The Five and Three · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral
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happiness + sufferingsukhadukkhī
selfattā
andca
worldloko
andca
……
not + suffering·not + happinessadukkhamasukhī
selfattā
andca
worldloko
and,ca,
this + veryidameva
truthsaccaṁ
they think is falsemoghamaññanti,
for themtesaṁ
surelyvata
apart fromaññatreva
faithsaddhāya
apart fromaññatra
endorsementruciyā
apart fromaññatra
oral transmissionanussavā
apart fromaññatra
reasoned + thoughtākāraparivitakkā
apart fromaññatra
view + deliberation + acceptancediṭṭhinijjhānakkhantiyā
personal + indeedpaccattaṁyeva
knowledgeñāṇaṁ
will bebhavissati
pureparisuddhaṁ
bright + not + thispariyodātanti—netaṁ
caseṭhānaṁ
is foundvijjati.
personalPaccattaṁ
indeedkho
butpana,
monksbhikkhave,
in knowledgeñāṇe
not + beingasati
pureparisuddhe
brightpariyodāte
which + alsoyadapi
thosete
honorablebhonto
ascetic + brahminsamaṇabrāhmaṇā
theretattha
knowledge + portion + mere + indeedñāṇabhāgamattameva
they illuminatepariyodapenti
that + tootadapi
for themtesaṁ
for the honorablebhavataṁ
ascetic + brahminsamaṇabrāhmaṇānaṁ
is called graspingupādānamakkhāyati.
this is‘Tayidaṁ
conditionedsaṅkhataṁ
crudeoḷārikaṁ
there isatthi
indeedkho
butpana
of conditionssaṅkhārānaṁ
cessationnirodho
this is realatthetan’ti—
thusiti
having understoodviditvā
of ittassa
escape + seeingnissaraṇadassāvī
the Realized Onetathāgato
has gone beyond thattadupātivatto.
or experience both happiness and suffering, or experience neither happiness nor suffering. It’s simply not possible for them to have personal knowledge of this that is pure and bright, apart from faith, endorsement, oral transmission, reasoned train of thought, or acceptance of a view after deliberation. But in the absence of personal knowledge that is pure and bright, even the portion of knowledge they illuminate is said to be grasping on their part. ‘All that is conditioned and crude. But there is the cessation of conditions—that is real.’ Understanding this and seeing the escape from it, the Realized One has gone beyond all that.
hereIdha,
monksbhikkhave,
someekacco
asceticsamaṇo
orvā
brahminbrāhmaṇo
orvā
of theories about the first beginningpubbantānudiṭṭhīnañca
letting gopaṭinissaggā,
of theories about the final endaparantānudiṭṭhīnañca
letting gopaṭinissaggā,
completelysabbaso
sensuality·fetterskāmasaṁyojanānaṁ
not fixatinganadhiṭṭhānā,
the rapturepavivekaṁ
of seclusionpītiṁ
having enteredupasampajja
remainviharati:
this‘etaṁ
is peacefulsantaṁ
thisetaṁ
is sublimepaṇītaṁ
that isyadidaṁ
the rapturepavivekaṁ
of seclusionpītiṁ
having enteredupasampajja
I remainviharāmī’ti.
of thatTassa
thatsā
rapture of seclusionpavivekā
rapturepīti
ceasesnirujjhati.
of the rapture of seclusionPavivekāya
of rapturepītiyā
from cessationnirodhā
arisesuppajjati
sadnessdomanassaṁ,
of sadnessdomanassassa
from cessationnirodhā
arisesuppajjati
rapture of seclusionpavivekā
rapturepīti.
