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Majjhima Nikāya 63

Cūḷamālukyasutta

The Shorter Discourse With Māluṅkya · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral

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not‘na so long Itāvāhaṁ thisimaṁ arrowsallaṁ I will extractāharissāmi as long asyāva notna thattaṁ personpurisaṁ I knowjānāmi by which I wasyenamhi piercedviddho, talldīgho orvā shortrasso orvā mediummajjhimo orvā’ti;
heso soevaṁ might sayvadeyya:
not‘na so long Itāvāhaṁ thisimaṁ arrowsallaṁ I will extractāharissāmi as long asyāva notna thattaṁ personpurisaṁ I knowjānāmi by which I wasyenamhi piercedviddho, blackkāḷo orvā brownsāmo orvā dingy-skinnedmaṅguracchavī orvā’ti;
heso soevaṁ might sayvadeyya:
not‘na so long Itāvāhaṁ thisimaṁ arrowsallaṁ I will extractāharissāmi as long asyāva notna thattaṁ personpurisaṁ I knowjānāmi by which I wasyenamhi piercedviddho, in such-and-suchamukasmiṁ villagegāme orvā townnigame orvā citynagare orvā’ti;
heso soevaṁ might sayvadeyya:
not‘na so long Itāvāhaṁ thisimaṁ arrowsallaṁ I will extractāharissāmi as long asyāva notna thattaṁ bowdhanuṁ I knowjānāmi by which I wasyenamhi piercedviddho, ifyadi orvā straightcāpo ifyadi orvā recurvedkodaṇḍo’ti;
heso soevaṁ might sayvadeyya:

not‘na so long Itāvāhaṁ thisimaṁ arrowsallaṁ I will extractāharissāmi as long asyāva notna thattaṁ bow-stringjiyaṁ I knowjānāmi by which I amyāyamhi piercedviddho, whetheryadi orvā swallow-wort fibreakkassa whetheryadi orvā sunn hemp fibresaṇhassa whetheryadi orvā sinewnhārussa whetheryadi orvā sansevieria fibremaruvāya whetheryadi orvā spurge fibrekhīrapaṇṇino’ti;
heso thusevaṁ might sayvadeyya:
not‘na so long Itāvāhaṁ thisimaṁ arrowsallaṁ I will extractāharissāmi as long asyāva notna thattaṁ shaftkaṇḍaṁ I knowjānāmi by which I amyenamhi piercedviddho, whetheryadi orvā bushgacchaṁ whetheryadi orvā plantation treeropiman’ti;
heso thusevaṁ might sayvadeyya:
not‘na so long Itāvāhaṁ thisimaṁ arrowsallaṁ I will extractāharissāmi as long asyāva notna thattaṁ shaftkaṇḍaṁ I knowjānāmi by which I amyenamhi piercedviddho, of whichyassa with featherspattehi fittedvājitaṁ whetheryadi orvā vulturegijjhassa whetheryadi orvā heronkaṅkassa whetheryadi orvā hawkkulalassa whetheryadi orvā peacockmorassa whetheryadi orvā storksithilahanuno’ti;
heso thusevaṁ might sayvadeyya:

not‘na yet Itāvāhaṁ thisimaṁ arrowsallaṁ will extractāharissāmi as long asyāva notna thattaṁ shaftkaṇḍaṁ I knowjānāmi by whichyenamhi piercedviddho, of whichyassa with sinewnhārunā boundparikkhittaṁ ifyadi orvā of a cowgavassa ifyadi orvā of a buffalomahiṁsassa ifyadi orvā of a black lionbheravassa ifyadi orvā of an ape'semhārassā’ti;
heso thusevaṁ would sayvadeyya:
not‘na yet Itāvāhaṁ thisimaṁ arrowsallaṁ will extractāharissāmi as long asyāva notna thattaṁ arrowsallaṁ I knowjānāmi by whichyenamhi piercedviddho, ifyadi orvā spikedsallaṁ ifyadi orvā razor-tippedkhurappaṁ ifyadi orvā barbedvekaṇḍaṁ ifyadi orvā of ironnārācaṁ ifyadi orvā of calf's toothvacchadantaṁ ifyadi orvā lancet-shaped'karavīrapattan’ti—
unlearned indeedaññātameva thattaṁ, Mālukyaputtamālukyaputta, by thattena by that manpurisena would beassa, thenatha thatso manpuriso timekālaṁ would dokareyya.
in the same wayEvameva indeedkho, Mālukyaputtamālukyaputta, whoyo thusevaṁ would sayvadeyya:
not‘na yet Itāvāhaṁ under the Blessed Onebhagavati the spiritual lifebrahmacariyaṁ will leadcarissāmi as long asyāva to meme the Blessed Onebhagavā notna will declarebyākarissati:
eternal“sassato the cosmosloko”ti orvā not eternal“asassato the cosmosloko”ti orvā …pe……pe…

neither“neva still existshoti norna notna still existshoti the realized onetathāgato afterparaṁ deathmaraṇā”ti orvā’ti—
just undeclaredabyākatameva thattaṁ, Māluṅkyaputtamālukyaputta, by the realized onetathāgatena it would beassa, and meanwhileatha thatso individualpuggalo timekālaṁ would diekareyya.

