With Upāli · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral
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even ten“Dasapi,
sirbhante,
menpurisā,
even twentyvīsampi,
sirbhante,
menpurisā,
even thirtytiṁsampi,
sirbhante,
menpurisā,
even fortycattārīsampi,
sirbhante,
menpurisā,
even fiftypaññāsampi,
sirbhante,
menpurisā
not·are ablenappahonti
as many asyāvatikā
of thisimissā
Nāḷandānāḷandāya
living beingspāṇā
thosete
with oneekena
momentkhaṇena
with oneekena
instantmuhuttena
oneekaṁ
flesh·massmaṁsakhalaṁ
oneekaṁ
flesh·heapmaṁsapuñjaṁ
to makekātuṁ.
howKiñhi
shinessobhati
oneeko
measlychavo
manpuriso”ti.
that“Taṁ
whatkiṁ
do you thinkmaññasi,
householdergahapati,
hereidha
to·comeāgaccheyya
an asceticsamaṇo
orvā
a brahminbrāhmaṇo
orvā
with psychic poweriddhimā
who has achieved mastery of the mindcetovasippatto.
heSo
thusevaṁ
would sayvadeyya:
I‘ahaṁ
thisimaṁ
Nāḷandānāḷandaṁ
with oneekena
mind·malevolencemanopadosena
to ashesbhasmaṁ
I will makekarissāmī’ti.
thatTaṁ
whatkiṁ
do you thinkmaññasi,
householdergahapati,
is ablepahoti
indeednu
indeedkho
heso
an asceticsamaṇo
orvā
a brahminbrāhmaṇo
orvā
with psychic poweriddhimā
mind·mastery·achievedcetovasippatto
thisimaṁ
Nāḷandānāḷandaṁ
with oneekena
mind·malevolencemanopadosena
to ashesbhasmaṁ
to makekātun”ti?
even ten“Dasapi,
sirbhante,
Nāḷandāsnāḷandā,
even twentyvīsampi
Nāḷandāsnāḷandā,
even thirtytiṁsampi
Nāḷandāsnāḷandā,
even fortycattārīsampi
Nāḷandāsnāḷandā,
even fiftypaññāsampi
Nāḷandāsnāḷandā
is ablepahoti
heso
an asceticsamaṇo
orvā
a brahminbrāhmaṇo
orvā
with psychic poweriddhimā
mind·mastery·achievedcetovasippatto
with oneekena
mind·malevolencemanopadosena
to ashesbhasmaṁ
to makekātuṁ.
what indeedKiñhi
shinessobhati
oneekā
measlychavā
Nāḷandā” quotation markernāḷandā”ti.
mind“Manasi
makekarohi,
householdergahapati,
mindmanasi
having madekaritvā
indeedkho,
householdergahapati,
answerbyākarohi.
notNa
indeedkho
to youte
agreessandhiyati
with the formerpurimena
orvā
the latterpacchimaṁ,
with the latterpacchimena
orvā
the formerpurimaṁ.
spokenBhāsitā
indeedkho
butpana
by youte,
householdergahapati,
thisesā
wordvācā:
truth‘sacce
Iahaṁ,
sirbhante,
having establishedpatiṭṭhāya
will discussmantessāmi;
let there behotu
ourno
hereettha
conversation” quotation markerkathāsallāpo’”ti.
though“Kiñcāpi,
sirbhante,
the Blessed Onebhagavā
speaks thusevamāha,
thenatha
indeedkho
physical rodkāyadaṇḍova
most blameworthymahāsāvajjataro
of badpāpassa
of kammakammassa
for the performancekiriyāya
of badpāpassa
of kammakammassa
for the productionpavattiyā,
notno
sotathā
verbal rodvacīdaṇḍo,
notno
sotathā
mental rod” quotation markermanodaṇḍo”ti.
that“Taṁ
whatkiṁ
do you thinkmaññasi,
householdergahapati,
heardsutaṁ
by youte
Daṇḍaka wildernessdaṇḍakīraññaṁ
Kāliṅga wildernesskāliṅgāraññaṁ
Mejjha wildernessmajjhāraññaṁ
Mātaṅga wildernessmātaṅgāraññaṁ
wildernessaraññaṁ
became wilderness” quotation markeraraññabhūtan”ti?
