The Inquirer · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral
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Tatra,
bhikkhave,
tathāgatova
uttariṁ
paṭipucchitabbo:
‘ye
saṅkiliṭṭhā
cakkhusotaviññeyyā
dhammā,
saṁvijjanti
vā
te
tathāgatassa
no
vā’ti?
Byākaramāno,
bhikkhave,
tathāgato
evaṁ
byākareyya:
‘ye
saṅkiliṭṭhā
cakkhusotaviññeyyā
dhammā,
na
te
tathāgatassa
saṁvijjantī’ti.
Next, they should ask the Realized One himself about this, ‘Can anything corrupt be seen or heard in the Realized One or not?’ The Realized One would answer, ‘Nothing corrupt can be seen or heard in the Realized One.’
‘Ye
vītimissā
cakkhusotaviññeyyā
dhammā,
saṁvijjanti
vā
te
tathāgatassa
no
vā’ti?
Byākaramāno,
bhikkhave,
tathāgato
evaṁ
byākareyya:
‘ye
vītimissā
cakkhusotaviññeyyā
dhammā,
na
te
tathāgatassa
saṁvijjantī’ti.
‘Can anything mixed be seen or heard in the Realized One or not?’ The Realized One would answer, ‘Nothing mixed can be seen or heard in the Realized One.’
‘Ye
vodātā
cakkhusotaviññeyyā
dhammā,
saṁvijjanti
vā
te
tathāgatassa
no
vā’ti?
Byākaramāno,
bhikkhave,
tathāgato
evaṁ
byākareyya:
‘ye
vodātā
cakkhusotaviññeyyā
dhammā,
saṁvijjanti
te
tathāgatassa;
etaṁ
pathohamasmi,
etaṁ
gocaro,
no
ca
tena
tammayo’ti.
‘Can anything clean be seen or heard in the Realized One or not?’ The Realized One would answer, ‘Clean things can be seen and heard in the Realized One. I am the scope and the range of that, but I am not determined by that.’
Evaṁvādiṁ
kho,
bhikkhave,
satthāraṁ
arahati
sāvako
upasaṅkamituṁ
dhammassavanāya.
Tassa
satthā
dhammaṁ
deseti
uttaruttariṁ
paṇītapaṇītaṁ
kaṇhasukkasappaṭibhāgaṁ.
Yathā
yathā
kho,
bhikkhave,
bhikkhuno
satthā
dhammaṁ
deseti
uttaruttariṁ
paṇītapaṇītaṁ
kaṇhasukkasappaṭibhāgaṁ
tathā
tathā
so
tasmiṁ
dhamme
abhiññāya
idhekaccaṁ
dhammaṁ
dhammesu
niṭṭhaṁ
gacchati,
satthari
pasīdati:
‘sammāsambuddho
bhagavā,
svākkhāto
bhagavatā
dhammo,
suppaṭipanno
saṅgho’ti.
A disciple ought to approach a teacher who has such a doctrine in order to listen to the teaching. The teacher explains Dhamma with its higher and higher stages, with its better and better stages, with its dark and bright sides. When they directly know a certain principle of those teachings, in accordance with how they were taught, the mendicant comes to a conclusion about the teachings. They have confidence in the Teacher: ‘The Blessed One is a fully awakened Buddha! The teaching is well explained! The Saṅgha is practicing well!’
Tañce,
bhikkhave,
bhikkhuṁ
pare
evaṁ
puccheyyuṁ:
‘ke
panāyasmato
ākārā,
ke
anvayā,
yenāyasmā
evaṁ
vadesi—
sammāsambuddho
bhagavā,
svākkhāto
bhagavatā
dhammo,
suppaṭipanno
saṅgho’ti?
Sammā
byākaramāno,
bhikkhave,
bhikkhu
evaṁ
byākareyya:
‘idhāhaṁ,
āvuso,
yena
bhagavā
tenupasaṅkamiṁ
dhammassavanāya.
Tassa
me
bhagavā
dhammaṁ
deseti
uttaruttariṁ
paṇītapaṇītaṁ
kaṇhasukkasappaṭibhāgaṁ.
Yathā
yathā
me,
āvuso,
bhagavā
dhammaṁ
deseti
uttaruttariṁ
paṇītapaṇītaṁ
kaṇhasukkasappaṭibhāgaṁ
tathā
tathāhaṁ
tasmiṁ
dhamme
abhiññāya
idhekaccaṁ
dhammaṁ
dhammesu
niṭṭhamagamaṁ,
satthari
pasīdiṁ—
sammāsambuddho
bhagavā,
svākkhāto
bhagavatā,
dhammo,
suppaṭipanno
saṅgho’ti.
If others should ask that mendicant, ‘But what reason and evidence does the venerable have for saying this?’ Answering rightly, the mendicant should say, ‘Reverends, I approached the Buddha to listen to the teaching. He explained Dhamma with its higher and higher stages, with its better and better stages, with its dark and bright sides. When I directly knew a certain principle of those teachings, in accordance with how I was taught, I came to a conclusion about the teachings. I had confidence in the Teacher: “The Blessed One is a fully awakened Buddha! The teaching is well explained! The Saṅgha is practicing well!”’
Yassa
kassaci,
bhikkhave,
imehi
ākārehi
imehi
padehi
imehi
byañjanehi
tathāgate
saddhā
niviṭṭhā
hoti
mūlajātā
patiṭṭhitā,
ayaṁ
vuccati,
bhikkhave,
ākāravatī
saddhā
dassanamūlikā;
daḷhā
asaṁhāriyā
samaṇena
vā
brāhmaṇena
vā
devena
vā
mārena
vā
brahmunā
vā
kenaci
vā
lokasmiṁ.
Evaṁ
kho,
bhikkhave,
tathāgate
dhammasamannesanā
hoti.
Evañca
pana
tathāgato
dhammatāsusamanniṭṭho
hotī”ti.
Idamavoca
bhagavā.
Attamanā
te
bhikkhū
bhagavato
bhāsitaṁ
abhinandunti.
Vīmaṁsakasuttaṁ
niṭṭhitaṁ
sattamaṁ.
When someone’s faith is settled, rooted, and planted in the Realized One in this manner, with these words and phrases, it’s said to be grounded faith that’s based on evidence. It is strong, and cannot be shifted by any ascetic or brahmin or god or Māra or divinity or by anyone in the world. That is how there is legitimate scrutiny of the Realized One, and that is how the Realized One is legitimately well-scrutinized.” That is what the Buddha said. Satisfied, the mendicants approved what the Buddha said.
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