With Anuruddha · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral
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yvāyaṁ
bhikkhu
yāvatā
dve
vā
tīṇi
vā
rukkhamūlāni
‘mahaggatan’ti
pharitvā
adhimuccitvā
viharati,
yo
cāyaṁ
bhikkhu
yāvatā
ekaṁ
gāmakkhettaṁ
‘mahaggatan’ti
pharitvā
adhimuccitvā
viharati—
imāsaṁ
ubhinnaṁ
cittabhāvanānaṁ
katamā
cittabhāvanā
mahaggatatarā”ti?
“Yvāyaṁ,
bhante,
bhikkhu
yāvatā
ekaṁ
gāmakkhettaṁ
‘mahaggatan’ti
pharitvā
adhimuccitvā
viharati—
ayaṁ
imāsaṁ
ubhinnaṁ
cittabhāvanānaṁ
mahaggatatarā”ti.
“Taṁ
kiṁ
maññasi,
āvuso
kaccāna,
yvāyaṁ
bhikkhu
yāvatā
ekaṁ
gāmakkhettaṁ
‘mahaggatan’ti
pharitvā
adhimuccitvā
viharati,
yo
cāyaṁ
bhikkhu
yāvatā
dve
vā
tīṇi
vā
gāmakkhettāni
‘mahaggatan’ti
pharitvā
adhimuccitvā
viharati—
imāsaṁ
ubhinnaṁ
cittabhāvanānaṁ
katamā
cittabhāvanā
mahaggatatarā”ti?
“Yvāyaṁ,
bhante,
bhikkhu
yāvatā
dve
vā
tīṇi
vā
gāmakkhettāni
‘mahaggatan’ti
pharitvā
adhimuccitvā
viharati—
ayaṁ
imāsaṁ
ubhinnaṁ
cittabhāvanānaṁ
mahaggatatarā”ti.
Which of these two kinds of mental development is more expansive: when a mendicant meditates focused on pervading as expansive the extent of two or three tree roots, or a single village district … two or three village districts …
“Taṁ
kiṁ
maññasi,
āvuso
kaccāna,
yvāyaṁ
bhikkhu
yāvatā
dve
vā
tīṇi
vā
gāmakkhettāni
‘mahaggatan’ti
pharitvā
adhimuccitvā
viharati,
yo
cāyaṁ
bhikkhu
yāvatā
ekaṁ
mahārajjaṁ
‘mahaggatan’ti
pharitvā
adhimuccitvā
viharati—
imāsaṁ
ubhinnaṁ
cittabhāvanānaṁ
katamā
cittabhāvanā
mahaggatatarā”ti?
“Yvāyaṁ,
bhante,
bhikkhu
yāvatā
ekaṁ
mahārajjaṁ
‘mahaggatan’ti
pharitvā
adhimuccitvā
viharati—
ayaṁ
imāsaṁ
ubhinnaṁ
cittabhāvanānaṁ
mahaggatatarā”ti.
“Taṁ
kiṁ
maññasi,
āvuso
kaccāna,
yvāyaṁ
bhikkhu
yāvatā
ekaṁ
mahārajjaṁ
‘mahaggatan’ti
pharitvā
adhimuccitvā
viharati,
yo
cāyaṁ
bhikkhu
yāvatā
dve
vā
tīṇi
vā
mahārajjāni
‘mahaggatan’ti
pharitvā
adhimuccitvā
viharati—
imāsaṁ
ubhinnaṁ
cittabhāvanānaṁ
katamā
cittabhāvanā
mahaggatatarā”ti?
“Yvāyaṁ,
bhante,
bhikkhu
yāvatā
dve
vā
tīṇi
vā
mahārajjāni
‘mahaggatan’ti
pharitvā
adhimuccitvā
viharati—
ayaṁ
imāsaṁ
ubhinnaṁ
cittabhāvanānaṁ
mahaggatatarā”ti.
a single kingdom … two or three kingdoms …
“Taṁ
kiṁ
maññasi,
āvuso
kaccāna,
yvāyaṁ
bhikkhu
yāvatā
dve
vā
tīṇi
vā
mahārajjāni
‘mahaggatan’ti
pharitvā
adhimuccitvā
viharati,
yo
cāyaṁ
bhikkhu
yāvatā
samuddapariyantaṁ
pathaviṁ
‘mahaggatan’ti
pharitvā
adhimuccitvā
viharati—
imāsaṁ
ubhinnaṁ
cittabhāvanānaṁ
katamā
cittabhāvanā
mahaggatatarā”ti?
