The Longer Discourse on the Lion’s Roar · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral
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I recallAbhijānāmi
indeedkho
now Ipanāhaṁ,
Sāriputtasāriputta,
many hundreds ofanekasataṁ
brahmin assembliesbrāhmaṇaparisaṁ
and so on…pe…
householder assembliesgahapatiparisaṁ
……
ascetic assembliessamaṇaparisaṁ
……
four great kings' god assembliescātumahārājikaparisaṁ
……
thirty-three god assembliestāvatiṁsaparisaṁ
……
Māra assembliesmāraparisaṁ
……
divinity assembliesbrahmaparisaṁ
having approachedupasaṅkamitā.
there tooTatrapi
by memayā
formerly sat together andsannisinnapubbañceva,
formerly conversed andsallapitapubbañca,
discussionssākacchā
andca
formerly engaged insamāpajjitapubbā.
in that caseTatra
indeedvata
memaṁ
fearbhayaṁ
orvā
insecuritysārajjaṁ
orvā
will beset (quote)okkamissatīti
this groundnimittametaṁ,
Sāriputtasāriputta,
notna
I seesamanupassāmi.
this IEtamahaṁ,
Sāriputtasāriputta,
groundnimittaṁ
not seeingasamanupassanto
attained securitykhemappatto
attained fearlessnessabhayappatto
attained self-assurancevesārajjappatto
I liveviharāmi.
I recall having approached an assembly of hundreds of brahmins … householders … ascetics … the gods of the four great kings … the gods of the thirty-three … Māras … divinities. There too I used to sit with them, converse, and engage in discussion. But I don’t see any reason to feel afraid or insecure. Since I see no such reason, I live secure, fearless, and self-assured.
whoeverYo
indeedkho
memaṁ,
Sāriputtasāriputta,
thusevaṁ
knowingjānantaṁ
thusevaṁ
seeingpassantaṁ
thusevaṁ
would sayvadeyya:
there is not‘natthi
of the asceticsamaṇassa
Gotamagotamassa
beyonduttari
the human normmanussadhammā
distinction in noble knowledge and visionalamariyañāṇadassanaviseso,
hammered out by logictakkapariyāhataṁ
the asceticsamaṇo
Gotamagotamo
the teachingdhammaṁ
teachesdeseti
following inquiryvīmaṁsānucaritaṁ
his own invention (quote)sayampaṭibhānan’ti,
thattaṁ,
Sāriputtasāriputta,
speechvācaṁ
without giving upappahāya
thattaṁ
thoughtcittaṁ
without giving upappahāya
thattaṁ
viewdiṭṭhiṁ
without relinquishingappaṭinissajjitvā
as if carried offyathābhataṁ
placednikkhitto
thusevaṁ
in hellniraye.
just asSeyyathāpi,
Sāriputtasāriputta,
a monkbhikkhu
accomplished in ethicssīlasampanno
accomplished in immersionsamādhisampanno
accomplished in wisdompaññāsampanno
in this verydiṭṭheva
lifedhamme
enlightenmentaññaṁ
would attainārādheyya,
suchevaṁ
is this consequencesampadamidaṁ,
Sāriputtasāriputta,
I sayvadāmi.
thatTaṁ
speechvācaṁ
without giving upappahāya
thattaṁ
thoughtcittaṁ
without giving upappahāya
thattaṁ
viewdiṭṭhiṁ
without relinquishingappaṭinissajjitvā
as if carried offyathābhataṁ
placednikkhitto
thusevaṁ
in hellniraye.
When I know and see in this way, suppose someone were to say this: ‘The ascetic Gotama has no superhuman distinction in knowledge and vision worthy of the noble ones …’ Unless they give up that speech and that thought, and let go of that view, they will be placed in hell as if delivered there.
fourCatasso
indeedkho
theseimā,
Sāriputtasāriputta,
kinds of reproductionyoniyo.
whatKatamā
four?catasso?
egg-bornAṇḍajā
reproductionyoni,
womb-bornjalābujā
reproductionyoni,
moisture-bornsaṁsedajā
reproductionyoni,
spontaneousopapātikā
reproductionyoni.
