With Bhūmija · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral
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thusEvaṁ
by meme
heardsutaṁ—
oneekaṁ
timesamayaṁ
the Buddhabhagavā
near Rājagaharājagahe
was stayingviharati
in the Bamboo Groveveḷuvane
the squirrels’ feeding groundkalandakanivāpe.
So I have heard. At one time the Buddha was staying near Rājagaha in the Bamboo Grove, the squirrels’ feeding ground.
thenAtha indeedkho venerableāyasmā Bhūmijabhūmijo in the morningpubbaṇhasamayaṁ having robed upnivāsetvā taking bowl and robepattacīvaramādāya whereyena of Jayasenajayasenassa of the princerājakumārassa homenivesanaṁ went to ittenupasaṅkami; having approachedupasaṅkamitvā spread outpaññatte on the seatāsane he sat downnisīdi.
Then Venerable Bhūmija robed up in the morning and, taking his bowl and robe, went to the home of Prince Jayasena, where he sat down on the seat spread out.
thenAtha
indeedkho
Jayasenajayaseno
the princerājakumāro
to whom the venerableyenāyasmā
Bhūmijabhūmijo
to him he approachedtenupasaṅkami;
having approachedupasaṅkamitvā
with the venerableāyasmatā
Bhūmijabhūmijena
togethersaddhiṁ
he exchanged greetingssammodi.
the politeSammodanīyaṁ
conversationkathaṁ
memorablesāraṇīyaṁ
having exchangedvītisāretvā
to one sideekamantaṁ
he sat downnisīdi.
to one sideEkamantaṁ
seatednisinno
indeedkho
Jayasenajayaseno
the princerājakumāro
the venerableāyasmantaṁ
Bhūmijabhūmijaṁ
he said thisetadavoca:
there are“santi,
worthybho
Bhūmijabhūmija,
someeke
ascetics and brahminssamaṇabrāhmaṇā
holding this doctrineevaṁvādino
holding this viewevaṁdiṭṭhino:
if even with a wish‘āsañcepi
having madekaritvā
the spiritual lifebrahmacariyaṁ
they leadcaranti,
unableabhabbā
of the fruitphalassa
for attainingadhigamāya;
if even without a wishanāsañcepi
having madekaritvā
the spiritual lifebrahmacariyaṁ
they leadcaranti,
unableabhabbā
of the fruitphalassa
for attainingadhigamāya;
if with a wishāsañca
and if even without a wishanāsañcepi
having madekaritvā
the spiritual lifebrahmacariyaṁ
they leadcaranti,
unableabhabbā
of the fruitphalassa
for attainingadhigamāya;
if neither with a wishnevāsaṁ
nor if even without a wishnānāsañcepi
having madekaritvā
the spiritual lifebrahmacariyaṁ
they leadcaranti,
unableabhabbā
of the fruitphalassa
for attainingadhigamāyā’ti.
hereIdha
of the worthybhoto
of Bhūmijabhūmijassa
teachersatthā
what does he saykiṁvādī
what does he explainkimakkhāyī”ti?
Then Jayasena approached and exchanged greetings with him. When the greetings and polite conversation were over, he sat down to one side and said to Bhūmija: “Worthy Bhūmija, there are some ascetics and brahmins who have this doctrine and view: ‘If you make a wish and lead the spiritual life, you can’t win the fruit. If you don’t make a wish and lead the spiritual life, you can’t win the fruit. If you both make a wish and don’t make a wish and lead the spiritual life, you can’t win the fruit. If you neither make a wish nor don’t make a wish and lead the spiritual life, you can’t win the fruit.’ What does the worthy Bhūmija’s Teacher say about this? How does he explain it?”
not“Na
indeedkho
this by memetaṁ,
princerājakumāra,
of the Blessed Onebhagavato
in the presencesammukhā
heardsutaṁ,
in the presencesammukhā
learnedpaṭiggahitaṁ.
and it is possibleṬhānañca
indeedkho
itetaṁ
is foundvijjati
thatyaṁ
the Blessed Onebhagavā
thusevaṁ
might explainbyākareyya:
if with a wish‘āsañcepi
having madekaritvā
irrationallyayoniso
the spiritual lifebrahmacariyaṁ
leadcaranti,
unableabhabbā
of the fruitphalassa
to the attainmentadhigamāya;
if without a wishanāsañcepi
having madekaritvā
irrationallyayoniso
the spiritual lifebrahmacariyaṁ
leadcaranti,
unableabhabbā
of the fruitphalassa
to the attainmentadhigamāya;
and with a wishāsañca
and if without a wishanāsañcepi
having madekaritvā
irrationallyayoniso
the spiritual lifebrahmacariyaṁ
leadcaranti,
unableabhabbā
of the fruitphalassa
to the attainmentadhigamāya;
if neither with a wishnevāsaṁ
nor if without a wishnānāsañcepi
having madekaritvā
irrationallyayoniso
the spiritual lifebrahmacariyaṁ
leadcaranti,
unableabhabbā
of the fruitphalassa
to the attainmentadhigamāya.