yes“Evaṁ,
sirbhante,
heardsutaṁ
by meme
Daṇḍaka wildernessdaṇḍakīraññaṁ
Kāliṅga wildernesskāliṅgāraññaṁ
Mejjha wildernessmajjhāraññaṁ
Mātaṅga wildernessmātaṅgāraññaṁ
wildernessaraññaṁ
became wilderness” quotation markeraraññabhūtan”ti.
that“Taṁ
what?kiṁ
you thinkmaññasi,
householdergahapati,
what?kinti
by youte
heardsutaṁ
by whatkena
thattaṁ
Daṇḍaka wildernessdaṇḍakīraññaṁ
Kaliṅga·wildernesskāliṅgāraññaṁ
Mejjha·wildernessmajjhāraññaṁ
Mātaṅga·wildernessmātaṅgāraññaṁ
wildernessaraññaṁ
became wildernessaraññabhūtan”ti?
heard“Sutaṁ
this by memetaṁ,
venerable sirbhante,
of seersisīnaṁ
mind·malevolencemanopadosena
thattaṁ
Daṇḍaka·wildernessdaṇḍakīraññaṁ
Kaliṅga·wildernesskāliṅgāraññaṁ
Mejjha·wildernessmajjhāraññaṁ
Mātaṅga·wildernessmātaṅgāraññaṁ
wildernessaraññaṁ
became wildernessaraññabhūtan”ti.
attention“Manasi
make!karohi,
householdergahapati,
attentionmanasi
having madekaritvā
indeedkho,
householdergahapati,
answer!byākarohi.
notNa
indeedkho
for youte
agree·causesandhiyati
with formerpurimena
orvā
laterpacchimaṁ,
with laterpacchimena
orvā
formerpurimaṁ.
spokenBhāsitā
indeedkho
butpana
by youte,
householdergahapati,
thisesā
sayingvācā:
in truth‘sacce
Iahaṁ,
venerable sirbhante,
on·standpatiṭṭhāya
I will debatemantessāmi;
let behotu
for usno
hereettha
talk and conversationkathāsallāpo’”ti.
by the very first simile I“Purimenevāhaṁ,
sirbhante,
by the simileopammena
of the Blessed Onebhagavato
delightedattamano
satisfiedabhiraddho.
butApi
and Icāhaṁ
theseimāni
of the Blessed Onebhagavato
variousvicitrāni
solutions to questionspañhapaṭibhānāni
wishing to hearsotukāmo,
so Ievāhaṁ
the Blessed Onebhagavantaṁ
as an adversarypaccanīkaṁ
to be madekātabbaṁ
I thoughtamaññissaṁ.
excellentAbhikkantaṁ,
sirbhante,
excellentabhikkantaṁ,
sirbhante.
just asSeyyathāpi,
sirbhante,
overturnednikkujjitaṁ
orvā
might set uprightukkujjeyya,
hiddenpaṭicchannaṁ
orvā
might revealvivareyya,
to one lostmūḷhassa
orvā
the pathmaggaṁ
might point outācikkheyya,
in the darkandhakāre
orvā
an oil lamptelapajjotaṁ
might holddhāreyya:
those with eyes‘cakkhumanto
formsrūpāni
will seedakkhantī’ti;
just soevamevaṁ
by the Blessed Onebhagavatā
in many waysanekapariyāyena
the teachingdhammo
made clearpakāsito.
this IEsāhaṁ,
sirbhante,
to the Blessed Onebhagavantaṁ
as refugesaraṇaṁ
I gogacchāmi
and to the teachingdhammañca
and to the mendicant Saṅghabhikkhusaṅghañca.
as a lay followerUpāsakaṁ
memaṁ
may the Blessed Onebhagavā
rememberdhāretu
from this day onwardajjatagge
for lifepāṇupetaṁ
as refugesaraṇaṁ
gonegatan”ti.
after consideration“Anuviccakāraṁ
indeedkho,
householdergahapati,
you should actkarohi,
acting after considerationanuviccakāro
of such as youtumhādisānaṁ
known·peopleñātamanussānaṁ
goodsādhu
ishotī”ti.
by this now I“Imināpāhaṁ,
venerable sirbhante,
with the Blessed Onebhagavato
morebhiyyoso
by measuremattāya
delightedattamano
satisfiedabhiraddho
sinceyaṁ
memaṁ
the Blessed Onebhagavā
thus·speaksevamāha:
after consideration‘anuviccakāraṁ
indeedkho,
householdergahapati,
you should actkarohi,
acting after considerationanuviccakāro
of such as youtumhādisānaṁ
known·peopleñātamanussānaṁ
goodsādhu
be·quotation markerhotī’ti.
