With the People of Nagaravinda · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral
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thusEvaṁ
by meme
heardsutaṁ—
oneekaṁ
timesamayaṁ
the Blessed Onebhagavā
among the Kosalanskosalesu
walking tourcārikaṁ
wanderingcaramāno
with a largemahatā
with a Saṅgha of mendicantsbhikkhusaṅghena
together withsaddhiṁ
whereyena
Nagaravindanagaravindaṁ
namednāma
of the Kosalanskosalānaṁ
of the brahminsbrāhmaṇānaṁ
villagegāmo
he arrived at ittadavasari.
they heardAssosuṁ
indeedkho
of Nagaravindanagaravindeyyakā
brahmins and householdersbrāhmaṇagahapatikā:
ascetic“samaṇo
it seemskhalu,
sirbho,
Gotamagotamo
a Sakyansakyaputto
from a Sakyan familysakyakulā
gone forthpabbajito
among the Kosalanskosalesu
wanderingcārikaṁ
while wanderingcaramāno
with a largemahatā
with a Saṅgha of mendicantsbhikkhusaṅghena
togethersaddhiṁ
to Nagaravindanagaravindaṁ
has arrivedanuppatto.
thisTaṁ
indeedkho
andpana
to the venerablebhavantaṁ
Gotamagotamaṁ
thusevaṁ
goodkalyāṇo
reputationkittisaddo
has arisenabbhuggato:
thus‘itipi
heso
Blessed Onebhagavā
perfectedarahaṁ
fully awakened Buddhasammāsambuddho
accomplished in knowledge and conductvijjācaraṇasampanno
holysugato
knower of the worldlokavidū
supremeanuttaro
guide for those fit for trainingpurisadammasārathi
teachersatthā
of gods and humansdevamanussānaṁ
awakenedbuddho
blessedbhagavā’ti.
heSo
thisimaṁ
worldlokaṁ
with its godssadevakaṁ
with its Mārassamārakaṁ
with its divinitiessabrahmakaṁ
with its ascetics and brahminssassamaṇabrāhmaṇiṁ
populationpajaṁ
with its gods and humanssadevamanussaṁ
with his own insightsayaṁ
by direct knowledgeabhiññā
having realizedsacchikatvā
he makes knownpavedeti.
heSo
Dhammadhammaṁ
he teachesdeseti
good in the beginningādikalyāṇaṁ
good in the middlemajjhekalyāṇaṁ
good in the endpariyosānakalyāṇaṁ
meaningfulsātthaṁ
well-phrasedsabyañjanaṁ,
entirely fullkevalaparipuṇṇaṁ
pureparisuddhaṁ
spiritual practicebrahmacariyaṁ
he revealspakāseti.
goodSādhu
indeedkho
andpana
of suchtathārūpānaṁ
perfected onesarahataṁ
seeingdassanaṁ
it ishotī”ti.
thenAtha indeedkho of Nagaravindanagaravindeyyakā brahmins and householdersbrāhmaṇagahapatikā whereyena the Blessed Onebhagavā they approachedtenupasaṅkamiṁsu; having approachedupasaṅkamitvā someappekacce the Blessed Onebhagavantaṁ having bowedabhivādetvā to one sideekamantaṁ they sat downnisīdiṁsu. someAppekacce with the Blessed Onebhagavatā togethersaddhiṁ they exchanged greetingssammodiṁsu; politesammodanīyaṁ conversationkathaṁ memorablesāraṇīyaṁ having exchangedvītisāretvā to one sideekamantaṁ they sat downnisīdiṁsu. someAppekacce whereyena the Blessed Onebhagavā cupped palmstenañjaliṁ having held uppaṇāmetvā to one sideekamantaṁ they sat downnisīdiṁsu. someAppekacce of the Blessed Onebhagavato in the presencesantike name and clannāmagottaṁ having announcedsāvetvā to one sideekamantaṁ they sat downnisīdiṁsu. someAppekacce silenttuṇhībhūtā to one sideekamantaṁ they sat downnisīdiṁsu. to one sideEkamantaṁ seatednisinne indeedkho of Nagaravindanagaravindeyyake brahmins and householdersbrāhmaṇagahapatike the Blessed Onebhagavā said thisetadavoca:
if“Sace
to youvo,
householdersgahapatayo,
of another religionaññatitthiyā
wanderersparibbājakā
thusevaṁ
should askpuccheyyuṁ:
of what kind‘kathaṁbhūtā,
householdersgahapatayo,
ascetics and brahminssamaṇabrāhmaṇā
notna
deserve honorsakkātabbā
notna
deserve respectgarukātabbā
notna
deserve reverencemānetabbā
notna
deserve venerationpūjetabbā’ti?
thusEvaṁ
askedpuṭṭhā
youtumhe,
householdersgahapatayo,
to thosetesaṁ
of another religionaññatitthiyānaṁ
wanderersparibbājakānaṁ
thusevaṁ
should answerbyākareyyātha:
who‘ye
thosete
ascetics and brahminssamaṇabrāhmaṇā
known by the eyecakkhuviññeyyesu
sightsrūpesu
not free of greedavītarāgā
not free of hateavītadosā
not free of delusionavītamohā,
internallyajjhattaṁ
minds not settledavūpasantacittā,
badly among the goodsamavisamaṁ
they conductcaranti
by bodykāyena
by speechvācāya
by mindmanasā,
suchevarūpā
ascetics and brahminssamaṇabrāhmaṇā
notna
deserve honorsakkātabbā
notna
deserve respectgarukātabbā
notna
deserve reverencemānetabbā
notna
deserve venerationpūjetabbā.