if with a wishĀsañcepi
having madekaritvā
rationallyyoniso
the spiritual lifebrahmacariyaṁ
leadcaranti,
ablebhabbā
of the fruitphalassa
to the attainmentadhigamāya;
if without a wishanāsañcepi
having madekaritvā
rationallyyoniso
the spiritual lifebrahmacariyaṁ
leadcaranti,
ablebhabbā
of the fruitphalassa
to the attainmentadhigamāya;
and with a wishāsañca
and if without a wishanāsañcepi
having madekaritvā
rationallyyoniso
the spiritual lifebrahmacariyaṁ
leadcaranti,
ablebhabbā
of the fruitphalassa
to the attainmentadhigamāya;
if neither with a wishnevāsaṁ
nor if without a wishnānāsañcepi
having madekaritvā
rationallyyoniso
the spiritual lifebrahmacariyaṁ
leadcaranti,
ablebhabbā
of the fruitphalassa
to the attainmentadhigamāyā’ti.
notNa
indeedkho
by meme
thattaṁ,
princerājakumāra,
of the Blessed Onebhagavato
in the presencesammukhā
heardsutaṁ,
in the presencesammukhā
learnedpaṭiggahitaṁ.
“Prince, I haven’t heard and learned this in the presence of the Buddha. But it’s possible that he might explain it like this: ‘If you lead the spiritual life irrationally, you can’t win the fruit, regardless of whether you make a wish, you don’t make a wish, you both do and do not make a wish, or you neither do nor don’t make a wish. But if you lead the spiritual life rationally, you can win the fruit, regardless of whether you make a wish, you don’t make a wish, you both do and do not make a wish, or you neither do nor don’t make a wish.’ I haven’t heard and learned this in the presence of the Buddha.
and it is possibleṬhānañca indeedkho thisetaṁ existsvijjati thatyaṁ the Blessed Onebhagavā thusevaṁ might explainbyākareyyā”ti.
But it’s possible that he might explain it like that.”
if“Sace indeedkho of the worthybhoto of Bhūmijabhūmijassa teachersatthā of such doctrineevaṁvādī of such teachingevamakkhāyī, clearlyaddhā of the worthybhoto of Bhūmijabhūmijassa teachersatthā of allsabbesaṁyeva of the various ascetics and brahminsputhusamaṇabrāhmaṇānaṁ headmuddhānaṁ I thinkmaññe having struckāhacca he standstiṭṭhatī”ti.
“If that’s what your teacher says, worthy Bhūmija, he clearly stands head and shoulders above all the various other ascetics and brahmins.”
thenAtha indeedkho Jayasenajayaseno princerājakumāro Venerableāyasmantaṁ Bhūmijabhūmijaṁ from his ownsakeneva dishthālipākena servedparivisi.
Then Prince Jayasena served Venerable Bhūmija from his own dish.
thenAtha
indeedkho
venerableāyasmā
Bhūmijabhūmijo
after the mealpacchābhattaṁ
returned from almsroundpiṇḍapātapaṭikkanto
whereyena
the Blessed Onebhagavā
approached himtenupasaṅkami;
having approachedupasaṅkamitvā
the Blessed Onebhagavantaṁ
having bowedabhivādetvā
to one sideekamantaṁ
sat downnisīdi.
to one sideEkamantaṁ
seatednisinno
indeedkho
venerableāyasmā
Bhūmijabhūmijo
the Blessed Onebhagavantaṁ
said thisetadavoca:
here I“idhāhaṁ,
venerable sirbhante,
in the morningpubbaṇhasamayaṁ
having dressednivāsetvā
taking bowl and robepattacīvaramādāya
whereyena
of Jayasenajayasenassa
of princerājakumārassa
residencenivesanaṁ
approached ittenupasaṅkamiṁ;
having approachedupasaṅkamitvā
preparedpaññatte
seatāsane
sat downnisīdiṁ.
thenAtha
indeedkho,
venerable sirbhante,
Jayasenajayaseno
princerājakumāro
where I wasyenāhaṁ
approached metenupasaṅkami;
having approachedupasaṅkamitvā
with memayā
togethersaddhiṁ
exchanged greetingssammodi.
cordialSammodanīyaṁ
talkkathaṁ
memorablesāraṇīyaṁ
having exchangedvītisāretvā
to one sideekamantaṁ
sat downnisīdi.
