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Majjhima Nikāya 103

Kintisutta

Is This What You Think Of Me? · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral

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well graspedSuggahitaṁ as well graspedsuggahitato having remembereddhāretvā badly graspedduggahitaṁ as badly graspedduggahitato having remembereddhāretvā whichyo teachingdhammo whichyo trainingvinayo thatso should be spokenbhāsitabbo.

thereTatra ifce of youtumhākaṁ you might think thusevamassa:
of these‘imesaṁ indeedkho of venerablesāyasmantānaṁ in meaningatthato andceva agreessameti in phrasingbyañjanato andca agreessametī’ti, theretattha whicheveryaṁ mendicantbhikkhuṁ most amenablesuvacataraṁ you might thinkmaññeyyātha heso having approachedupasaṅkamitvā you should say thusevamassa should be spoken tovacanīyo:
of venerables‘āyasmantānaṁ indeedkho in meaningatthato andceva agreessameti, in phrasingbyañjanato andca agreessameti.
but the venerables should know thisTadamināpetaṁ venerablesāyasmanto you should knowjānātha—
howyathā in meaningatthato andceva agreessameti in phrasingbyañjanato andca agreessameti.
may the venerables notMāyasmanto into a disputevivādaṁ getāpajjitthā’ti.
then of the othersAthāparesaṁ siding with one partyekatopakkhikānaṁ of mendicantsbhikkhūnaṁ whicheveryaṁ mendicantbhikkhuṁ most amenablesuvacataraṁ you might thinkmaññeyyātha heso having approachedupasaṅkamitvā you should say thusevamassa should be spoken tovacanīyo:
of venerables‘āyasmantānaṁ indeedkho in meaningatthato andceva agreessameti in phrasingbyañjanato andca agreessameti.
but the venerables should know thisTadamināpetaṁ venerablesāyasmanto you should knowjānātha—
howyathā in meaningatthato andceva agreessameti in phrasingbyañjanato andca agreessameti.
may the venerables notMāyasmanto into a disputevivādaṁ getāpajjitthā’ti.
thusIti correctly memorizedsuggahitaṁ as correctly memorizedsuggahitato should be remembereddhāretabbaṁ.
correctly memorizedSuggahitaṁ as correctly memorizedsuggahitato having remembereddhāretvā whichyo teachingdhammo whichyo trainingvinayo thatso should be spokenbhāsitabbo.

and for themTesañca for youvo, monksbhikkhave, harmonioussamaggānaṁ appreciating each othersammodamānānaṁ without disputingavivadamānānaṁ trainingsikkhataṁ there might besiyā of a certain oneaññatarassa of a mendicantbhikkhuno an offenseāpatti there might besiyā a transgressionvītikkamo,

theretatra, monksbhikkhave, notna in accusationcodanāya one should hurrytaritabbaṁ. individualPuggalo should be examinedupaparikkhitabbo:
quotation marker‘iti for me andmayhañca non-harmingavihesā will bebhavissati for the otherparassa andca for the individualpuggalassa non-injuryanupaghāto, otherparo forhi individualpuggalo not irritableakkodhano not acrimoniousanupanāhī not holding fast to viewsadaḷhadiṭṭhī letting go easilysuppaṭinissaggī, I am ablesakkomi and Icāhaṁ thisetaṁ individualpuggalaṁ from the unskillfulakusalā having drawn awayvuṭṭhāpetvā in the skillfulkusale to establishpatiṭṭhāpetun’ti.
ifSace, monksbhikkhave, if it is thusevamassa, appropriatekallaṁ for speakingvacanāya.

ifSace butpana, monksbhikkhave, it would be thusevamassa:
my‘mayhaṁ indeedkho non-troubleavihesā will bebhavissati of anotherparassa andca of the individualpuggalassa hurtupaghāto, otherparo forhi individualpuggalo irritablekodhano acrimoniousupanāhī not holding fast to viewsadaḷhadiṭṭhī letting go easilysuppaṭinissaggī, I am ablesakkomi and Icāhaṁ thisetaṁ individualpuggalaṁ from the unskillfulakusalā having drawn awayvuṭṭhāpetvā in the skillfulkusale to establishpatiṭṭhāpetuṁ.
a minor matterAppamattakaṁ indeedkho but thispanetaṁ namelyyadidaṁ—parassa of the individualpuggalassa hurtupaghāto.
thenAtha indeedkho this veryetadeva more importantbahutaraṁ—
that Isvāhaṁ I am ablesakkomi thisetaṁ individualpuggalaṁ from the unskillfulakusalā having drawn awayvuṭṭhāpetvā in the skillfulkusale to establishpatiṭṭhāpetun’ti.
ifSace, monksbhikkhave, it would be thusevamassa, appropriatekallaṁ to speakvacanāya.

