With Sunakkhatta · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral
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Evaṁ
me
sutaṁ—
ekaṁ
samayaṁ
bhagavā
vesāliyaṁ
viharati
mahāvane
kūṭāgārasālāyaṁ.
So I have heard. At one time the Buddha was staying near Vesālī, at the Great Wood, in the hall with the peaked roof.
Tena
kho
pana
samayena
sambahulehi
bhikkhūhi
bhagavato
santike
aññā
byākatā
hoti:
“‘khīṇā
jāti,
vusitaṁ
brahmacariyaṁ,
kataṁ
karaṇīyaṁ,
nāparaṁ
itthattāyā’ti
pajānāmā”ti.
Assosi
kho
sunakkhatto
licchaviputto:
“sambahulehi
kira
bhikkhūhi
bhagavato
santike
aññā
byākatā
hoti:
‘khīṇā
jāti,
vusitaṁ
brahmacariyaṁ,
kataṁ
karaṇīyaṁ,
nāparaṁ
itthattāyāti
pajānāmā’”ti.
Now at that time several mendicants had declared their enlightenment in the Buddha’s presence: “We understand: ‘Rebirth is ended, the spiritual journey has been completed, what had to be done has been done, there is nothing further for this place.’” Sunakkhatta the Licchavi heard about this.
Atha kho sunakkhatto licchaviputto yena bhagavā tenupasaṅkami; upasaṅkamitvā bhagavantaṁ abhivādetvā ekamantaṁ nisīdi. Ekamantaṁ nisinno kho sunakkhatto licchaviputto bhagavantaṁ etadavoca:
He went to the Buddha, bowed, sat down to one side, and said to him,
“sutaṁ
metaṁ,
bhante:
‘sambahulehi
kira
bhikkhūhi
bhagavato
santike
aññā
byākatā—
khīṇā
jāti,
vusitaṁ
brahmacariyaṁ,
kataṁ
karaṇīyaṁ,
nāparaṁ
itthattāyāti
pajānāmā’ti.
Ye
te,
bhante,
bhikkhū
bhagavato
santike
aññaṁ
byākaṁsu:
‘khīṇā
jāti,
vusitaṁ
brahmacariyaṁ,
kataṁ
karaṇīyaṁ,
nāparaṁ
itthattāyāti
pajānāmā’ti,
kacci
te,
bhante,
bhikkhū
sammadeva
aññaṁ
byākaṁsu
udāhu
santetthekacce
bhikkhū
adhimānena
aññaṁ
byākaṁsū”ti?
“Sir, I have heard that several mendicants have declared their enlightenment in the Buddha’s presence. I trust they did so rightly—or are there some who declared enlightenment out of overestimation?”
“Ye
te,
sunakkhatta,
bhikkhū
mama
santike
aññaṁ
byākaṁsu:
‘khīṇā
jāti,
vusitaṁ
brahmacariyaṁ,
kataṁ
karaṇīyaṁ,
nāparaṁ
itthattāyāti
pajānāmā’ti.
Santetthekacce
bhikkhū
sammadeva
aññaṁ
byākaṁsu,
santi
panidhekacce
bhikkhū
adhimānenapi
aññaṁ
byākaṁsu.
Tatra,
sunakkhatta,
ye
te
bhikkhū
sammadeva
aññaṁ
byākaṁsu
tesaṁ
taṁ
tatheva
hoti;
ye
pana
te
bhikkhū
adhimānena
aññaṁ
byākaṁsu
tatra,
sunakkhatta,
tathāgatassa
evaṁ
hoti:
‘dhammaṁ
nesaṁ
desessan’ti.
Evañcettha,
sunakkhatta,
tathāgatassa
hoti:
‘dhammaṁ
nesaṁ
desessan’ti.
Atha
ca
panidhekacce
moghapurisā
pañhaṁ
abhisaṅkharitvā
abhisaṅkharitvā
tathāgataṁ
upasaṅkamitvā
pucchanti.
Tatra,
sunakkhatta,
yampi
tathāgatassa
evaṁ
hoti:
‘dhammaṁ
nesaṁ
desessan’ti
tassapi
hoti
aññathattan”ti.
“Some of them did so rightly, Sunakkhatta, while others did so out of overestimation. Now, when mendicants declare enlightenment rightly, that is their truth. But when mendicants declare enlightenment out of overestimation, the Realized One thinks: ‘I should teach them the Dhamma.’ If the Realized One thinks he should teach them the Dhamma, but then certain futile men, having carefully planned a question, approach the Realized One and ask it, then the Realized One changes his mind.”
“Etassa
bhagavā
kālo,
etassa
sugata
kālo,
yaṁ
bhagavā
dhammaṁ
deseyya.
Bhagavato
sutvā
bhikkhū
dhāressantī”ti.