for if IMañhi,
venerable sirbhante,
other·followers of religionsaññatitthiyā
disciplesāvakaṁ
having gainedlabhitvā
all overkevalakappaṁ
Nāḷandānāḷandaṁ
bannerpaṭākaṁ
they would carry aroundparihareyyuṁ:
Upāli‘upāli
ouramhākaṁ
householdergahapati
to discipleshipsāvakattaṁ
to·gone·quotation markerupagato’ti.
and yetAtha
andca
butpana
memaṁ
the Blessed Onebhagavā
thus·speaksevamāha:
after consideration‘anuviccakāraṁ
indeedkho,
householdergahapati,
you should actkarohi,
acting after considerationanuviccakāro
of such as youtumhādisānaṁ
known·peopleñātamanussānaṁ
goodsādhu
be·quotation markerhotī’ti.
this IEsāhaṁ,
venerable sirbhante,
for a second timedutiyampi
to the Blessed Onebhagavantaṁ
refugesaraṇaṁ
I gogacchāmi
dhamma + anddhammañca
bhikkhu·Saṅgha·andbhikkhusaṅghañca.
as a lay followerUpāsakaṁ
memaṁ
the Blessed Onebhagavā
may he rememberdhāretu
today·from this day onwardajjatagge
for lifepāṇupetaṁ
refugesaraṇaṁ
gone·quotation markergatan”ti.
for a long time“Dīgharattaṁ
indeedkho
yourte,
householdergahapati,
of the Jain asceticsnigaṇṭhānaṁ
well-spring·beingopānabhūtaṁ
familykulaṁ
by whichyena
for themnesaṁ
when they have comeupagatānaṁ
almsfoodpiṇḍakaṁ
should be givendātabbaṁ
you should considermaññeyyāsī”ti.
by this, sir, I am even more“Imināpāhaṁ,
sirbhante,
with the Blessed Onebhagavato
morebhiyyoso
in measuremattāya
self·mindattamano
thoroughly·satisfiedabhiraddho
thatyaṁ
memaṁ
the Blessed Onebhagavā
speaks thusevamāha:
for a long time‘dīgharattaṁ
indeedkho
yourte,
householdergahapati,
of the Jain asceticsnigaṇṭhānaṁ
well-spring·beingopānabhūtaṁ
familykulaṁ
by whichyena
for themnesaṁ
when they have comeupagatānaṁ
almsfoodpiṇḍakaṁ
should be givendātabbaṁ
you should considermaññeyyāsī’ti.
heardSutaṁ
by me is thismetaṁ,
sirbhante,
the asceticsamaṇo
Gotamagotamo
speaks thusevamāha:
to me alone‘mayhameva
a giftdānaṁ
should be givendātabbaṁ,
not·othersnāññesaṁ
a giftdānaṁ
should be givendātabbaṁ;
to me·alonemayhameva
to disciplessāvakānaṁ
a giftdānaṁ
should be givendātabbaṁ,
not·othersnāññesaṁ
to disciplessāvakānaṁ
a giftdānaṁ
should be givendātabbaṁ;
to me·alonemayhameva
givendinnaṁ
very fruitfulmahapphalaṁ,
not·othersnāññesaṁ
givendinnaṁ
very fruitfulmahapphalaṁ;
to me·alonemayhameva
to disciplessāvakānaṁ
givendinnaṁ
very fruitfulmahapphalaṁ,
not·othersnāññesaṁ
to disciplessāvakānaṁ
givendinnaṁ
very fruitfulmahapphalan’ti.
thenAtha
andca
yetpana
memaṁ
the Blessed Onebhagavā
even to the Jain asceticsnigaṇṭhesupi
in givingdāne
encouragessamādapeti.
butApi
andca,
sirbhante,
we + heremayamettha
the timekālaṁ
we will knowjānissāma.
this IEsāhaṁ,
sirbhante,
for a third time tootatiyampi
to the Blessed Onebhagavantaṁ
as refugesaraṇaṁ
I gogacchāmi
dhamma·anddhammañca
and to the mendicant Saṅghabhikkhusaṅghañca.
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