Now, some ascetics and brahmins, letting go of theories about the first beginning and the final end, not fixating on the fetters of sensuality, enter and remain in the rapture of seclusion: ‘This is peaceful, this is sublime, that is, entering and remaining in the rapture of seclusion.’ But that rapture of seclusion of theirs ceases. When the rapture of seclusion ceases, sadness arises; and when sadness ceases, the rapture of seclusion arises.
just asSeyyathāpi,
monksbhikkhave,
whichyaṁ
shadowchāyā
leavesjahati
thattaṁ
sunlightātapo
fillspharati,
whichyaṁ
sunlightātapo
leavesjahati
thattaṁ
shadowchāyā
fillspharati;
just soevameva
indeedkho,
monksbhikkhave,
of seclusionpavivekāya
of rapturepītiyā
from cessationnirodhā
arisesuppajjati
sadnessdomanassaṁ,
of sadnessdomanassassa
from cessationnirodhā
arisesuppajjati
of seclusionpavivekā
rapturepīti.
this as followsTayidaṁ,
monksbhikkhave,
the Realized Onetathāgato
understandsabhijānāti.
thisAyaṁ
indeedkho
goodbhavaṁ
asceticsamaṇo
orvā
brahminbrāhmaṇo
orvā
of theories about the first beginningpubbantānudiṭṭhīnañca
from letting gopaṭinissaggā,
of theories about the final endaparantānudiṭṭhīnañca
from letting gopaṭinissaggā,
completelysabbaso
of the fetters of sensualitykāmasaṁyojanānaṁ
from not fixatinganadhiṭṭhānā,
the rapturepavivekaṁ
of seclusionpītiṁ
having enteredupasampajja
remainsviharati:
this‘etaṁ
peacefulsantaṁ
thisetaṁ
sublimepaṇītaṁ
that isyadidaṁ
the rapturepavivekaṁ
of seclusionpītiṁ
having enteredupasampajja
I remainviharāmī’ti.
of himTassa
thatsā
of seclusionpavivekā
rapturepīti
ceasesnirujjhati.
of seclusionPavivekāya
of rapturepītiyā
from cessationnirodhā
arisesuppajjati
sadnessdomanassaṁ,
of sadnessdomanassassa
from cessationnirodhā
arisesuppajjati
of seclusionpavivekā
rapturepīti.
this as follows‘Tayidaṁ
conditionedsaṅkhataṁ
crudeoḷārikaṁ
there isatthi
indeedkho
butpana
of conditionssaṅkhārānaṁ
cessationnirodho
that is realatthetan’ti—
thusiti
having understoodviditvā
of himtassa
seeing the escapenissaraṇadassāvī
the Realized Onetathāgato
has gone beyond thattadupātivatto.
It’s like how the sunlight fills the space when the shadow leaves, or the shadow fills the space when the sunshine leaves. In the same way, when the rapture of seclusion ceases, sadness arises; and when sadness ceases, the rapture of seclusion arises. The Realized One understands this as follows. This good ascetic or brahmin, letting go of theories about the first beginning and the final end, not fixating on the fetters of sensuality, enters and remains in the rapture of seclusion: ‘This is peaceful, this is sublime, that is, entering and remaining in the rapture of seclusion.’ But that rapture of seclusion of theirs ceases. When the rapture of seclusion ceases, sadness arises; and when sadness ceases, the rapture of seclusion arises. ‘All that is conditioned and crude. But there is the cessation of conditions—that is real.’ Understanding this and seeing the escape from it, the Realized One has gone beyond all that.
hereIdha
nowpana,
O monksbhikkhave,
someekacco
asceticsamaṇo
orvā
brahminbrāhmaṇo
orvā
first beginning·theories·andpubbantānudiṭṭhīnañca
back·letting gopaṭinissaggā,
final end·theories·andaparantānudiṭṭhīnañca
back·letting gopaṭinissaggā,
completelysabbaso
sensuality·fetterskāmasaṁyojanānaṁ
not·fixatinganadhiṭṭhānā,
of seclusionpavivekāya
of rapturepītiyā
fully·going beyondsamatikkamā
without·fleshnirāmisaṁ
pleasuresukhaṁ
enteringupasampajja
they remainviharati:
this‘etaṁ
peacefulsantaṁ
thisetaṁ
sublimepaṇītaṁ
that isyadidaṁ
without·fleshnirāmisaṁ
pleasuresukhaṁ
enteringupasampajja
I remainviharāmī’ti.
of that oneTassa
thattaṁ
without·fleshnirāmisaṁ
pleasuresukhaṁ
out·ceasenirujjhati.
without·fleshNirāmisassa
of pleasuresukhassa
from cessationnirodhā
arisesuppajjati
of seclusionpavivekā
rapturepīti,
of seclusionpavivekāya
of rapturepītiyā
from cessationnirodhā
arisesuppajjati
without·fleshnirāmisaṁ
pleasuresukhaṁ.