thatTaṁ
whatkissa
reasonhetu?
we ourselvesMayampi
indeedhi
known by the eyecakkhuviññeyyesu
sightsrūpesu
not free of greedavītarāgā
not free of hateavītadosā
not free of delusionavītamohā,
internallyajjhattaṁ
minds not settledavūpasantacittā,
badly among the goodsamavisamaṁ
we conductcarāma
by bodykāyena
by speechvācāya
by mindmanasā,
than themtesaṁ
for usno
even good conductsamacariyampi
thishetaṁ
higheruttari
not seeingapassataṁ.
thereforeTasmā
thosete
good sirsbhonto
ascetics and brahminssamaṇabrāhmaṇā
notna
deserve honorsakkātabbā
notna
deserve respectgarukātabbā
notna
deserve reverencemānetabbā
notna
deserve venerationpūjetabbā.
whoYe
thosete
ascetics and brahminssamaṇabrāhmaṇā
known by the earsotaviññeyyesu
soundssaddesu
……
known by the noseghānaviññeyyesu
smellsgandhesu
……
known by the tonguejivhāviññeyyesu
tastesrasesu
……
in forms known by bodykāyaviññeyyesu
in touchesphoṭṭhabbesu
……
in forms known by mindmanoviññeyyesu
in ideasdhammesu
not free of greedavītarāgā
not free of hatredavītadosā
not free of delusion,avītamohā,
internallyajjhattaṁ
with unsettled mind,avūpasantacittā,
badly among the goodsamavisamaṁ
they conductcaranti
by bodykāyena
by speechvācāya
by mind,manasā,
suchevarūpā
ascetics and brahminssamaṇabrāhmaṇā
notna
to be honoredsakkātabbā
notna
to be respectedgarukātabbā
notna
to be reveredmānetabbā
notna
to be venerated.pūjetabbā.
thatTaṁ
of whatkissa
reason?hetu?
we ourselves tooMayampi
indeedhi
in forms known by mindmanoviññeyyesu
in ideasdhammesu
not free of greedavītarāgā
not free of hatredavītadosā
not free of delusion,avītamohā,
internallyajjhattaṁ
with unsettled mind,avūpasantacittā,
badly among the goodsamavisamaṁ
we conductcarāma
by bodykāyena
by speechvācāya
by mind,manasā,
of themtesaṁ
for usno
even good conductsamacariyampi
thishetaṁ
higheruttari
of not seeingapassataṁ.
thereforeTasmā
thosete
sirsbhonto
ascetics and brahminssamaṇabrāhmaṇā
notna
to be honoredsakkātabbā
notna
to be respectedgarukātabbā
notna
to be reveredmānetabbā
notna
to be venerated.'pūjetabbā’ti.
thusEvaṁ
askedpuṭṭhā
youtumhe,
householders,gahapatayo,
of thosetesaṁ
of other religionsaññatitthiyānaṁ
of wanderersparibbājakānaṁ
thusevaṁ
you should answer.byākareyyātha.
ifSace
thenpana
to youvo,
householdersgahapatayo,
of other religionsaññatitthiyā
wanderersparibbājakā
thusevaṁ
might askpuccheyyuṁ:
of what kind‘kathaṁbhūtā,
householdersgahapatayo,
ascetics and brahminssamaṇabrāhmaṇā
to be honoredsakkātabbā
to be respectedgarukātabbā
to be reveredmānetabbā
to be veneratedpūjetabbā’ti?
thusEvaṁ
askedpuṭṭhā
youtumhe,
householdersgahapatayo,
to thosetesaṁ
of other religionsaññatitthiyānaṁ
wanderersparibbājakānaṁ
thusevaṁ
you should answerbyākareyyātha:
who‘ye
thosete
ascetics and brahminssamaṇabrāhmaṇā
in sights known by the eyecakkhuviññeyyesu
in formsrūpesu
free of greedvītarāgā
free of hatevītadosā
free of delusionvītamohā,
internallyajjhattaṁ
with settled mindsvūpasantacittā,
good conductsamacariyaṁ
they conductcaranti
by bodykāyena
by speechvācāya
by mindmanasā,
suchevarūpā
ascetics and brahminssamaṇabrāhmaṇā
to be honoredsakkātabbā
to be respectedgarukātabbā
to be reveredmānetabbā
to be veneratedpūjetabbā.
thatTaṁ
of whatkissa
reasonhetu?
we tooMayampi
indeedhi
in sights known by the eyecakkhuviññeyyesu
in formsrūpesu
not free of greedavītarāgā
not free of hateavītadosā
not free of delusionavītamohā,
internallyajjhattaṁ
with unsettled mindsavūpasantacittā,
uneven conductsamavisamaṁ
we conductcarāma
by bodykāyena
by speechvācāya
by mindmanasā,
of thosetesaṁ
for usno
even good conductsamacariyampi
thishetaṁ
higheruttari
seeingpassataṁ.
thereforeTasmā
thosete
sirsbhonto
ascetics and brahminssamaṇabrāhmaṇā
to be honoredsakkātabbā
to be respectedgarukātabbā
to be reveredmānetabbā
to be veneratedpūjetabbā.
whoYe
thosete
ascetics and brahminssamaṇabrāhmaṇā
in sounds known by the earsotaviññeyyesu
in soundssaddesu
……
in smells known by the noseghānaviññeyyesu
in smellsgandhesu
……
in tastes known by the tonguejivhāviññeyyesu
in tastesrasesu
……
in touches known by the bodykāyaviññeyyesu
in touchesphoṭṭhabbesu
……
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