Mahātaṇhāsaṅkhayasutta

Majjhima Nikāya 38

Mahātaṇhāsaṅkhayasutta

The Longer Discourse on the Ending of Craving · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral

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thusEvaṁ by meme heardsutaṁ—
oneekaṁ timesamayaṁ the Blessed Onebhagavā at Sāvatthīsāvatthiyaṁ was stayingviharati in Jeta's Grovejetavane of Anāthapiṇḍikaanāthapiṇḍikassa in the monasteryārāme.

So I have heard. At one time the Buddha was staying near Sāvatthī in Jeta’s Grove, Anāthapiṇḍika’s monastery.

at thatTena indeedkho thenpana at the timesamayena of Sātisātissa namednāma of the bhikkhubhikkhuno fisherman·sonkevaṭṭaputtassa just·formevarūpaṁ harmfulpāpakaṁ view·gonediṭṭhigataṁ up·goneuppannaṁ there washoti:
as I“tathāhaṁ by the Blessed Onebhagavatā the teachingdhammaṁ taughtdesitaṁ to·knowājānāmi thatyathā this very sametadevidaṁ apart·knowingviññāṇaṁ together·runsandhāvati together·flowsaṁsarati not·otheranaññan”ti.

Now at that time a mendicant named Sāti, the fisherman’s son, had the following harmful misconception: “As I understand the Buddha’s teaching, it is this very same consciousness that roams and transmigrates, not another.”

they heardAssosuṁ indeedkho together·manysambahulā mendicants:bhikkhū:
of Sāti“sātissa so they saykira indeednāma to the mendicantbhikkhuno fisherman·sonkevaṭṭaputtassa just·formevarūpaṁ harmfulpāpakaṁ view·gonediṭṭhigataṁ has arisen:uppannaṁ:
so I‘tathāhaṁ by the Buddhabhagavatā the teachingdhammaṁ taughtdesitaṁ toward·knowājānāmi thatyathā this same consciousnesstadevidaṁ consciousnessviññāṇaṁ roamssandhāvati transmigrates,saṁsarati, not another,'"anaññan’”ti.
thenAtha indeedkho thosete mendicantsbhikkhū whereyena Sātisāti the mendicantbhikkhu fisherman·sonkevaṭṭaputto they approachedtenupasaṅkamiṁsu; near·goupasaṅkamitvā to Sātisātiṁ the mendicantbhikkhuṁ fisherman·sonkevaṭṭaputtaṁ this + sayetadavocuṁ:
true“saccaṁ so they saykira to you,te, reverendāvuso Sāti,sāti, just·formevarūpaṁ harmfulpāpakaṁ view·gonediṭṭhigataṁ has arisen:uppannaṁ:
so I‘tathāhaṁ by the Buddhabhagavatā the teachingdhammaṁ taughtdesitaṁ toward·knowājānāmi thatyathā this same consciousnesstadevidaṁ consciousnessviññāṇaṁ roamssandhāvati transmigrates,saṁsarati, not another,'"?anaññan’”ti?
indeed,“Evaṁ certainlybyā indeedkho I,ahaṁ, reverends,āvuso, by the Buddhabhagavatā the teachingdhammaṁ taughtdesitaṁ toward·knowājānāmi thatyathā this same consciousnesstadevidaṁ consciousnessviññāṇaṁ roamssandhāvati transmigrates,saṁsarati, not another."anaññan”ti.
thenAtha indeedkho thosete mendicantsbhikkhū Sātisātiṁ the mendicantbhikkhuṁ fisherman·sonkevaṭṭaputtaṁ from thisetasmā harmfulpāpakā view·gonediṭṭhigatā apart·dissuade·wishingvivecetukāmā together·pursuesamanuyuñjanti together·presssamanugāhanti together·grillsamanubhāsanti:

Several mendicants heard this rumour. They went up to Sāti and said to him, “Is it really true, Reverend Sāti, that you have such a harmful misconception: ‘As I understand the Buddha’s teaching, it is this very same consciousness that roams and transmigrates, not another’?” “Indeed, reverends. As I understand the Buddha’s teaching, it is this very same consciousness that roams and transmigrates, not another.” Then, wishing to dissuade Sāti from his view, the mendicants pursued, pressed, and grilled him,

