With Bhūmija · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral
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Ṭhānañca
kho
etaṁ
vijjati
yaṁ
bhagavā
evaṁ
byākareyyā’ti.
‘Sace
bhoto
bhūmijassa
satthā
evaṁvādī
evamakkhāyī,
addhā
bhoto
bhūmijassa
satthā
sabbesaṁyeva
puthusamaṇabrāhmaṇānaṁ
muddhānaṁ
maññe
āhacca
tiṭṭhatī’ti.
‘Kaccāhaṁ,
bhante,
evaṁ
puṭṭho
evaṁ
byākaramāno
vuttavādī
ceva
bhagavato
homi,
na
ca
bhagavantaṁ
abhūtena
abbhācikkhāmi,
dhammassa
cānudhammaṁ
byākaromi,
na
ca
koci
sahadhammiko
vādānuvādo
gārayhaṁ
ṭhānaṁ
āgacchatī’”ti?
“Answering this way, I trust that I repeated what the Buddha has said, and didn’t misrepresent him with an untruth. I trust my explanation was in line with the teaching, and that there are no legitimate grounds for rebuttal or criticism.”
“Taggha tvaṁ, bhūmija, evaṁ puṭṭho evaṁ byākaramāno vuttavādī ceva me hosi, na ca maṁ abhūtena abbhācikkhasi, dhammassa cānudhammaṁ byākarosi, na ca koci sahadhammiko vādānuvādo gārayhaṁ ṭhānaṁ āgacchati.
“Indeed, Bhūmija, in answering this way you repeated what I’ve said, and didn’t misrepresent me with an untruth. Your explanation was in line with the teaching, and there are no legitimate grounds for rebuttal or criticism.
Ye
hi
keci,
bhūmija,
samaṇā
vā
brāhmaṇā
vā
micchādiṭṭhino
micchāsaṅkappā
micchāvācā
micchākammantā
micchāājīvā
micchāvāyāmā
micchāsatī
micchāsamādhino
te
āsañcepi
karitvā
brahmacariyaṁ
caranti,
abhabbā
phalassa
adhigamāya;
anāsañcepi
karitvā
brahmacariyaṁ
caranti,
abhabbā
phalassa
adhigamāya;
āsañca
anāsañcepi
karitvā
brahmacariyaṁ
caranti,
abhabbā
phalassa
adhigamāya;
nevāsaṁ
nānāsañcepi
karitvā
brahmacariyaṁ
caranti,
abhabbā
phalassa
adhigamāya.
Taṁ
kissa
hetu?
Ayoni
hesā,
bhūmija,
phalassa
adhigamāya.
There are some ascetics and brahmins who have wrong view, wrong purpose, wrong speech, wrong action, wrong livelihood, wrong effort, wrong mindfulness, and wrong immersion. If they lead the spiritual life, they can’t win the fruit, regardless of whether they make a wish, they don’t make a wish, they both do and do not make a wish, or they neither do nor don’t make a wish. Why is that? Because that’s an irrational way to win the fruit.
Seyyathāpi,
bhūmija,
puriso
telatthiko
telagavesī
telapariyesanaṁ
caramāno
vālikaṁ
doṇiyā
ākiritvā
udakena
paripphosakaṁ
paripphosakaṁ
pīḷeyya.
Āsañcepi
karitvā
vālikaṁ
doṇiyā
ākiritvā
udakena
paripphosakaṁ
paripphosakaṁ
pīḷeyya,
abhabbo
telassa
adhigamāya;
anāsañcepi
karitvā
vālikaṁ
doṇiyā
ākiritvā
udakena
paripphosakaṁ
paripphosakaṁ
pīḷeyya,
abhabbo
telassa
adhigamāya;
āsañca
anāsañcepi
karitvā
vālikaṁ
doṇiyā
ākiritvā
udakena
paripphosakaṁ
paripphosakaṁ
pīḷeyya,
abhabbo
telassa
adhigamāya;
nevāsaṁ
nānāsañcepi
karitvā
vālikaṁ
doṇiyā
ākiritvā
udakena
paripphosakaṁ
paripphosakaṁ
pīḷeyya,
abhabbo
telassa
adhigamāya.
Taṁ
kissa
hetu?
Ayoni
hesā,
bhūmija,
telassa
adhigamāya.