Now, some ascetics and brahmins, letting go of theories about the first beginning and the final end, not fixating on the fetters of sensuality, going beyond the rapture of seclusion, enter and remain in pleasure not of the flesh. ‘This is peaceful, this is sublime, that is, entering and remaining in pleasure not of the flesh.’ But that pleasure not of the flesh of theirs ceases. When pleasure not of the flesh ceases, the rapture of seclusion arises; and when the rapture of seclusion ceases, pleasure not of the flesh arises.
just asSeyyathāpi,
monksbhikkhave,
whichyaṁ
shadowchāyā
leavesjahati
thattaṁ
sunlightātapo
fillspharati,
whichyaṁ
sunlightātapo
leavesjahati
thattaṁ
shadowchāyā
fillspharati;
just soevameva
indeedkho,
monksbhikkhave,
without·fleshnirāmisassa
pleasuresukhassa
from cessationnirodhā
arisesuppajjati
of seclusionpavivekā
rapturepīti,
of seclusionpavivekāya
rapturepītiyā
from cessationnirodhā
arisesuppajjati
without·fleshnirāmisaṁ
pleasuresukhaṁ.
thisTayidaṁ,
monksbhikkhave,
thus·gonetathāgato
higher·knowabhijānāti.
thisAyaṁ
indeedkho
goodbhavaṁ
asceticsamaṇo
orvā
brahminbrāhmaṇo
orvā
of theories about the first beginningpubbantānudiṭṭhīnañca
back·let-gopaṭinissaggā,
of theories about the final endaparantānudiṭṭhīnañca
back·let-gopaṭinissaggā,
utterlysabbaso
sensuality·fetterskāmasaṁyojanānaṁ
not·fixateanadhiṭṭhānā,
of seclusionpavivekāya
rapturepītiyā
together·go-beyondsamatikkamā,
without·fleshnirāmisaṁ
pleasuresukhaṁ
near·enterupasampajja
remainsviharati:
this‘etaṁ
peacefulsantaṁ
thisetaṁ
sublimepaṇītaṁ
that isyadidaṁ
without·fleshnirāmisaṁ
pleasuresukhaṁ
near·enterupasampajja
I remainviharāmī’ti.
of theirsTassa
thattaṁ
without·fleshnirāmisaṁ
pleasuresukhaṁ
ceasesnirujjhati.
without·fleshNirāmisassa
pleasuresukhassa
from cessationnirodhā
arisesuppajjati
of seclusionpavivekā
rapturepīti,
of seclusionpavivekāya
rapturepītiyā
from cessationnirodhā
arisesuppajjati
without·fleshnirāmisaṁ
pleasuresukhaṁ.
this‘Tayidaṁ
conditionedsaṅkhataṁ
crudeoḷārikaṁ
there isatthi
indeedkho
butpana
of conditionssaṅkhārānaṁ
cessationnirodho
that is realatthetan’ti—
thusiti
understandingviditvā
of ittassa
escape·seeingnissaraṇadassāvī
thus·gonetathāgato
that + gone-beyondtadupātivatto.