do not“mā thusevaṁ, friendāvuso Sātisāti, you saidavaca, do notmā blessed·acc.sgbhagavantaṁ misrepresentabbhācikkhi, notna indeedhi goodsādhu of the Blessed Onebhagavato misrepresentationabbhakkhānaṁ, notna indeedhi the Blessed Onebhagavā thusevaṁ would sayvadeyya.
in many ways, friendAnekapariyāyenāvuso Sātisāti, dependent·originated·acc.sgpaṭiccasamuppannaṁ consciousness·nom.sgviññāṇaṁ said·nom.sgvuttaṁ by the Blessed Onebhagavatā, apart fromaññatra a conditionpaccayā there is notnatthi consciousness·gen.sgviññāṇassa coming to besambhavo”ti.
thus·evenEvampi indeedkho Sātisāti the bhikkhubhikkhu Kevaṭṭaputtakevaṭṭaputto that·instr.pltehi by the bhikkhusbhikkhūhi being pressedsamanuyuñjiyamāno being interrogatedsamanugāhiyamāno being admonishedsamanubhāsiyamāno that·verytadeva evil·acc.sgpāpakaṁ view·acc.sgdiṭṭhigataṁ with obstinacythāmasā by graspingparāmāsā toward·down·adheredabhinivissa speaksvoharati:
thus“evaṁ byābyā indeedkho Iahaṁ, friendāvuso, by the Blessed Onebhagavatā dhamma·acc.sgdhammaṁ taught·acc.sgdesitaṁ to·know·1sgājānāmi asyathā that very sametadevidaṁ consciousness·nom.sgviññāṇaṁ runs·3sgsandhāvati wanders·3sgsaṁsarati not anotheranaññan”ti.

“Don’t say that, Sāti! Don’t misrepresent the Buddha, for misrepresentation of the Buddha is not good. And the Buddha would not say that. In many ways the Buddha has said that consciousness is dependently originated, that without a cause, consciousness does not come to be.” But even though the mendicants pressed him in this way, Sāti obstinately stuck to his misconception and insisted on it.

whenYato indeedkho thosete mendicantsbhikkhū were not ablenāsakkhiṁsu Sātisātiṁ monkbhikkhuṁ Kevaṭṭa's sonkevaṭṭaputtaṁ from thisetasmā evilpāpakā viewdiṭṭhigatā to dissuadevivecetuṁ, thenatha indeedkho thosete mendicantsbhikkhū whereyena the Buddhabhagavā approached himtenupasaṅkamiṁsu; having approachedupasaṅkamitvā the Buddhabhagavantaṁ having bowedabhivādetvā to one sideekamantaṁ sat downnisīdiṁsu. to one sideEkamantaṁ seatednisinnā indeedkho thosete mendicantsbhikkhū the Buddhabhagavantaṁ said thisetadavocuṁ:
to Sāti“sātissa namednāma, reverend sirbhante, monkbhikkhuno Kevaṭṭa's sonkevaṭṭaputtassa suchevarūpaṁ evilpāpakaṁ viewdiṭṭhigataṁ arisenuppannaṁ:
thus I‘tathāhaṁ by the Buddhabhagavatā dhammadhammaṁ taughtdesitaṁ I understandājānāmi asyathā this sametadevidaṁ consciousnessviññāṇaṁ wanders onsandhāvati transmigratessaṁsarati, not anotheranaññan’ti.
we heardAssumha indeedkho wemayaṁ, reverend sirbhante, of Sātisātissa it seemskira namednāma monkbhikkhuno Kevaṭṭa's sonkevaṭṭaputtassa suchevarūpaṁ evilpāpakaṁ viewdiṭṭhigataṁ arisenuppannaṁ:
thus I‘tathāhaṁ by the Buddhabhagavatā dhammadhammaṁ taughtdesitaṁ I understandājānāmi asyathā this sametadevidaṁ consciousnessviññāṇaṁ wanders onsandhāvati transmigratessaṁsarati, not anotheranaññan’ti.
thenAtha indeedkho wemayaṁ, reverend sirbhante, whereyena Sātisāti monkbhikkhu Kevaṭṭa's sonkevaṭṭaputto approached himtenupasaṅkamimha; having approachedupasaṅkamitvā Sātisātiṁ monkbhikkhuṁ Kevaṭṭa's sonkevaṭṭaputtaṁ said thisetadavocumha:
is it true‘saccaṁ it seemskira yourte, friendāvuso Sātisāti, suchevarūpaṁ evilpāpakaṁ viewdiṭṭhigataṁ arisenuppannaṁ:

When they weren’t able to dissuade Sāti from his view, the mendicants went to the Buddha, bowed, sat down to one side, and told him what had happened.