Evameva
kho,
bhūmija,
ye
hi
keci
samaṇā
vā
brāhmaṇā
vā
micchādiṭṭhino
micchāsaṅkappā
micchāvācā
micchākammantā
micchāājīvā
micchāvāyāmā
micchāsatī
micchāsamādhino
te
āsañcepi
karitvā
brahmacariyaṁ
caranti,
abhabbā
phalassa
adhigamāya;
Suppose there was a person in need of oil. While wandering in search of oil, they tried heaping sand in a bucket, sprinkling it little by little with water, and pressing it out. But by doing this, they couldn’t extract any oil, regardless of whether they made a wish, didn’t make a wish, both did and did not make a wish, or neither did nor did not make a wish. Why is that? Because that’s an irrational way to extract oil. And so it is for any ascetics and brahmins who have wrong view, wrong purpose, wrong speech, wrong action, wrong livelihood, wrong effort, wrong mindfulness, and wrong immersion. If they lead the spiritual life, they can’t win the fruit, regardless of whether or not they make a wish.
anāsañcepi
karitvā
brahmacariyaṁ
caranti,
abhabbā
phalassa
adhigamāya;
āsañca
anāsañcepi
karitvā
brahmacariyaṁ
caranti,
abhabbā
phalassa
adhigamāya;
nevāsaṁ
nānāsañcepi
karitvā
brahmacariyaṁ
caranti,
abhabbā
phalassa
adhigamāya.
Taṁ
kissa
hetu?
Ayoni
hesā,
bhūmija,
phalassa
adhigamāya.
Why is that? Because that’s an irrational way to win the fruit.
Seyyathāpi,
bhūmija,
puriso
khīratthiko
khīragavesī
khīrapariyesanaṁ
caramāno
gāviṁ
taruṇavacchaṁ
visāṇato
āviñcheyya.
Āsañcepi
karitvā
gāviṁ
taruṇavacchaṁ
visāṇato
āviñcheyya,
abhabbo
khīrassa
adhigamāya;
anāsañcepi
karitvā
…pe…
āsañca
anāsañcepi
karitvā
…pe…
nevāsaṁ
nānāsañcepi
karitvā
gāviṁ
taruṇavacchaṁ
visāṇato
āviñcheyya,
abhabbo
khīrassa
adhigamāya.
Taṁ
kissa
hetu?
Ayoni
hesā,
bhūmija,
khīrassa
adhigamāya.
Evameva
kho,
bhūmija,
ye
hi
keci
samaṇā
vā
brāhmaṇā
vā
micchādiṭṭhino
…pe…
micchāsamādhino
te
āsañcepi
karitvā
brahmacariyaṁ
caranti,
abhabbā
phalassa
adhigamāya;
anāsañcepi
karitvā
…pe…
āsañca
anāsañcepi
karitvā
…pe…
nevāsaṁ
nānāsañcepi
karitvā
brahmacariyaṁ
caranti,
abhabbā
phalassa
adhigamāya.
Taṁ
kissa
hetu?
Ayoni
hesā,
bhūmija,
phalassa
adhigamāya.
Suppose there was a person in need of milk. While wandering in search of milk, they tried pulling the horn of a newly-calved cow. But by doing this, they couldn’t get any milk, regardless of whether they made a wish, didn’t make a wish, both did and did not make a wish, or neither did nor did not make a wish. Why is that? Because that’s an irrational way to get milk. And so it is for any ascetics and brahmins who have wrong view … Because that’s an irrational way to win the fruit.
Seyyathāpi,
bhūmija,
puriso
navanītatthiko
navanītagavesī
navanītapariyesanaṁ
caramāno
udakaṁ
kalase
āsiñcitvā
matthena
āviñcheyya.
Āsañcepi
karitvā
udakaṁ
kalase
āsiñcitvā
matthena
āviñcheyya,
abhabbo
navanītassa
adhigamāya;
anāsañcepi
karitvā
…pe…
āsañca
anāsañcepi
karitvā
…pe…
nevāsaṁ
nānāsañcepi
karitvā
udakaṁ
kalase
āsiñcitvā
matthena
āviñcheyya,
abhabbo
navanītassa
adhigamāya.
Taṁ
kissa
hetu?
Ayoni
hesā,
bhūmija,
navanītassa
adhigamāya.
Evameva
kho,
bhūmija,
ye
hi
keci
samaṇā
vā
brāhmaṇā
vā
micchādiṭṭhino
…pe…
micchāsamādhino
te
āsañcepi
karitvā
brahmacariyaṁ
caranti,
abhabbā
phalassa
adhigamāya;
anāsañcepi
karitvā
…pe…
āsañca
anāsañcepi
karitvā
…pe…
nevāsaṁ
nānāsañcepi
karitvā
brahmacariyaṁ
caranti,
abhabbā
phalassa
adhigamāya.
Taṁ
kissa
hetu?
Ayoni
hesā,
bhūmija,
phalassa
adhigamāya.
Suppose there was a person in need of butter. While wandering in search of butter, they tried pouring water into a pot and churning it with a stick. But by doing this, they couldn’t produce any butter, regardless of whether they made a wish, didn’t make a wish, both did and did not make a wish, or neither did nor did not make a wish. Why is that? Because that’s an irrational way to produce butter. And so it is for any ascetics and brahmins who have wrong view … Because that’s an irrational way to win the fruit.
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