It’s like how the sunlight fills the space when the shadow leaves, or the shadow fills the space when the sunshine leaves. … The Realized One understands this as follows. This good ascetic or brahmin, letting go of theories about the first beginning and the final end, not fixating on the fetters of sensuality, going beyond the rapture of seclusion, enters and remains in pleasure not of the flesh. ‘This is peaceful, this is sublime, that is, entering and remaining in pleasure not of the flesh.’ But that pleasure not of the flesh of theirs ceases. When pleasure not of the flesh ceases, the rapture of seclusion arises; and when the rapture of seclusion ceases, pleasure not of the flesh arises. ‘All that is conditioned and crude. But there is the cessation of conditions—that is real.’ Understanding this and seeing the escape from it, the Realized One has gone beyond all that.
hereIdha
nowpana,
monksbhikkhave,
someekacco
asceticsamaṇo
orvā
brahminbrāhmaṇo
orvā
of theories about the first beginning andpubbantānudiṭṭhīnañca
letting gopaṭinissaggā,
of theories about the final end andaparantānudiṭṭhīnañca
letting gopaṭinissaggā,
utterlysabbaso
of the fetters of sensualitykāmasaṁyojanānaṁ
not fixatinganadhiṭṭhānā,
of seclusionpavivekāya
of rapturepītiyā
going beyondsamatikkamā,
not of the fleshnirāmisassa
of pleasuresukhassa
going beyondsamatikkamā,
neutraladukkhamasukhaṁ
feelingvedanaṁ
enteringupasampajja
remainviharati:
this‘etaṁ
peacefulsantaṁ
thisetaṁ
sublimepaṇītaṁ
that isyadidaṁ
neutraladukkhamasukhaṁ
feelingvedanaṁ
enteringupasampajja
remainviharāmī’ti.
of thatTassa
thatsā
neutraladukkhamasukhā
feelingvedanā
ceasesnirujjhati.
of neutralAdukkhamasukhāya
feelingvedanāya
from the cessationnirodhā
arisesuppajjati
not of the fleshnirāmisaṁ
pleasuresukhaṁ,
not of the fleshnirāmisassa
of pleasuresukhassa
from the cessationnirodhā
arisesuppajjati
neutraladukkhamasukhā
feelingvedanā.
Now, some ascetics and brahmins, letting go of theories about the first beginning and the final end, not fixating on the fetters of sensuality, going beyond the rapture of seclusion and pleasure not of the flesh, enter and remain in neutral feeling. ‘This is peaceful, this is sublime, that is, entering and remaining in neutral feeling.’ Then that neutral feeling ceases. When neutral feeling ceases, pleasure not of the flesh arises; and when pleasure not of the flesh ceases, neutral feeling arises.
just asSeyyathāpi,
monksbhikkhave,
that whichyaṁ
shadowchāyā
leavesjahati
thattaṁ
sunlightātapo
fillspharati,
that whichyaṁ
sunlightātapo
leavesjahati
thattaṁ
shadowchāyā
fillspharati;
just soevameva
indeedkho,
monksbhikkhave,
of neutral feelingadukkhamasukhāya
of feelingvedanāya
from cessationnirodhā
arisesuppajjati
not of the fleshnirāmisaṁ
pleasuresukhaṁ,
of pleasure not of the fleshnirāmisassa
of pleasuresukhassa
from cessationnirodhā
arisesuppajjati
neutraladukkhamasukhā
feelingvedanā.
this as followsTayidaṁ,
monksbhikkhave,
the Realized Onetathāgato
understandsabhijānāti.
thisAyaṁ
indeedkho
goodbhavaṁ
asceticsamaṇo
orvā
brahminbrāhmaṇo
orvā
of theories about the first beginningpubbantānudiṭṭhīnañca
from letting gopaṭinissaggā,
of theories about the final endaparantānudiṭṭhīnañca
from letting gopaṭinissaggā,
completelysabbaso
of fetters of sensualitykāmasaṁyojanānaṁ
from not fixatinganadhiṭṭhānā,
of seclusionpavivekāya
of rapturepītiyā
from going beyondsamatikkamā,
of pleasure not of the fleshnirāmisassa
of pleasuresukhassa
from going beyondsamatikkamā,
neutraladukkhamasukhaṁ
feelingvedanaṁ
having enteredupasampajja
he remainsviharati:
this‘etaṁ
peacefulsantaṁ
thisetaṁ
sublimepaṇītaṁ
that isyadidaṁ
neutraladukkhamasukhaṁ
feelingvedanaṁ
having enteredupasampajja
I remainviharāmī’ti.
