The Longer Analysis of Deeds · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral
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thatTaṁ
of whatkissa
is the cause?hetu?
otherwiseAññathā
indeedhi,
Ānanda,ānanda,
of the Realized Onetathāgatassa
in the great analysis of deedsmahākammavibhaṅge
knowledgeñāṇaṁ
ishoti.
Because the Realized One’s knowledge of the great analysis of deeds is otherwise.
in that case, ĀnandaTatrānanda,
that whichyvāyaṁ
asceticsamaṇo
orvā
brahminbrāhmaṇo
orvā
says thusevamāha:
there is‘atthi
it seemskira,
sirbho,
goodkalyāṇāni
deedskammāni,
there isatthi
of good conductsucaritassa
resultvipāko’ti
this for themidamassa
I grantanujānāmi;
and whichyampi
heso
says thusevamāha:
I‘amāhaṁ
individualpuggalaṁ
I saw — hereaddasaṁ—idha
from killing living creaturespāṇātipātā
refrainedpaṭivirataṁ
from taking what is not givenadinnādānā
refrainedpaṭivirataṁ
……pe…
right viewsammādiṭṭhiṁ,
of the bodykāyassa
after breakupbhedā
afterparaṁ
deathmaraṇā
I sawpassāmi
in a good destinationsugatiṁ
heavenlysaggaṁ
worldlokaṁ
rebornupapannan’ti
this for themidampissa
I grantanujānāmi;
but whichyañca
indeedkho
heso
says thusevamāha:
whoever‘yo
it seemskira,
sirbho,
from killing living creaturespāṇātipātā
refrainedpaṭivirato
from taking what is not givenadinnādānā
refrainedpaṭivirato
……pe…
right viewsammādiṭṭhi,
everysabbo
oneso
of the bodykāyassa
after breakupbhedā
afterparaṁ
deathmaraṇā
in a good destinationsugatiṁ
heavenlysaggaṁ
worldlokaṁ
is rebornupapajjatī’ti
this for themidamassa
I do not grantnānujānāmi;
and whichyampi
heso
says thusevamāha:
those who‘ye
thusevaṁ
knowjānanti
theyte
rightlysammā
knowjānanti;
those whoye
otherwiseaññathā
knowjānanti,
wronglymicchā
theirtesaṁ
knowledgeñāṇan’ti
this for themidampissa
I do not grantnānujānāmi;
In this case, when an ascetic or brahmin says this: ‘It seems that there is such a thing as good deeds, and the result of good conduct,’ I grant them that. And when they say: ‘I have seen an individual here who refrained from killing living creatures … and had right view. And I saw that they were reborn in a heavenly realm,’ I also grant them that. But when they say: ‘It seems that everyone who refrains from killing living creatures … and has right view is reborn in a heavenly realm,’ I don’t grant them that. …
whatever tooyampi
heso
whatever indeedyadeva
for himtassa
by himselfsāmaṁ
knownñātaṁ
by himselfsāmaṁ
seendiṭṭhaṁ
by himselfsāmaṁ
understoodviditaṁ
that indeedtadeva
theretattha
with firmnessthāmasā
with graspingparāmāsā
having settled uponabhinivissa
he declares:voharati:
this indeed‘idameva
truth,saccaṁ,
anything else is worthlessmoghamaññan’ti
this too for himidampissa
I do not approve.nānujānāmi.
thatTaṁ
of whatkissa
cause?hetu?
otherwiseAññathā
indeed,hi,
Ānanda,ānanda,
of the Realized Onetathāgatassa
in the great analysis of deedsmahākammavibhaṅge
knowledgeñāṇaṁ
is.hoti.
Because the Realized One’s knowledge of the great analysis of deeds is otherwise.