“Yvāyaṁ,
bhante,
bhikkhu
yāvatā
samuddapariyantaṁ
pathaviṁ
‘mahaggatan’ti
pharitvā
adhimuccitvā
viharati—
ayaṁ
imāsaṁ
ubhinnaṁ
cittabhāvanānaṁ
mahaggatatarā”ti?
“Ayaṁ
kho,
āvuso
kaccāna,
hetu
ayaṁ
paccayo,
yena
tāsaṁ
devatānaṁ
ekaṁ
devanikāyaṁ
upapannānaṁ
santettha
ekaccā
devatā
parittābhā,
santi
panettha
ekaccā
devatā
appamāṇābhā”ti.
this land surrounded by ocean?” “When a mendicant meditates on this land surrounded by ocean.” “This is the cause, Reverend Kaccāna, this is the reason why, when those deities have been reborn in a single order of gods, some deities there have limited luminosity, while some have limitless luminosity.”
“Sādhu,
bhante
anuruddha.
Atthi
ca
me
ettha
uttariṁ
paṭipucchitabbaṁ.
Yāvatā,
bhante,
devatā
ābhā
sabbā
tā
saṅkiliṭṭhābhā
udāhu
santettha
ekaccā
devatā
parisuddhābhā”ti?
“Tadaṅgena
kho,
āvuso
kaccāna,
santettha
ekaccā
devatā
saṅkiliṭṭhābhā,
santi
panettha
ekaccā
devatā
parisuddhābhā”ti.
“Good, Honorable Anuruddha! I have a further question about this. Do all the radiant deities have corrupted radiance, or do some there have pure radiance?” “In that respect, Reverend Kaccāna, some deities there have corrupted radiance, while some have pure radiance.”
“Ko
nu
kho,
bhante,
anuruddha,
hetu
ko
paccayo,
yena
tāsaṁ
devatānaṁ
ekaṁ
devanikāyaṁ
upapannānaṁ
santettha
ekaccā
devatā
saṅkiliṭṭhābhā,
santi
panettha
ekaccā
devatā
parisuddhābhā”ti?
“Tena
hāvuso
kaccāna,
upamaṁ
te
karissāmi.
Upamāyapidhekacce
viññū
purisā
bhāsitassa
atthaṁ
ājānanti.
Seyyathāpi,
āvuso
kaccāna,
telappadīpassa
jhāyato
telampi
aparisuddhaṁ
vaṭṭipi
aparisuddhā.
So
telassapi
aparisuddhattā
vaṭṭiyāpi
aparisuddhattā
andhandhaṁ
viya
jhāyati;
evameva
kho,
āvuso
kaccāna,
idhekacco
bhikkhu
‘saṅkiliṭṭhābhā’ti
pharitvā
adhimuccitvā
viharati,
tassa
kāyaduṭṭhullampi
na
suppaṭippassaddhaṁ
hoti,
thinamiddhampi
na
susamūhataṁ
hoti,
uddhaccakukkuccampi
na
suppaṭivinītaṁ
hoti.
So
kāyaduṭṭhullassapi
na
suppaṭippassaddhattā
thinamiddhassapi
na
susamūhatattā
uddhaccakukkuccassapi
na
suppaṭivinītattā
andhandhaṁ
viya
jhāyati.
So
kāyassa
bhedā
paraṁ
maraṇā
saṅkiliṭṭhābhānaṁ
devānaṁ
sahabyataṁ
upapajjati.
“What is the cause, Honorable Anuruddha, what is the reason why, when those deities have been reborn in a single order of gods, some deities there have corrupted radiance, while some have pure radiance?” “Well then, Reverend Kaccāna, I shall give you a simile. For by means of a simile some sensible people understand the meaning of what is said. Suppose an oil lamp was burning with impure oil and impure wick. Because of the impurity of the oil and the wick it burns dimly, as it were. In the same way, take some mendicant who meditates focused on pervading ‘corrupted radiance’. Their physical discomfort is not completely settled, their dullness and drowsiness is not completely eradicated, and their restlessness and remorse are not completely eliminated. Because of this they practice absorption dimly, as it were. When their body breaks up, after death, they’re reborn in the company of the gods of corrupted luminosity.
Seyyathāpi,
āvuso
kaccāna,
telappadīpassa
jhāyato
telampi
parisuddhaṁ
vaṭṭipi
parisuddhā.
