The Five and Three · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral
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Seyyathāpi
nāma
vāṇijassa
vāṇijjāya
gacchato
evaṁ
hoti:
‘ito
me
idaṁ
bhavissati,
iminā
idaṁ
lacchāmī’ti;
evamevime
bhonto
samaṇabrāhmaṇā
vāṇijūpamā
maññe
paṭibhanti:
‘iti
pecca
bhavissāma,
iti
pecca
bhavissāmā’ti.
Tayidaṁ,
bhikkhave,
tathāgato
abhijānāti.
Ye
kho
te
bhonto
samaṇabrāhmaṇā
sato
sattassa
ucchedaṁ
vināsaṁ
vibhavaṁ
paññapenti
te
sakkāyabhayā
sakkāyaparijegucchā
sakkāyaññeva
anuparidhāvanti
anuparivattanti.
Seyyathāpi
nāma
sā
gaddulabaddho
daḷhe
thambhe
vā
khile
vā
upanibaddho,
tameva
thambhaṁ
vā
khilaṁ
vā
anuparidhāvati
anuparivattati;
evamevime
bhonto
samaṇabrāhmaṇā
sakkāyabhayā
sakkāyaparijegucchā
sakkāyaññeva
anuparidhāvanti
anuparivattanti.
‘Tayidaṁ
saṅkhataṁ
oḷārikaṁ
atthi
kho
pana
saṅkhārānaṁ
nirodho
atthetan’ti—
iti
viditvā
tassa
nissaraṇadassāvī
tathāgato
tadupātivatto.
Suppose a trader was going to market, thinking: “With this, that shall be mine! This way, I shall get that!” In the same way, those ascetics and brahmins seem to be like traders when they say: “After death we shall be like this! After death we shall be like that!”’ The Realized One understands this as follows. The ascetics and brahmins who assert the annihilation, eradication, and nonexistence of an existing being; from fear and disgust with substantial reality, they just keep running and circling around substantial reality. Suppose a mutt on a leash was tethered to a strong post or pillar. It would just keeping running and circling around that post or pillar. In the same way, those ascetics and brahmins, from fear and disgust with substantial reality, just keep running and circling around substantial reality. ‘All that is conditioned and crude. But there is the cessation of conditions—that is real.’ Understanding this and seeing the escape from it, the Realized One has gone beyond all that.
Ye hi keci, bhikkhave, samaṇā vā brāhmaṇā vā aparantakappikā aparantānudiṭṭhino aparantaṁ ārabbha anekavihitāni adhivuttipadāni abhivadanti, sabbe te imāneva pañcāyatanāni abhivadanti etesaṁ vā aññataraṁ.
Whatever ascetics and brahmins speculate and theorize about the final end, and propose various hypotheses concerning the final end, all of them propose one or other of these five topics.
Santi,
bhikkhave,
eke
samaṇabrāhmaṇā
pubbantakappikā
pubbantānudiṭṭhino
pubbantaṁ
ārabbha
anekavihitāni
adhivuttipadāni
abhivadanti.
‘Sassato
attā
ca
loko
ca,
idameva
saccaṁ
moghamaññan’ti—
ittheke
abhivadanti,
‘asassato
attā
ca
loko
ca,
idameva
saccaṁ
moghamaññan’ti—
ittheke
abhivadanti,
‘sassato
ca
asassato
ca
attā
ca
loko
ca,
idameva
saccaṁ
moghamaññan’ti—
ittheke
abhivadanti,
‘nevasassato
nāsassato
attā
ca
loko
ca,
idameva
saccaṁ
moghamaññan’ti—
ittheke
abhivadanti,
‘antavā
attā
ca
loko
ca,
idameva
saccaṁ
moghamaññan’ti—
ittheke
abhivadanti,
‘anantavā
attā
ca
loko
ca,
idameva
saccaṁ
moghamaññan’ti—
ittheke
abhivadanti,
‘antavā
ca
anantavā
ca
attā
ca
loko
ca,
idameva
saccaṁ
moghamaññan’ti—
ittheke
abhivadanti,
‘nevantavā
nānantavā
attā
ca
loko
ca,
idameva
saccaṁ
moghamaññan’ti—
There are some ascetics and brahmins who speculate and theorize about the first beginning, and propose various hypotheses concerning the first beginning. They propose the following, each insisting that theirs is the only truth and that everything else is wrong. ‘The self and the cosmos are eternal.’ ‘The self and the cosmos are not eternal.’ ‘The self and the cosmos are both eternal and not eternal.’ ‘The self and the cosmos are neither eternal nor not eternal.’ ‘The self and the cosmos are finite.’ ‘The self and the cosmos are infinite.’ ‘The self and the cosmos are both finite and infinite.’ ‘The self and the cosmos are neither finite nor infinite.’