there, ĀnandaTatrānanda,
this whichyvāyaṁ
asceticsamaṇo
orvā
brahminbrāhmaṇo
orvā
says thusevamāha:
there is not‘natthi
it seemskira,
sirbho,
goodkalyāṇāni
deedskammāni,
there is notnatthi
of good conductsucaritassa
resultvipāko’ti
this for themidamassa
I do not grantnānujānāmi;
and whatyañca
indeedkho
heso
says thusevamāha:
I‘amāhaṁ
an individualpuggalaṁ
I saw—hereaddasaṁ—idha
from killing living creaturespāṇātipātā
refrainedpaṭivirataṁ
from taking what is not givenadinnādānā
refrainedpaṭivirataṁ
……pe…
possessing right viewsammādiṭṭhiṁ,
of the bodykāyassa
from the breaking upbhedā
afterparaṁ
from deathmaraṇā
I seepassāmi
a place of lossapāyaṁ
a bad destinationduggatiṁ
a downfallvinipātaṁ
hellnirayaṁ
rebornupapannan’ti
this for themidamassa
I grantanujānāmi;
and whatyañca
indeedkho
heso
says thusevamāha:
who‘yo
it seemskira,
sirbho,
from killing living creaturespāṇātipātā
refrainedpaṭivirato
from taking what is not givenadinnādānā
refrainedpaṭivirato
……pe…
possessing right viewsammādiṭṭhi,
everysabbo
heso
of the bodykāyassa
from the breaking upbhedā
afterparaṁ
from deathmaraṇā
a place of lossapāyaṁ
a bad destinationduggatiṁ
a downfallvinipātaṁ
hellnirayaṁ
is rebornupapajjatī’ti
this for themidamassa
I do not grantnānujānāmi;
and whatyañca
indeedkho
heso
says thusevamāha:
those who‘ye
thusevaṁ
knowjānanti
thosete
rightlysammā
knowjānanti;
those whoye
otherwiseaññathā
knowjānanti,
wrongmicchā
theirtesaṁ
notionñāṇan’ti
this also for themidampissa
I do not grantnānujānāmi;
In this case, when an ascetic or brahmin says this: ‘It seems that there is no such thing as good deeds, and the result of good conduct,’ I don’t grant them that. But when they say: ‘I have seen an individual here who refrained from killing living creatures … and had right view. And after death, they were reborn in hell,’ I grant them that. But when they say: ‘It seems that everyone who refrains from killing living creatures … and has right view is reborn in hell,’ I don’t grant them that. But when they say: ‘Those whose notion is this have the right notion. Those whose notion is otherwise have a wrong notion,’ I also don’t grant them that.
and whichyampi
theyso
that sameyadeva
of thattassa
for themselvessāmaṁ
knownñātaṁ
for themselvessāmaṁ
seendiṭṭhaṁ
for themselvessāmaṁ
understoodviditaṁ
that sametadeva
theretattha
obstinatelythāmasā
by graspingparāmāsā
having obstinately stuck toabhinivissa
they declarevoharati:
this is the only‘idameva
truthsaccaṁ,
anything else is futilemoghamaññan’ti
and thisidampissa
I do not grantnānujānāmi.
thatTaṁ
of whatkissa
is the causehetu?
otherwiseAññathā
becausehi,
Ānandaānanda,
of the Realized Onetathāgatassa
in the great analysis of deedsmahākammavibhaṅge
knowledgeñāṇaṁ
ishoti.
And when they obstinately stick to what they have known, seen, and understood for themselves, insisting that: ‘This is the only truth, anything else is futile,’ I also don’t grant them that. Why is that? Because the Realized One’s knowledge of the great analysis of deeds is otherwise.
there, Ānanda,Tatrānanda,
whichyvāyaṁ
personpuggalo
hereidha
one who kills living creaturespāṇātipātī
one who takes what is not givenadinnādāyī
…pe……pe…
of wrong viewmicchādiṭṭhi,
of the bodykāyassa
by breaking upbhedā
afterparaṁ
deathmaraṇā
to a place of lossapāyaṁ
to a bad placeduggatiṁ
to ruinvinipātaṁ
to hellnirayaṁ
is rebornupapajjati,
previouslypubbe
or for himvāssa
thattaṁ
donekataṁ
ishoti
bad kammapāpakammaṁ
to be experienced as painfuldukkhavedanīyaṁ,
afterwardspacchā
or for himvāssa
thattaṁ
donekataṁ
ishoti
bad kammapāpakammaṁ
to be experienced as painfuldukkhavedanīyaṁ,
at the time of deathmaraṇakāle
or for himvāssa
ishoti
wrong viewmicchādiṭṭhi
undertakensamattā
acceptedsamādinnā.
because of thatTena
heso
of the bodykāyassa
by breaking upbhedā
afterparaṁ
deathmaraṇā
to a place of lossapāyaṁ
to a bad placeduggatiṁ
to ruinvinipātaṁ
to hellnirayaṁ
is rebornupapajjati.
and whichYañca
indeedkho
heso
hereidha
one who kills living creaturespāṇātipātī
ishoti
one who takes what is not givenadinnādāyī
ishoti
…pe……pe…
wrong viewmicchādiṭṭhi
ishoti
of thattassa
in this very lifediṭṭheva
in the dhammadhamme
resultvipākaṁ
experiencespaṭisaṁvedeti
having been rebornupapajja
orvā
in anotherapare
orvā
in a subsequent periodpariyāye.