So
telassapi
parisuddhattā
vaṭṭiyāpi
parisuddhattā
na
andhandhaṁ
viya
jhāyati;
evameva
kho,
āvuso
kaccāna,
idhekacco
bhikkhu
‘parisuddhābhā’ti
pharitvā
adhimuccitvā
viharati.
Tassa
kāyaduṭṭhullampi
suppaṭippassaddhaṁ
hoti,
thinamiddhampi
susamūhataṁ
hoti,
uddhaccakukkuccampi
suppaṭivinītaṁ
hoti.
So
kāyaduṭṭhullassapi
suppaṭippassaddhattā
thinamiddhassapi
susamūhatattā
uddhaccakukkuccassapi
suppaṭivinītattā
na
andhandhaṁ
viya
jhāyati.
So
kāyassa
bhedā
paraṁ
maraṇā
parisuddhābhānaṁ
devānaṁ
sahabyataṁ
upapajjati.
Ayaṁ
kho,
āvuso
kaccāna,
hetu
ayaṁ
paccayo
yena
tāsaṁ
devatānaṁ
ekaṁ
devanikāyaṁ
upapannānaṁ
santettha
ekaccā
devatā
saṅkiliṭṭhābhā,
santi
panettha
ekaccā
devatā
parisuddhābhā”ti.
Suppose an oil lamp was burning with pure oil and pure wick. Because of the purity of the oil and the wick it doesn’t burn dimly, as it were. In the same way, take some mendicant who meditates focused on pervading ‘pure radiance’. Their physical discomfort is completely settled, their dullness and drowsiness is completely eradicated, and their restlessness and remorse is completely eliminated. Because of this they don’t practice absorption dimly, as it were. When their body breaks up, after death, they’re reborn in the company of the gods of pure luminosity. This is the cause, Reverend Kaccāna, this is the reason why, when those deities have been reborn in a single order of gods, some deities there have corrupted radiance, while some have pure radiance.”
Evaṁ
vutte,
āyasmā
sabhiyo
kaccāno
āyasmantaṁ
anuruddhaṁ
etadavoca:
“sādhu,
bhante
anuruddha.
Na,
bhante,
āyasmā
anuruddho
evamāha:
‘evaṁ
me
sutan’ti
vā
‘evaṁ
arahati
bhavitun’ti
vā;
atha
ca
pana,
bhante,
āyasmā
anuruddho
‘evampi
tā
devatā,
itipi
tā
devatā’tveva
bhāsati.
Tassa
mayhaṁ,
bhante,
evaṁ
hoti:
‘addhā
āyasmatā
anuruddhena
tāhi
devatāhi
saddhiṁ
sannivutthapubbañceva
sallapitapubbañca
sākacchā
ca
samāpajjitapubbā’”ti.
“Addhā
kho
ayaṁ,
āvuso
kaccāna,
āsajja
upanīya
vācā
bhāsitā,
api
ca
te
ahaṁ
byākarissāmi:
‘dīgharattaṁ
kho
me,
āvuso
kaccāna,
tāhi
devatāhi
saddhiṁ
sannivutthapubbañceva
sallapitapubbañca
sākacchā
ca
samāpajjitapubbā’”ti.
When he had spoken, Venerable Sabhiya Kaccāna said to Venerable Anuruddha, “Good, Honorable Anuruddha! Venerable Anuruddha, you don’t say, ‘So I have heard’ or ‘It ought to be like this.’ Rather, you say: ‘These deities are like this, those deities are like that.’ Sir, it occurs to me, ‘Clearly, Venerable Anuruddha has previously lived together with those deities, conversed, and engaged in discussion.’” “Your words are clearly invasive and intrusive, Reverend Kaccāna. Nevertheless, I will answer you. For a long time I have previously lived together with those deities, conversed, and engaged in discussion.”
Evaṁ
vutte,
āyasmā
sabhiyo
kaccāno
pañcakaṅgaṁ
thapatiṁ
etadavoca:
“lābhā
te,
gahapati,
suladdhaṁ
te,
gahapati,
yaṁ
tvañceva
taṁ
kaṅkhādhammaṁ
pahāsi,
mayañcimaṁ
dhammapariyāyaṁ
alatthamhā
savanāyā”ti.
Anuruddhasuttaṁ
niṭṭhitaṁ
sattamaṁ.
When he had spoken, Venerable Sabhiya Kaccāna said to Pañcakaṅga the chamberlain, “You’re fortunate, householder, so very fortunate, to have given up your state of uncertainty, and to have got the chance to listen to this exposition of the teaching.”
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