ifSace thenpana, monksbhikkhave, it would be thusevamassa:
my‘mayhaṁ indeedkho troublevihesā will bebhavissati of anotherparassa andca of the personpuggalassa no harmanupaghāto. the otherParo forhi personpuggalo not irritableakkodhano not acrimoniousanupanāhī holding firm viewsdaḷhadiṭṭhī refusing to let goduppaṭinissaggī, I am ablesakkomi and Icāhaṁ thisetaṁ personpuggalaṁ from the unskillfulakusalā having drawn awayvuṭṭhāpetvā in the skillfulkusale to establishpatiṭṭhāpetuṁ.
a minor matterAppamattakaṁ indeedkho but thispanetaṁ that is to say—myyadidaṁ—mayhaṁ troublevihesā.
butAtha indeedkho this veryetadeva more importantbahutaraṁ—
that Isvāhaṁ I am ablesakkomi thisetaṁ personpuggalaṁ from the unskillfulakusalā having drawn awayvuṭṭhāpetvā in the skillfulkusale to establishpatiṭṭhāpetun’ti.
ifSace, monksbhikkhave, it would be thusevamassa, appropriatekallaṁ for speakingvacanāya.

ifSace thenpana, monks,bhikkhave, it would be thus:evamassa:
and for me‘mayhañca indeedkho troublevihesā will bebhavissati of anotherparassa andca of the individualpuggalassa hurt.upaghāto. the otherParo forhi individualpuggalo irritablekodhano acrimoniousupanāhī holding fast to viewsdaḷhadiṭṭhī refusing to let go,duppaṭinissaggī, I am ablesakkomi and Icāhaṁ thisetaṁ individualpuggalaṁ from the unskillfulakusalā having drawn awayvuṭṭhāpetvā in the skillfulkusale to establish.patiṭṭhāpetuṁ.
a minorAppamattakaṁ indeedkho but thispanetaṁ that is—and for meyadidaṁ—mayhañca troublevihesā will bebhavissati of anotherparassa andca of the individualpuggalassa hurt.upaghāto.
butAtha indeedkho this veryetadeva more important—bahutaraṁ—
that Isvāhaṁ am ablesakkomi thisetaṁ individualpuggalaṁ from the unskillfulakusalā having drawn awayvuṭṭhāpetvā in the skillfulkusale to establish.'patiṭṭhāpetun’ti.
if,Sace, monks,bhikkhave, it is thus,evamassa, appropriatekallaṁ to speak.vacanāya.

ifSace thenpana, monksbhikkhave, it might be thusevamassa:
for me indeed‘mayhañca indeedkho troublevihesā will bebhavissati of the otherparassa andca of the individualpuggalassa harmupaghāto. the otherParo forhi individualpuggalo irritablekodhano acrimoniousupanāhī holding fast to viewsdaḷhadiṭṭhī refusing to let goduppaṭinissaggī, notna and Icāhaṁ I am ablesakkomi thisetaṁ individualpuggalaṁ from the unskillfulakusalā having drawn awayvuṭṭhāpetvā in the skillfulkusale to establishpatiṭṭhāpetun’ti.
regarding suchEvarūpe, monksbhikkhave, individualpuggale equanimityupekkhā should not be underestimatednātimaññitabbā.

and for themTesañca for youvo, monksbhikkhave, harmonioussamaggānaṁ appreciatingsammodamānānaṁ not quarrelingavivadamānānaṁ trainingsikkhataṁ with each otheraññamaññassa verbal contentionvacīsaṁhāro might ariseuppajjeyya contempt for viewsdiṭṭhipaḷāso of mindcetaso resentmentāghāto displeasureappaccayo exasperationanabhiraddhi.
thereTattha of one sideekatopakkhikānaṁ of monksbhikkhūnaṁ whoeveryaṁ monkbhikkhuṁ more amenablesuvacataraṁ you might thinkmaññeyyātha heso having approachedupasaṅkamitvā to him thusevamassa should be saidvacanīyo:
which‘yaṁ for usno, reverendāvuso, of usamhākaṁ harmonioussamaggānaṁ appreciatingsammodamānānaṁ not quarrelingavivadamānānaṁ trainingsikkhataṁ with each otheraññamaññassa verbal contentionvacīsaṁhāro arisenuppanno contempt for viewsdiṭṭhipaḷāso of mindcetaso resentmentāghāto displeasureappaccayo exasperationanabhiraddhi, thattaṁ knowingjānamāno asceticsamaṇo would criticizegaraheyyā’ti.
rightlySammā answeringbyākaramāno, monksbhikkhave, a monkbhikkhu thusevaṁ should answerbyākareyya:
which‘yaṁ for usno, reverendāvuso, of usamhākaṁ harmonioussamaggānaṁ appreciatingsammodamānānaṁ not quarrelingavivadamānānaṁ trainingsikkhataṁ with each otheraññamaññassa verbal contentionvacīsaṁhāro arisenuppanno contempt for viewsdiṭṭhipaḷāso of mindcetaso resentmentāghāto displeasureappaccayo exasperationanabhiraddhi, thattaṁ knowingjānamāno asceticsamaṇo would criticizegaraheyyāti.
thisEtaṁ but, reverendpanāvuso, qualitydhammaṁ not having abandonedappahāya extinguishmentnibbānaṁ could realizesacchikareyyā’ti.
rightlySammā answeringbyākaramāno, monksbhikkhave, a monkbhikkhu thusevaṁ should answerbyākareyya:
this‘etaṁ, reverendāvuso, qualitydhammaṁ not having abandonedappahāya notna extinguishmentnibbānaṁ could realizesacchikareyyā’ti.