Sāriputta, there are these four kinds of reproduction. What four? Reproduction for creatures born from an egg, from a womb, from moisture, or spontaneously.
whatKatamā
andca,
Sāriputtasāriputta,
egg-bornaṇḍajā
reproduction?yoni?
whichYe
indeedkho
thosete,
Sāriputtasāriputta,
beingssattā
the eggshellaṇḍakosaṁ
having broken out ofabhinibbhijja
are bornjāyanti—
thisayaṁ
is calledvuccati,
Sāriputtasāriputta,
egg-bornaṇḍajā
reproductionyoni.
whatKatamā
andca,
Sāriputtasāriputta,
womb-bornjalābujā
reproduction?yoni?
whichYe
indeedkho
thosete,
Sāriputtasāriputta,
beingssattā
the amniotic sacvatthikosaṁ
having broken out ofabhinibbhijja
are bornjāyanti—
thisayaṁ
is calledvuccati,
Sāriputtasāriputta,
womb-bornjalābujā
reproductionyoni.
whatKatamā
andca,
Sāriputtasāriputta,
moisture-bornsaṁsedajā
reproduction?yoni?
whichYe
indeedkho
thosete,
Sāriputtasāriputta,
beingssattā
in a rotten fishpūtimacche
orvā
are bornjāyanti
in a rotten carcasspūtikuṇape
orvā
in rotten porridgepūtikummāse
orvā
in a cesspoolcandanikāye
orvā
in a sumpoḷigalle
orvā
are bornjāyanti—
thisayaṁ
is calledvuccati,
Sāriputtasāriputta,
moisture-bornsaṁsedajā
reproductionyoni.
whatKatamā
andca,
Sāriputtasāriputta,
spontaneousopapātikā
reproduction?yoni?
godsDevā,
hell-beingsnerayikā,
certainekacce
andca
humansmanussā,
certainekacce
andca
beings in the lower realmsvinipātikā—
thisayaṁ
is calledvuccati,
Sāriputtasāriputta,
spontaneousopapātikā
reproductionyoni.
theseImā
indeedkho,
Sāriputtasāriputta,
fourcatasso
kinds of reproductionyoniyo.
And what is reproduction from an egg? There are beings who are born by breaking out of an eggshell. This is called reproduction from an egg. And what is reproduction from a womb? There are beings who are born by breaking out of the amniotic sac. This is called reproduction from a womb. And what is reproduction from moisture? There are beings who are born in a rotten fish, a rotten carcass, rotten porridge, a cesspool, or a sump. This is called reproduction from moisture. And what is spontaneous reproduction? Gods, hell-beings, certain humans, and certain beings in the lower realms. This is called spontaneous reproduction. These are the four kinds of reproduction.
whoeverYo
indeedkho
memaṁ,
Sāriputtasāriputta,
thusevaṁ
knowingjānantaṁ
thusevaṁ
seeingpassantaṁ
thusevaṁ
would sayvadeyya:
there is not‘natthi
of the asceticsamaṇassa
Gotamagotamassa
beyonduttari
the human normmanussadhammā
distinction in noble knowledge and visionalamariyañāṇadassanaviseso,
hammered out by logictakkapariyāhataṁ
the asceticsamaṇo
Gotamagotamo
the teachingdhammaṁ
teachesdeseti
following inquiryvīmaṁsānucaritaṁ
his own invention (quote)sayampaṭibhānan’ti,
thattaṁ,
Sāriputtasāriputta,
speechvācaṁ
without giving upappahāya
thattaṁ
thoughtcittaṁ
without giving upappahāya
thattaṁ
viewdiṭṭhiṁ
without relinquishingappaṭinissajjitvā
as if carried offyathābhataṁ
placednikkhitto
thusevaṁ
in hellniraye.
just asSeyyathāpi,
Sāriputtasāriputta,
a monkbhikkhu
accomplished in ethicssīlasampanno
accomplished in immersionsamādhisampanno
accomplished in wisdompaññāsampanno
in this verydiṭṭheva
lifedhamme
enlightenmentaññaṁ
would attainārādheyya,
suchevaṁ
is this consequencesampadamidaṁ,
Sāriputtasāriputta,
I sayvadāmi.
thatTaṁ
speechvācaṁ
without giving upappahāya
thattaṁ
thoughtcittaṁ
without giving upappahāya
thattaṁ
viewdiṭṭhiṁ
without relinquishingappaṭinissajjitvā
as if carried offyathābhataṁ
placednikkhitto
thusevaṁ
in hellniraye.
When I know and see in this way, suppose someone were to say this: ‘The ascetic Gotama has no superhuman distinction in knowledge and vision worthy of the noble ones …’ Unless they give up that speech and that thought, and let go of that view, they will be placed in hell as if delivered there.
fivePañca
indeedkho
theseimā,
Sāriputtasāriputta,
destinationsgatiyo.
whatKatamā
five?pañca?
hellNirayo,
the animal realmtiracchānayoni,
the ghost realmpettivisayo,
humansmanussā,
godsdevā.