“Tena
hi,
sunakkhatta,
suṇāhi,
sādhukaṁ
manasi
karohi;
bhāsissāmī”ti.
“Evaṁ,
bhante”ti
kho
sunakkhatto
licchaviputto
bhagavato
paccassosi.
Bhagavā
etadavoca—
“Now is the time, Blessed One! Now is the time, Holy One! Let the Buddha teach the Dhamma. The mendicants will listen and remember it.” “Well then, Sunakkhatta, listen and apply your mind well, I will speak.” “Yes, sir,” replied Sunakkhatta. The Buddha said this:
Pañca
kho
ime,
sunakkhatta,
kāmaguṇā.
Katame
pañca?
Cakkhuviññeyyā
rūpā
iṭṭhā
kantā
manāpā
piyarūpā
kāmūpasaṁhitā
rajanīyā,
sotaviññeyyā
saddā
…pe…
ghānaviññeyyā
gandhā
…
jivhāviññeyyā
rasā
…
kāyaviññeyyā
phoṭṭhabbā
iṭṭhā
kantā
manāpā
piyarūpā
kāmūpasaṁhitā
rajanīyā—
ime
kho,
sunakkhatta,
pañca
kāmaguṇā.
“Sunakkhatta, there are these five kinds of sensual stimulation. What five? Sights known by the eye, which are likable, desirable, agreeable, pleasant, sensual, and arousing. Sounds known by the ear … Smells known by the nose … Tastes known by the tongue … Touches known by the body, which are likable, desirable, agreeable, pleasant, sensual, and arousing. These are the five kinds of sensual stimulation.
Ṭhānaṁ
kho
panetaṁ,
sunakkhatta,
vijjati
yaṁ
idhekacco
purisapuggalo
lokāmisādhimutto
assa.
Lokāmisādhimuttassa
kho,
sunakkhatta,
purisapuggalassa
tappatirūpī
ceva
kathā
saṇṭhāti,
tadanudhammañca
anuvitakketi,
anuvicāreti,
tañca
purisaṁ
bhajati,
tena
ca
vittiṁ
āpajjati;
āneñjapaṭisaṁyuttāya
ca
pana
kathāya
kacchamānāya
na
sussūsati,
na
sotaṁ
odahati,
na
aññā
cittaṁ
upaṭṭhāpeti,
na
ca
taṁ
purisaṁ
bhajati,
na
ca
tena
vittiṁ
āpajjati.
It’s possible that a certain individual person may be intent on worldly pleasures of the flesh. Such an individual engages in pertinent conversation, thinking and considering in line with that. They associate with that kind of person, and they find it rewarding. But when talk connected with the imperturbable is going on they don’t want to listen. They don’t actively listen or try to understand. They don’t associate with that kind of person, and they don’t find it rewarding.
Seyyathāpi,
sunakkhatta,
puriso
sakamhā
gāmā
vā
nigamā
vā
ciravippavuttho
assa.
So
aññataraṁ
purisaṁ
passeyya
tamhā
gāmā
vā
nigamā
vā
acirapakkantaṁ.
So
taṁ
purisaṁ
tassa
gāmassa
vā
nigamassa
vā
khematañca
subhikkhatañca
appābādhatañca
puccheyya;
tassa
so
puriso
tassa
gāmassa
vā
nigamassa
vā
khematañca
subhikkhatañca
appābādhatañca
saṁseyya.
Taṁ
kiṁ
maññasi,
sunakkhatta,
api
nu
so
puriso
tassa
purisassa
sussūseyya,
sotaṁ
odaheyya,
aññā
cittaṁ
upaṭṭhāpeyya,
tañca
purisaṁ
bhajeyya,
tena
ca
vittiṁ
āpajjeyyā”ti?
“Evaṁ,
bhante”.
“Evameva
kho,
sunakkhatta,
ṭhānametaṁ
vijjati
yaṁ
idhekacco
purisapuggalo
lokāmisādhimutto
assa.
Lokāmisādhimuttassa
kho,
sunakkhatta,
purisapuggalassa
tappatirūpī
ceva
kathā
saṇṭhāti,
tadanudhammañca
anuvitakketi,
anuvicāreti,
tañca
purisaṁ
bhajati,
tena
ca
vittiṁ
āpajjati;
Suppose a person had left their own village or town long ago, and they saw another person who had only recently left there. They would ask about whether their village was safe, with plenty of food and little disease, and the other person would tell them the news. What do you think, Sunakkhatta? Would that person want to listen to that other person? Would they actively listen and try to understand? Would they associate with that person, and find it rewarding?” “Yes, sir.” “In the same way, it’s possible that a certain individual may be intent on worldly pleasures of the flesh. Such an individual engages in pertinent conversation, thinking and considering in line with that. They associate with that kind of person, and they find it rewarding.
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