then of the othersAthāparesaṁ of those siding with one partyekatopakkhikānaṁ of the monksbhikkhūnaṁ whicheveryaṁ monkbhikkhuṁ most amenablesuvacataraṁ you all would thinkmaññeyyātha, heso having approachedupasaṅkamitvā to him thusevamassa to be saidvacanīyo:
which‘yaṁ for usno, reverendāvuso, of usamhākaṁ of those unitedsamaggānaṁ of those on friendly termssammodamānānaṁ of those not disputingavivadamānānaṁ of those trainingsikkhataṁ for each otheraññamaññassa verbal disputevacīsaṁhāro arisenuppanno view-rigiditydiṭṭhipaḷāso of mindcetaso angerāghāto discontentappaccayo displeasureanabhiraddhi, thattaṁ knowingjānamāno the Asceticsamaṇo would criticizegaraheyyā’ti.
rightlySammā answeringbyākaramāno, monksbhikkhave, a monkbhikkhu thusevaṁ would answerbyākareyya:
which‘yaṁ for usno, reverendāvuso, of usamhākaṁ of those unitedsamaggānaṁ of those on friendly termssammodamānānaṁ of those not disputingavivadamānānaṁ of those trainingsikkhataṁ for each otheraññamaññassa verbal disputevacīsaṁhāro arisenuppanno view-rigiditydiṭṭhipaḷāso of mindcetaso angerāghāto discontentappaccayo displeasureanabhiraddhi thattaṁ knowingjānamāno the Asceticsamaṇo would criticizegaraheyyāti.
but thisEtaṁ and reverendpanāvuso, dhammadhammaṁ without abandoningappahāya nibbānanibbānaṁ would realizesacchikareyyā’ti.
rightlySammā answeringbyākaramāno, monksbhikkhave, a monkbhikkhu thusevaṁ would answerbyākareyya:
this‘etaṁ indeedkho, reverendāvuso, dhammadhammaṁ without abandoningappahāya notna nibbānanibbānaṁ would realizesacchikareyyā’ti.

if thatTañce, O mendicantsbhikkhave, mendicantbhikkhuṁ otherspare thusevaṁ should askpuccheyyuṁ:
by the venerable‘āyasmatā indeedno theseete mendicantsbhikkhū from the unskillfulakusalā having drawn awayvuṭṭhāpetvā in the skillfulkusale established?patiṭṭhāpitā’ti?
rightlySammā answeringbyākaramāno, O mendicantsbhikkhave, mendicantbhikkhu thusevaṁ should answerbyākareyya:
here I‘idhāhaṁ, reverendsāvuso, whereyena the Blessed Onebhagavā I approached himtenupasaṅkamiṁ, to metassa meme the Blessed Onebhagavā the Dhammadhammaṁ taughtdesesi, that Itāhaṁ the Dhammadhammaṁ having heardsutvā to thosetesaṁ mendicantsbhikkhūnaṁ I explainedabhāsiṁ.
thatTaṁ thosete mendicantsbhikkhū the Dhammadhammaṁ having heardsutvā from the unskillfulakusalā they were drawn awayvuṭṭhahiṁsu, in the skillfulkusale they were established'patiṭṭhahiṁsū’ti.
thusEvaṁ answeringbyākaramāno indeedkho, O mendicantsbhikkhave, a mendicantbhikkhu notna andceva himselfattānaṁ does not glorifyukkaṁseti, notna anotherparaṁ does not put downvambheti, of the Dhammadhammassa and in accordance with the teachingcānudhammaṁ answersbyākaroti, notna andca anykoci co-religionistsahadhammiko argument and criticismvādānuvādo blameworthygārayhaṁ groundṭhānaṁ comes toāgacchatī”ti.
this the Blessed One saidIdamavoca the Blessed Onebhagavā.
satisfiedAttamanā thosete mendicantsbhikkhū of the Blessed Onebhagavato the speechbhāsitaṁ approvedabhinandunti.
Kinti SuttaKintisuttaṁ finishedniṭṭhitaṁ thirdtatiyaṁ.

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