ
it would be fittingkallamassa
for declaringveyyākaraṇāya:
whatever“yaṁ
anything thiskiñcāyaṁ
personpurisapuggalo
experiencespaṭisaṁvedeti
pleasuresukhaṁ
orvā
paindukkhaṁ
orvā
neither painful nor pleasantadukkhamasukhaṁ
orvā,
allsabbaṁ
thattaṁ
caused by past deedspubbekatahetu.
thusIti
of oldpurāṇānaṁ
of kammaskammānaṁ
by austeritytapasā
by annihilationbyantībhāvā,
of newnavānaṁ
of kammaskammānaṁ
by non-doingakaraṇā,
in the futureāyatiṁ
no influxanavassavo;
in the futureāyatiṁ
from no influxanavassavā
destruction of kammakammakkhayo;
from destruction of kammakammakkhayā
destruction of sufferingdukkhakkhayo;
from destruction of sufferingdukkhakkhayā
destruction of feelingvedanākkhayo;
from destruction of feelingvedanākkhayā
allsabbaṁ
sufferingdukkhaṁ
worn awaynijjiṇṇaṁ
will bebhavissatī”ti.
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