ittheke
abhivadanti,
‘ekattasaññī
attā
ca
loko
ca,
idameva
saccaṁ
moghamaññan’ti—
ittheke
abhivadanti,
‘nānattasaññī
attā
ca
loko
ca,
idameva
saccaṁ
moghamaññan’ti—
ittheke
abhivadanti,
‘parittasaññī
attā
ca
loko
ca,
idameva
saccaṁ
moghamaññan’ti—
ittheke
abhivadanti,
‘appamāṇasaññī
attā
ca
loko
ca,
idameva
saccaṁ
moghamaññan’ti—
ittheke
abhivadanti,
‘ekantasukhī
attā
ca
loko
ca,
idameva
saccaṁ
moghamaññan’ti—
ittheke
abhivadanti,
‘ekantadukkhī
attā
ca
loko
ca,
idameva
saccaṁ
moghamaññan’ti—
ittheke
abhivadanti,
‘sukhadukkhī
attā
ca
loko
ca,
idameva
saccaṁ
moghamaññan’ti—
ittheke
abhivadanti,
‘adukkhamasukhī
attā
ca
loko
ca,
idameva
saccaṁ
moghamaññan’ti—
ittheke
abhivadanti.
‘The self and the cosmos are unified in perception.’ ‘The self and the cosmos are diverse in perception.’ ‘The self and the cosmos have limited perception.’ ‘The self and the cosmos have limitless perception.’ ‘The self and the cosmos experience nothing but happiness.’ ‘The self and the cosmos experience absolute suffering.’ ‘The self and the cosmos experience both happiness and suffering.’ ‘The self and the cosmos experience neither happiness nor suffering.’
Tatra,
bhikkhave,
ye
te
samaṇabrāhmaṇā
evaṁvādino
evaṁdiṭṭhino:
‘sassato
attā
ca
loko
ca,
idameva
saccaṁ
moghamaññan’ti,
tesaṁ
vata
aññatreva
saddhāya
aññatra
ruciyā
aññatra
anussavā
aññatra
ākāraparivitakkā
aññatra
diṭṭhinijjhānakkhantiyā
paccattaṁyeva
ñāṇaṁ
bhavissati
parisuddhaṁ
pariyodātanti—netaṁ
ṭhānaṁ
vijjati.
Paccattaṁ
kho
pana,
bhikkhave,
ñāṇe
asati
parisuddhe
pariyodāte
yadapi
te
bhonto
samaṇabrāhmaṇā
tattha
ñāṇabhāgamattameva
pariyodapenti
tadapi
tesaṁ
bhavataṁ
samaṇabrāhmaṇānaṁ
upādānamakkhāyati.
‘Tayidaṁ
saṅkhataṁ
oḷārikaṁ
atthi
kho
pana
saṅkhārānaṁ
nirodho
atthetan’ti—
iti
viditvā
tassa
nissaraṇadassāvī
tathāgato
tadupātivatto.
Now, consider the ascetics and brahmins whose view is as follows. ‘The self and the cosmos are eternal. This is the only truth, anything else is futile.’ It’s simply not possible for them to have personal knowledge of this that is pure and bright, apart from faith, endorsement, oral transmission, reasoned train of thought, or acceptance of a view after deliberation. But in the absence of personal knowledge that is pure and bright, even the portion of knowledge they illuminate is said to be grasping on their part. ‘All that is conditioned and crude. But there is the cessation of conditions—that is real.’ Understanding this and seeing the escape from it, the Realized One has gone beyond all that.
Tatra,
bhikkhave,
ye
te
samaṇabrāhmaṇā
evaṁvādino
evaṁdiṭṭhino:
‘asassato
attā
ca
loko
ca,
idameva
saccaṁ
moghamaññan’ti
…pe…
sassato
ca
asassato
ca
attā
ca
loko
ca
…
nevasassato
nāsassato
attā
ca
loko
ca
…
antavā
attā
ca
loko
ca
…
anantavā
attā
ca
loko
ca
…
antavā
ca
anantavā
ca
attā
ca
loko
ca
…
nevantavā
nānantavā
attā
ca
loko
ca
…
ekattasaññī
attā
ca
loko
ca
…
nānattasaññī
attā
ca
loko
ca
…
parittasaññī
attā
ca
loko
ca
…
appamāṇasaññī
attā
ca
loko
ca
…
ekantasukhī
attā
ca
loko
ca
…
ekantadukkhī
attā
ca
loko
ca
…
Now, consider the ascetics and brahmins whose view is as follows. The self and the cosmos are not eternal, or both eternal and not eternal, or neither eternal nor not-eternal, or finite, or infinite, or both finite and infinite, or neither finite nor infinite, or of unified perception, or of diverse perception, or of limited perception, or of limitless perception, or experience nothing but happiness, or experience absolute suffering,
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