Now, Ānanda, take the case of the individual here who killed living creatures … and had wrong view, and who, when their body breaks up, after death, is reborn in a place of loss, a bad place, the underworld, hell. That bad deed of theirs that is to be experienced as painful was either done previously, or later, or else at the time of death they undertook wrong view. And that’s why, when their body breaks up, after death, they’re reborn in a place of loss, a bad place, the underworld, hell. But anyone here who kills living creatures … and has wrong view experiences the result of that in this very life, or in the next life, or in some subsequent period.
there, Ānanda,Tatrānanda,
who thisyvāyaṁ
individualpuggalo
hereidha
killing living creaturespāṇātipātī
taking what is not givenadinnādāyī
…pe……pe…
of wrong viewmicchādiṭṭhi
of the bodykāyassa
breaking upbhedā
afterparaṁ
deathmaraṇā
a good destinationsugatiṁ
heavenlysaggaṁ
worldlokaṁ
is rebornupapajjati,
previouslypubbe
or for themvāssa
thattaṁ
donekataṁ
ishoti
good deedkalyāṇakammaṁ
to be experienced as pleasurablesukhavedanīyaṁ,
laterpacchā
or for themvāssa
thattaṁ
donekataṁ
ishoti
good deedkalyāṇakammaṁ
to be experienced as pleasurablesukhavedanīyaṁ,
at the time of deathmaraṇakāle
or for themvāssa
there ishoti
right viewsammādiṭṭhi
undertakensamattā
undertakensamādinnā.
by thatTena
theyso
of the bodykāyassa
breaking upbhedā
afterparaṁ
deathmaraṇā
a good destinationsugatiṁ
heavenlysaggaṁ
worldlokaṁ
is rebornupapajjati.
and whatYañca
indeedkho
theyso
hereidha
killing living creaturespāṇātipātī
ishoti
taking what is not givenadinnādāyī
ishoti
…pe……pe…
of wrong viewmicchādiṭṭhi
ishoti
of thattassa
in this very lifediṭṭheva
in the dhammadhamme
resultvipākaṁ
experiencespaṭisaṁvedeti
having been rebornupapajja
orvā
in the nextapare
orvā
in some subsequent periodpariyāye.
Now, Ānanda, take the case of the individual here who killed living creatures … and had wrong view, and who is reborn in a heavenly realm. That good deed of theirs that is to be experienced as pleasurable was either done previously, or later, or else at the time of death they undertook right view. And that’s why, when their body breaks up, after death, they’re reborn in a good place, a heavenly realm. But anyone here who kills living creatures … and has wrong view experiences the result of that in this very life, or in the next life, or in some subsequent period.
there, ĀnandaTatrānanda,
that individualyvāyaṁ
individualpuggalo
hereidha
from killing living creaturespāṇātipātā
refrainedpaṭivirato
from taking what is not givenadinnādānā
refrainedpaṭivirato
……pe…
right viewsammādiṭṭhi,
of the bodykāyassa
breakupbhedā
afterparaṁ
deathmaraṇā
good destinationsugatiṁ
heavenly realmsaggaṁ
worldlokaṁ
is rebornupapajjati,
previouslypubbe
or of theirsvāssa
thattaṁ
donekataṁ
washoti
good deedkalyāṇakammaṁ
to be experienced as pleasurablesukhavedanīyaṁ,
laterpacchā
or of theirsvāssa
thattaṁ
donekataṁ
washoti
good deedkalyāṇakammaṁ
to be experienced as pleasurablesukhavedanīyaṁ,
at the time of deathmaraṇakāle
or of theirsvāssa
there ishoti
right viewsammādiṭṭhi
undertakensamattā
adoptedsamādinnā.
by thatTena
theyso
of the bodykāyassa
breakupbhedā
afterparaṁ
deathmaraṇā
good destinationsugatiṁ
heavenly realmsaggaṁ
worldlokaṁ
is rebornupapajjati.
and whatYañca
indeedkho
theyso
hereidha
from killing living creaturespāṇātipātā
refrainedpaṭivirato
ishoti
from taking what is not givenadinnādānā
refrainedpaṭivirato
ishoti
……pe…
right viewsammādiṭṭhi
hashoti,
of theirstassa
in this very lifediṭṭheva
in the Dhammadhamme
resultvipākaṁ
experiencespaṭisaṁvedeti
having been rebornupapajja
orvā
in a subsequentapare
orvā
periodpariyāye.