There are these five destinations. What five? Hell, the animal realm, the ghost realm, humanity, and the gods.
and hell INirayañcāhaṁ,
Sāriputtasāriputta,
I understandpajānāmi,
and the hell-leadingnirayagāmiñca
pathmaggaṁ,
and the hell-leadingnirayagāminiñca
practicepaṭipadaṁ;
howyathā
one practicingpaṭipanno
andca
of the bodykāyassa
with the breakupbhedā
afterparaṁ
deathmaraṇā
in a place of lossapāyaṁ
a bad placeduggatiṁ
the underworldvinipātaṁ
hellnirayaṁ
is rebornupapajjati
that tootañca
I understandpajānāmi.
and the animal realm ITiracchānayoniñcāhaṁ,
Sāriputtasāriputta,
I understandpajānāmi,
and the animal-realm-leadingtiracchānayonigāmiñca
pathmaggaṁ,
and the animal-realm-leadingtiracchānayonigāminiñca
practicepaṭipadaṁ;
howyathā
one practicingpaṭipanno
andca
of the bodykāyassa
with the breakupbhedā
afterparaṁ
deathmaraṇā
in the animal realmtiracchānayoniṁ
is rebornupapajjati
that tootañca
I understandpajānāmi.
and the ghost realm IPettivisayañcāhaṁ,
Sāriputtasāriputta,
I understandpajānāmi,
and the ghost-realm-leadingpettivisayagāmiñca
pathmaggaṁ,
and the ghost-realm-leadingpettivisayagāminiñca
practicepaṭipadaṁ;
howyathā
one practicingpaṭipanno
andca
of the bodykāyassa
with the breakupbhedā
afterparaṁ
deathmaraṇā
in the ghost realmpettivisayaṁ
is rebornupapajjati
that tootañca
I understandpajānāmi.
humansManusse
and Icāhaṁ,
Sāriputtasāriputta,
I understandpajānāmi,
and the human-world-leadingmanussalokagāmiñca
pathmaggaṁ,
and the human-world-leadingmanussalokagāminiñca
practicepaṭipadaṁ;
howyathā
one practicingpaṭipanno
andca
of the bodykāyassa
with the breakupbhedā
afterparaṁ
deathmaraṇā
among humansmanussesu
is rebornupapajjati
that tootañca
I understandpajānāmi.
godsDeve
and Icāhaṁ,
Sāriputtasāriputta,
I understandpajānāmi,
and the god-world-leadingdevalokagāmiñca
pathmaggaṁ,
and the god-world-leadingdevalokagāminiñca
practicepaṭipadaṁ;
howyathā
one practicingpaṭipanno
andca
of the bodykāyassa
with the breakupbhedā
afterparaṁ
deathmaraṇā
in a good placesugatiṁ
heavenlysaggaṁ
worldlokaṁ
is rebornupapajjati
that tootañca
I understandpajānāmi.
and extinguishment INibbānañcāhaṁ,
Sāriputtasāriputta,
I understandpajānāmi,
and the extinguishment-leadingnibbānagāmiñca
pathmaggaṁ,
and the extinguishment-leadingnibbānagāminiñca
practicepaṭipadaṁ;
howyathā
one practicingpaṭipanno
andca
of defilementsāsavānaṁ
with the endingkhayā
the undefiledanāsavaṁ
freedom of heartcetovimuttiṁ
freedom by wisdompaññāvimuttiṁ
in this verydiṭṭheva
lifedhamme
himselfsayaṁ
with insightabhiññā
having realizedsacchikatvā
having attainedupasampajja
livesviharati
that tootañca
I understandpajānāmi.
I understand hell, and the path and practice that leads to hell. And I understand how someone practicing that way, when their body breaks up, after death, is reborn in a place of loss, a bad place, the underworld, hell. I understand the animal realm … the ghost realm … humanity … gods, and the path and practice that leads to the world of the gods. And I understand how someone practicing that way, when their body breaks up, after death, is reborn in a good place, a heavenly realm. And I understand extinguishment, and the path and practice that leads to extinguishment. And I understand how someone practicing that way realizes the undefiled freedom of heart and freedom by wisdom, and lives having realized it with their own insight in this very life due to the ending of defilements.
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