With Moggallāna the Guardian · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral
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Jhāyī
ceva
so
bhavaṁ
gotamo
ahosi
jhānasīlī
ca.
Sabbañca
pana
so
bhavaṁ
gotamo
jhānaṁ
vaṇṇesī”ti.
He meditated, and made a habit of meditating. And he praised all kinds of meditation.”
“Na
ca
kho,
brāhmaṇa,
so
bhagavā
sabbaṁ
jhānaṁ
vaṇṇesi,
napi
so
bhagavā
sabbaṁ
jhānaṁ
na
vaṇṇesīti.
Kathaṁ
rūpañca,
brāhmaṇa,
so
bhagavā
jhānaṁ
na
vaṇṇesi?
Idha,
brāhmaṇa,
ekacco
kāmarāgapariyuṭṭhitena
cetasā
viharati
kāmarāgaparetena,
uppannassa
ca
kāmarāgassa
nissaraṇaṁ
yathābhūtaṁ
nappajānāti;
so
kāmarāgaṁyeva
antaraṁ
karitvā
jhāyati
pajjhāyati
nijjhāyati
apajjhāyati.
Byāpādapariyuṭṭhitena
cetasā
viharati
byāpādaparetena,
uppannassa
ca
byāpādassa
nissaraṇaṁ
yathābhūtaṁ
nappajānāti;
so
byāpādaṁyeva
antaraṁ
karitvā
jhāyati
pajjhāyati
nijjhāyati
apajjhāyati.
Thinamiddhapariyuṭṭhitena
cetasā
viharati
thinamiddhaparetena,
uppannassa
ca
thinamiddhassa
nissaraṇaṁ
yathābhūtaṁ
nappajānāti;
so
thinamiddhaṁyeva
antaraṁ
karitvā
jhāyati
pajjhāyati
nijjhāyati
apajjhāyati.
Uddhaccakukkuccapariyuṭṭhitena
cetasā
viharati
uddhaccakukkuccaparetena,
uppannassa
ca
uddhaccakukkuccassa
nissaraṇaṁ
yathābhūtaṁ
nappajānāti;
so
uddhaccakukkuccaṁyeva
antaraṁ
karitvā
jhāyati
pajjhāyati
nijjhāyati
apajjhāyati.
“No, brahmin, the Buddha did not praise all kinds of meditation, nor did he dispraise all kinds of meditation. And what kind of meditation did he not praise? It’s when someone’s heart is overcome and mired in sensual desire, and they don’t truly understand the escape from sensual desire that has arisen. Hiding sensual desire within, they meditate and concentrate and contemplate and ruminate. Their heart is overcome and mired in ill will … dullness and drowsiness … restlessness and remorse …
Vicikicchāpariyuṭṭhitena
cetasā
viharati
vicikicchāparetena,
uppannāya
ca
vicikicchāya
nissaraṇaṁ
yathābhūtaṁ
nappajānāti;
so
vicikicchaṁyeva
antaraṁ
karitvā
jhāyati
pajjhāyati
nijjhāyati
apajjhāyati.
Evarūpaṁ
kho,
brāhmaṇa,
so
bhagavā
jhānaṁ
na
vaṇṇesi.
doubt, and they don’t truly know and see the escape from doubt that has arisen. Hiding doubt within, they meditate and concentrate and contemplate and ruminate. The Buddha didn’t praise this kind of meditation.
Kathaṁ
rūpañca,
brāhmaṇa,
so
bhagavā
jhānaṁ
vaṇṇesi?
Idha,
brāhmaṇa,
bhikkhu
vivicceva
kāmehi
vivicca
akusalehi
dhammehi
savitakkaṁ
savicāraṁ
vivekajaṁ
pītisukhaṁ
paṭhamaṁ
jhānaṁ
upasampajja
viharati.