thus I“tathāhaṁ by the Blessed Onebhagavatā the teachingdhammaṁ taughtdesitaṁ toward·knowājānāmi thatyathā this same verytadevidaṁ consciousnessviññāṇaṁ along·runsandhāvati wanders onsaṁsarati, not anotheranaññan”’ti?
thusEvaṁ when saidvutte, venerable sirbhante, Sātisāti monkbhikkhu Kevaṭṭa·sonkevaṭṭaputto to usamhe said thisetadavoca:
thus‘evaṁ indeedbyā indeedkho Iahaṁ, friendāvuso, by the Blessed Onebhagavatā the teachingdhammaṁ taughtdesitaṁ toward·knowājānāmi thatyathā this same verytadevidaṁ consciousnessviññāṇaṁ along·runsandhāvati wanders onsaṁsarati, not anotheranaññan’ti.
thenAtha indeedkho wemayaṁ, venerable sirbhante, Sātisātiṁ monkbhikkhuṁ Kevaṭṭa·sonkevaṭṭaputtaṁ from thisetasmā evilpāpakā view·gonediṭṭhigatā apart·separatevivecetukāmā together·along·questionsamanuyuñjimha together·along·graspsamanugāhimha we admonishedsamanubhāsimha:
do not‘mā thusevaṁ, friendāvuso Sātisāti, speakavaca, do notmā the Blessed Onebhagavantaṁ misrepresentabbhācikkhi, notna indeedhi goodsādhu of the Blessed Onebhagavato false accusationabbhakkhānaṁ, notna indeedhi the Blessed Onebhagavā thusevaṁ would sayvadeyya.
in many ways friendAnekapariyāyenāvuso Sātisāti, dependent·arisenpaṭiccasamuppannaṁ consciousnessviññāṇaṁ is saidvuttaṁ by the Blessed Onebhagavatā, apart fromaññatra a conditionpaccayā there is notnatthi of consciousnessviññāṇassa arisingsambhavo’ti.
but even soEvampi indeedkho, venerable sirbhante, Sātisāti monkbhikkhu Kevaṭṭa·sonkevaṭṭaputto by usamhehi together·along·questionedsamanuyuñjiyamāno together·along·graspedsamanugāhiyamāno together·along·spokensamanubhāsiyamāno that·sametadeva evilpāpakaṁ view·gonediṭṭhigataṁ stubbornlythāmasā graspingparāmasā toward·adhereabhinivissa he declaresvoharati:

“Thus I understand the teaching taught by the Blessed One: that it is this very same consciousness that runs on and wanders on, not another’?” When this was said, venerable sir, the monk Sāti, son of Kevaṭṭa, said this to us: “Indeed, friends, thus I understand the teaching taught by the Blessed One: that it is this very same consciousness that runs on and wanders on, not another.” Then, venerable sir, wishing to dissuade the monk Sāti, son of Kevaṭṭa, from that evil wrong view, we questioned him, pressed him, and admonished him: “Do not speak thus, friend Sāti. Do not misrepresent the Blessed One, for it is not good to falsely accuse the Blessed One, for the Blessed One would not say so. In many ways, friend Sāti, consciousness is said by the Blessed One to be dependently arisen; apart from a condition there is no arising of consciousness.” But even so, venerable sir, the monk Sāti, son of Kevaṭṭa, being questioned, pressed, and admonished by us, stubbornly grasping that very evil wrong view and adhering to it, declared:

thus‘evaṁ indeedbyā indeedkho Iahaṁ, friendāvuso, by the Blessed Onebhagavatā the doctrinedhammaṁ taughtdesitaṁ toward·knowājānāmi asyathā that·very + thistadevidaṁ apart·knowviññāṇaṁ together·runsandhāvati wanders onsaṁsarati, not anotheranaññan’ti.
sinceYato indeedkho wemayaṁ, venerable sirbhante, we could notnāsakkhimha the monk Sātisātiṁ the monkbhikkhuṁ fisherman·sonkevaṭṭaputtaṁ from thisetasmā evilpāpakā wrong viewdiṭṭhigatā to dissuadevivecetuṁ, thenatha wemayaṁ this·matteretamatthaṁ to the Blessed Onebhagavato we reportārocemā”ti.

“Thus, friend, I understand the doctrine taught by the Blessed One: it is this very consciousness that runs on and wanders on, not another.” Since we, venerable sir, were unable to dissuade the monk Sāti, son of a fisherman, from this evil wrong view, then we reported this matter to the Blessed One.

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