for himTassa
thatsā
neutraladukkhamasukhā
feelingvedanā
ceasesnirujjhati.
of neutral feelingAdukkhamasukhāya
of feelingvedanāya
from cessationnirodhā
arisesuppajjati
not of the fleshnirāmisaṁ
pleasuresukhaṁ,
of pleasure not of the fleshnirāmisassa
of pleasuresukhassa
from cessationnirodhā
arisesuppajjati
neutraladukkhamasukhā
feelingvedanā.
this as follows‘Tayidaṁ
conditionedsaṅkhataṁ
crudeoḷārikaṁ
there isatthi
indeedkho
butpana
of conditionssaṅkhārānaṁ
cessationnirodho
that is realatthetan’ti—
thusiti
having understoodviditvā
of ittassa
seeing the escapenissaraṇadassāvī
the Realized Onetathāgato
has gone beyond thattadupātivatto.
It’s like how the sunlight fills the space when the shadow leaves, or the shadow fills the space when the sunshine leaves. … The Realized One understands this as follows. This good ascetic or brahmin, letting go of theories about the first beginning and the final end, not fixating on the fetters of sensuality, going beyond the rapture of seclusion and pleasure not of the flesh, enters and remains in neutral feeling. ‘This is peaceful, this is sublime, that is, entering and remaining in neutral feeling.’ Then that neutral feeling ceases. When neutral feeling ceases, pleasure not of the flesh arises; and when pleasure not of the flesh ceases, neutral feeling arises. ‘All that is conditioned and crude. But there is the cessation of conditions—that is real.’ Understanding this and seeing the escape from it, the Realized One has gone beyond all that.
hereIdha
nowpana,
monksbhikkhave,
someoneekacco
asceticsamaṇo
orvā
brahminbrāhmaṇo
orvā
of theories about the first beginning andpubbantānudiṭṭhīnañca
letting gopaṭinissaggā,
of theories about the final end andaparantānudiṭṭhīnañca
letting gopaṭinissaggā,
altogethersabbaso
sensuality·fetterkāmasaṁyojanānaṁ
not fixatinganadhiṭṭhānā,
of seclusionpavivekāya
of rapturepītiyā
going beyondsamatikkamā,
not·fleshnirāmisassa
of pleasuresukhassa
going beyondsamatikkamā,
of neutraladukkhamasukhāya
feelingvedanāya
going beyondsamatikkamā:
I am at peace‘santohamasmi,
I am quenchednibbutohamasmi,
I am free of graspinganupādānohamasmī’ti
regardssamanupassati.
Now, some ascetics and brahmins, letting go of theories about the first beginning and the final end, not fixating on the fetters of sensuality, go beyond the rapture of seclusion, pleasure not of the flesh, and neutral feeling. They regard themselves like this: ‘I am at peace; I am quenched; I am free of grasping.’
that + indeed·thisTayidaṁ,
monksbhikkhave,
thus·gonetathāgato
fully·knowabhijānāti.
thisAyaṁ
indeedkho
goodbhavaṁ
asceticsamaṇo
orvā
brahminbrāhmaṇo
orvā
first·end·theory·andpubbantānudiṭṭhīnañca
back·relinquishingpaṭinissaggā,
final·end·theory·andaparantānudiṭṭhīnañca
back·relinquishingpaṭinissaggā,
utterlysabbaso
sensuality·fetterkāmasaṁyojanānaṁ
not·fixatinganadhiṭṭhānā,
of seclusionpavivekāya
of the rapturepītiyā
completely·beyond·goingsamatikkamā,
without·fleshnirāmisassa
of pleasuresukhassa
completely·beyond·goingsamatikkamā,
not·painful·and·not pleasantadukkhamasukhāya
of feelingvedanāya
completely·beyond·goingsamatikkamā:
at peace·indeed·I am‘santohamasmi,
quenched·indeed·I amnibbutohamasmi,
free of grasping·indeed·I am·quotation markeranupādānohamasmī’ti
completely·regardssamanupassati;
clearlyaddhā
this·venerableayamāyasmā
extinguishment·conducive + justnibbānasappāyaṁyeva
practicepaṭipadaṁ
about·speaksabhivadati.