to one sideEkamantaṁ
seatednisinno
indeedkho,
venerable sirbhante,
Jayasenajayaseno
princerājakumāro
memaṁ
said thisetadavoca:
there are‘santi,
friendbho
Bhūmijabhūmija,
someeke
ascetics and brahminssamaṇabrāhmaṇā
holding this doctrineevaṁvādino
holding this viewevaṁdiṭṭhino—
even with expectationāsañcepi
having madekaritvā
the spiritual lifebrahmacariyaṁ
they livecaranti,
unableabhabbā
of fruitphalassa
for attainmentadhigamāya;
even without expectationanāsañcepi
having madekaritvā
...…pe…
with expectation andāsañca
without expectation evenanāsañcepi
having madekaritvā
the spiritual lifebrahmacariyaṁ
they livecaranti,
unableabhabbā
of fruitphalassa
for attainmentadhigamāya;
neither with expectationnevāsaṁ
nor without expectation evennānāsañcepi
having madekaritvā
the spiritual lifebrahmacariyaṁ
they livecaranti,
unableabhabbā
of fruitphalassa
for attainmentadhigamāyā’ti.
here‘Idha
of master Bhūmijabhoto
of Bhūmijabhūmijassa
teachersatthā
what does he teachkiṁvādī
what does he proclaimkimakkhāyī’ti?
Then after the meal, on his return from almsround, Bhūmija went to the Buddha, bowed, sat down to one side, and told him all that had happened, adding:
thusEvaṁ
when saidvutte,
Iahaṁ,
venerable sirbhante,
to Jayasenajayasenaṁ
to the princerājakumāraṁ
said thisetadavocaṁ:
not‘na
indeedkho
by meme
thattaṁ,
princerājakumāra,
of the Blessed Onebhagavato
in the presencesammukhā
heardsutaṁ,
in the presencesammukhā
receivedpaṭiggahitaṁ.
and the caseṬhānañca
indeedkho
thisetaṁ
is foundvijjati
thatyaṁ
the Blessed Onebhagavā
thusevaṁ
would explainbyākareyya—
even with wishāsañcepi
having madekaritvā
improperlyayoniso
the holy lifebrahmacariyaṁ
they livecaranti,
unableabhabbā
of the fruitphalassa
for attainmentadhigamāya;
even without wishanāsañcepi
having madekaritvā
improperlyayoniso
the holy lifebrahmacariyaṁ
they livecaranti,
unableabhabbā
of the fruitphalassa
for attainmentadhigamāya;
and with wishāsañca
even without wishanāsañcepi
having madekaritvā
improperlyayoniso
the holy lifebrahmacariyaṁ
they livecaranti,
unableabhabbā
of the fruitphalassa
for attainmentadhigamāya;
neither with nor without wishnevāsaṁ
even neither with nor without wishnānāsañcepi
having madekaritvā
improperlyayoniso
the holy lifebrahmacariyaṁ
they livecaranti,
unableabhabbā
of the fruitphalassa
for attainmentadhigamāya.
even with wishĀsañcepi
having madekaritvā
properlyyoniso
the holy lifebrahmacariyaṁ
they livecaranti,
ablebhabbā
of the fruitphalassa
for attainmentadhigamāya;
even without wishanāsañcepi
having madekaritvā
…pe……pe…
and with wishāsañca
even without wishanāsañcepi
having madekaritvā
…pe……pe…
neither with nor without wishnevāsaṁ
even neither with nor without wishnānāsañcepi
having madekaritvā
properlyyoniso
the holy lifebrahmacariyaṁ
they livecaranti,
ablebhabbā
of the fruitphalassa
for attainmentadhigamāyāti.
notNa
indeedkho
by meme
thattaṁ,
princerājakumāra,
of the Blessed Onebhagavato
in the presencesammukhā
heardsutaṁ,
in the presencesammukhā
receivedpaṭiggahitaṁ.
When this was said, venerable sir, I said this to Prince Jayasena: “Prince, I have not heard this in the Blessed One’s presence, nor received it in his presence. But there is this case where the Blessed One would explain thus: Even with a wish, if they live the holy life improperly, they are unable to attain the fruit; even without a wish, if they live the holy life improperly, they are unable to attain the fruit; even with both a wish and without a wish, if they live the holy life improperly, they are unable to attain the fruit; even with neither a wish nor without a wish, if they live the holy life improperly, they are unable to attain the fruit. Even with a wish, if they live the holy life properly, they are able to attain the fruit; even without a wish …pe… even with both a wish and without a wish …pe… even with neither a wish nor without a wish, if they live the holy life properly, they are able to attain the fruit.” Prince, I have not heard this in the Blessed One’s presence, nor received it in his presence.
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