Vitakkavicārānaṁ
vūpasamā
ajjhattaṁ
sampasādanaṁ
cetaso
ekodibhāvaṁ
avitakkaṁ
avicāraṁ
samādhijaṁ
pītisukhaṁ
dutiyaṁ
jhānaṁ
…
tatiyaṁ
jhānaṁ
…
catutthaṁ
jhānaṁ
upasampajja
viharati.
Evarūpaṁ
kho,
brāhmaṇa,
so
bhagavā
jhānaṁ
vaṇṇesī”ti.
And what kind of meditation did he praise? It’s when a mendicant, quite secluded from sensual pleasures, secluded from unskillful qualities, enters and remains in the first absorption, which has the rapture and bliss born of seclusion, while placing the mind and keeping it connected. As the placing of the mind and keeping it connected are stilled, they enter and remain in the second absorption, which has the rapture and bliss born of immersion, with internal clarity and mind at one, without placing the mind and keeping it connected. And with the fading away of rapture, they enter and remain in the third absorption, where they meditate with equanimity, mindful and aware, experiencing for themselves the bliss of which the noble ones declare, ‘Equanimous and mindful, one meditates in bliss.’ With the giving up of pleasure and pain and the disappearance of former happiness and sadness, they enter and remain in the fourth absorption, without pleasure or pain, with pure equanimity and mindfulness. The Buddha praised this kind of meditation.”
“Gārayhaṁ
kira,
bho
ānanda,
so
bhavaṁ
gotamo
jhānaṁ
garahi,
pāsaṁsaṁ
pasaṁsi.
Handa
ca
dāni
mayaṁ,
bho
ānanda,
gacchāma;
bahukiccā
mayaṁ
bahukaraṇīyā”ti.
“Yassadāni
tvaṁ,
brāhmaṇa,
kālaṁ
maññasī”ti.
Atha
kho
vassakāro
brāhmaṇo
magadhamahāmatto
āyasmato
ānandassa
bhāsitaṁ
abhinanditvā
anumoditvā
uṭṭhāyāsanā
pakkāmi.
“Well, worthy Ānanda, it seems that worthy Gotama criticized the kind of meditation that deserves criticism and praised that deserving of praise. Well, now, worthy Ānanda, I must go. I have many duties, and much to do.” “Please, brahmin, go at your convenience.” Then Vassakāra the brahmin, having approved and agreed with what Venerable Ānanda said, rose from his seat and left.
Atha
kho
gopakamoggallāno
brāhmaṇo
acirapakkante
vassakāre
brāhmaṇe
magadhamahāmatte
āyasmantaṁ
ānandaṁ
etadavoca:
“yaṁ
no
mayaṁ
bhavantaṁ
ānandaṁ
apucchimhā
taṁ
no
bhavaṁ
ānando
na
byākāsī”ti.
“Nanu
te,
brāhmaṇa,
avocumhā:
‘natthi
kho,
brāhmaṇa,
ekabhikkhupi
tehi
dhammehi
sabbenasabbaṁ
sabbathāsabbaṁ
samannāgato
yehi
dhammehi
samannāgato
so
bhagavā
ahosi
arahaṁ
sammāsambuddho.
So
hi,
brāhmaṇa,
bhagavā
anuppannassa
maggassa
uppādetā,
asañjātassa
maggassa
sañjanetā,
anakkhātassa
maggassa
akkhātā,
maggaññū,
maggavidū,
maggakovido.
Maggānugā
ca
pana
etarahi
sāvakā
viharanti
pacchā
samannāgatā’”ti.
Gopakamoggallānasuttaṁ
niṭṭhitaṁ
aṭṭhamaṁ.
Soon after he had left, Moggallāna the Guardian said to Ānanda, “Worthy Ānanda, you still haven’t answered my question.” “But brahmin, didn’t I say: ‘There is no single mendicant who has all the same qualities in each and every way as possessed by the worthy Gotama, the perfected one, the fully awakened Buddha. For the Blessed One gave rise to the unarisen path, gave birth to the unborn path, and explained the unexplained path. He is the knower of the path, the discoverer of the path, the expert on the path. And now the disciples live following the path; they acquire it later.’”
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