neverthelessAtha
andca
but + thispanāyaṁ
goodbhavaṁ
asceticsamaṇo
orvā
brahminbrāhmaṇo
orvā
first·end·theorypubbantānudiṭṭhiṁ
orvā
upon·graspingupādiyamāno
upon·graspsupādiyati,
final·end·theoryaparantānudiṭṭhiṁ
orvā
upon·graspingupādiyamāno
upon·graspsupādiyati,
sensuality·fetterkāmasaṁyojanaṁ
orvā
upon·graspingupādiyamāno
upon·graspsupādiyati,
the rapturepavivekaṁ
orvā
of seclusionpītiṁ
upon·graspingupādiyamāno
upon·graspsupādiyati,
without·fleshnirāmisaṁ
orvā
pleasuresukhaṁ
upon·graspingupādiyamāno
upon·graspsupādiyati,
not·painful·and·not pleasantadukkhamasukhaṁ
orvā
feelingvedanaṁ
upon·graspingupādiyamāno
upon·graspsupādiyati.
which + andYañca
indeedkho
this·venerableayamāyasmā:
at peace·indeed·I am‘santohamasmi,
quenched·indeed·I amnibbutohamasmi,
free of grasping·indeed·I am·quotation markeranupādānohamasmī’ti
completely·regardssamanupassati
that + tootadapi
of thisimassa
goodbhoto
asceticsamaṇassa
brahminbrāhmaṇassa
grasping + is saidupādānamakkhāyati.
that + indeed·this‘Tayidaṁ
conditionedsaṅkhataṁ
coarseoḷārikaṁ
there isatthi
indeedkho
butpana
of conditionssaṅkhārānaṁ
cessationnirodho
that is realatthetan’ti—
thusiti
understandingviditvā
of ittassa
escape·seeingnissaraṇadassāvī
thus·gonetathāgato
that + gone beyondtadupātivatto.
The Realized One understands this as follows. This good ascetic or brahmin, letting go of theories about the first beginning and the final end, not fixating on the fetters of sensuality, goes beyond the rapture of seclusion, pleasure not of the flesh, and neutral feeling. They regard themselves like this: ‘I am at peace; I am quenched; I am free of grasping.’ Clearly this venerable speaks of a practice that’s conducive to extinguishment. Nevertheless, they still grasp at theories about the first beginning or the final end, or the fetters of sensuality, or the rapture of seclusion, or pleasure not of the flesh, or neutral feeling. And when they regard themselves like this: ‘I am at peace; I am quenched; I am free of grasping,’ that’s also said to be grasping on their part. ‘All that is conditioned and crude. But there is the cessation of conditions—that is real.’ Understanding this and seeing the escape from it, the Realized One has gone beyond all that.
thisIdaṁ
indeedkho
butpana,
monksbhikkhave,
thus·gonetathāgatena
not·higheranuttaraṁ
peace·sublime·statesantivarapadaṁ
fully·completely·awakenedabhisambuddhaṁ
that isyadidaṁ—
of the sixchannaṁ
of the fields of contactphassāyatanānaṁ
origin + andsamudayañca
disappearance + andatthaṅgamañca
gratification + andassādañca
drawback + andādīnavañca
escape + andnissaraṇañca
as·becomeyathābhūtaṁ
having understoodviditvā
liberation by not graspinganupādāvimokkho”ti.
this·saidIdamavoca
the Blessed Onebhagavā.
satisfiedAttamanā
thosete
mendicantsbhikkhū
of the Blessed Onebhagavato
speechbhāsitaṁ
approvedabhinandunti.
five·three·discoursePañcattayasuttaṁ
finishedniṭṭhitaṁ
seconddutiyaṁ.
But the Realized One has awakened to the supreme state of sublime peace, that is, liberation by not grasping after truly understanding the six fields of contact’s origin, disappearance, gratification, drawback, and escape.” That is what the Buddha said. Satisfied, the mendicants approved what the Buddha said.
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