Now, Ānanda, take the case of the individual here who refrained from killing living creatures … and had right view, and who is reborn in a heavenly realm. That good deed of theirs that is to be experienced as pleasurable was either done previously, or later, or else at the time of death they undertook right view. And that’s why, when their body breaks up, after death, they’re reborn in a good place, a heavenly realm. But anyone here who refrains from killing living creatures … and has right view experiences the result of that in this very life, or in the next life, or in some subsequent period.
There, Ānanda,Tatrānanda,
whoever thisyvāyaṁ
individualpuggalo
hereidha
from killing living creaturespāṇātipātā
refrainedpaṭivirato
from taking what is not givenadinnādānā
refrainedpaṭivirato
……pe…
had right viewsammādiṭṭhi,
of the bodykāyassa
with the breaking upbhedā
afterparaṁ
deathmaraṇā
to a place of lossapāyaṁ
a bad placeduggatiṁ
the underworldvinipātaṁ
hellnirayaṁ
is rebornupapajjati,
previouslypubbe
or for themvāssa
thattaṁ
donekataṁ
washoti
bad deedpāpakammaṁ
to be experienced as painfuldukkhavedanīyaṁ,
laterpacchā
or for themvāssa
thattaṁ
donekataṁ
washoti
bad deedpāpakammaṁ
to be experienced as painfuldukkhavedanīyaṁ,
at the time of deathmaraṇakāle
or for themvāssa
there washoti
wrong viewmicchādiṭṭhi
undertakensamattā
adoptedsamādinnā.
thereforeTena
that oneso
of the bodykāyassa
with the breaking upbhedā
afterparaṁ
deathmaraṇā
to a place of lossapāyaṁ
a bad placeduggatiṁ
the underworldvinipātaṁ
hellnirayaṁ
is rebornupapajjati.
But whichYañca
indeedkho
that oneso
hereidha
from killing living creaturespāṇātipātā
refrainedpaṭivirato
ishoti,
from taking what is not givenadinnādānā
refrainedpaṭivirato
ishoti
……pe…
has right viewsammādiṭṭhi
ishoti,
of thattassa
in this very lifediṭṭheva
in the dhammadhamme
resultvipākaṁ
experiencespaṭisaṁvedeti
on being rebornupapajja
orvā
in the nextapare
orvā
in some subsequent periodpariyāye.
Now, Ānanda, take the case of the individual here who refrained from killing living creatures … and had right view, and who is reborn in hell. That bad deed of theirs that is to be experienced as painful was either done previously, or later, or else at the time of death they undertook wrong view. And that’s why, when their body breaks up, after death, they’re reborn in a place of loss, a bad place, the underworld, hell. But anyone here who refrains from killing living creatures … and has right view experiences the result of that in this very life, or in the next life, or in some subsequent period.
thusIti
indeedkho,
Ānandaānanda,
there isatthi
deedkammaṁ
ineffectiveabhabbaṁ
appearing ineffectiveabhabbābhāsaṁ,
there isatthi
deedkammaṁ
ineffectiveabhabbaṁ
appearing effectivebhabbābhāsaṁ,
there isatthi
deedkammaṁ
effective andbhabbañceva
and appearing effectivebhabbābhāsañca,
there isatthi
deedkammaṁ
effectivebhabbaṁ
appearing ineffective”,abhabbābhāsan”ti.
this saidIdamavoca
the Blessed Onebhagavā.
satisfiedAttamano
venerableāyasmā
Ānandaānando
of the Blessed Onebhagavato
speechbhāsitaṁ
approvedabhinandīti.
the Longer Analysis of Deeds DiscourseMahākammavibhaṅgasuttaṁ
finishedniṭṭhitaṁ
sixthchaṭṭhaṁ.
So, Ānanda, there are deeds that are ineffective and appear ineffective. There are deeds that are ineffective but appear effective. There are deeds that are effective and appear effective. And there are deeds that are effective but appear ineffective.” That is what the Buddha said. Satisfied, Venerable Ānanda approved what the Buddha said.
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