'eternal‘Sassato the cosmos is'loko’ti, Māluṅkyaputtamālukyaputta, of viewdiṭṭhiyā there beingsati living of the spiritual lifebrahmacariyavāso there would be;abhavissāti, soevaṁ not.no.
'not eternal‘Asassato the cosmos is'loko’ti, Māluṅkyaputtamālukyaputta, of viewdiṭṭhiyā there beingsati living of the spiritual lifebrahmacariyavāso there would be;abhavissāti, so tooevampi not.no.
'eternal‘Sassato the cosmos is'loko’ti or,vā, Māluṅkyaputtamālukyaputta, of viewdiṭṭhiyā there being,sati, 'not eternal‘asassato the cosmos is'loko’ti orvā of viewdiṭṭhiyā there beingsati still there isattheva rebirth,jāti, there isatthi old age,jarā, there isatthi death,maraṇaṁ, there aresanti sorrow, lamentation, pain, sadness, and distress;sokaparidevadukkhadomanassupāyāsā;
of which Iyesāhaṁ in this very lifediṭṭheva in the dhammadhamme the defeatnighātaṁ I advocate.paññapemi.
'finite‘Antavā the cosmos is'loko’ti, Māluṅkyaputtamālukyaputta, of viewdiṭṭhiyā there beingsati living of the spiritual lifebrahmacariyavāso there would be;abhavissāti, soevaṁ not.no.
'infinite‘Anantavā the cosmos is'loko’ti, Māluṅkyaputtamālukyaputta, of viewdiṭṭhiyā there beingsati living of the spiritual lifebrahmacariyavāso there would be;abhavissāti, so tooevampi not.no.
'finite‘Antavā the cosmos is'loko’ti or,vā, Māluṅkyaputtamālukyaputta, of viewdiṭṭhiyā there being,sati, 'infinite‘anantavā the cosmos is'loko’ti orvā of viewdiṭṭhiyā there beingsati still there isattheva rebirth,jāti, there isatthi old age,jarā, there isatthi death,maraṇaṁ, there aresanti sorrow, lamentation, pain, sadness, and distress;sokaparidevadukkhadomanassupāyāsā;
of which Iyesāhaṁ in this very lifediṭṭheva in the dhammadhamme the defeatnighātaṁ I advocate.paññapemi.
'the soul‘Taṁ isjīvaṁ the same astaṁ the body'sarīran’ti, Māluṅkyaputtamālukyaputta, of viewdiṭṭhiyā there beingsati living of the spiritual lifebrahmacariyavāso there would be;abhavissāti, soevaṁ not.no.

one thing‘Aññaṁ the souljīvaṁ anotheraññaṁ the body.'sarīran’ti, Mālukyaputta,mālukyaputta, with viewdiṭṭhiyā beingsati the spiritual lifebrahmacariyavāso would have beenabhavissāti, even soevampi no.no.
the‘Taṁ souljīvaṁ thetaṁ body.'sarīran’ti or,vā, Mālukyaputta,mālukyaputta, with viewdiṭṭhiyā being,sati, 'the soul is one thing‘aññaṁ the souljīvaṁ one thingaññaṁ the body.'sarīran’ti orvā with viewdiṭṭhiyā beingsati there is justattheva birthjāti ……pe…
destructionnighātaṁ I declare.paññapemi.
'Exists‘Hoti the realized onetathāgato afterparaṁ death.'maraṇā’ti, Mālukyaputta,mālukyaputta, with viewdiṭṭhiyā beingsati the spiritual lifebrahmacariyavāso would have beenabhavissāti, even soevaṁ no.no.
'Does not‘Na existhoti the realized onetathāgato afterparaṁ death.'maraṇā’ti, Mālukyaputta,mālukyaputta, with viewdiṭṭhiyā beingsati the spiritual lifebrahmacariyavāso would have beenabhavissāti, even soevampi no.no.
'Exists‘Hoti the realized onetathāgato afterparaṁ death,'maraṇā’ti or,vā, Mālukyaputta,mālukyaputta, with viewdiṭṭhiyā being,sati, 'does not‘na existhoti the realized onetathāgato afterparaṁ death,'maraṇā’ti orvā with viewdiṭṭhiyā beingsati there is justattheva birthjāti ……pe…
which Iyesāhaṁ in this very lifediṭṭheva in the teachingdhamme destructionnighātaṁ I declare.paññapemi.
'Exists‘Hoti bothca notna andca existshoti the realized onetathāgato afterparaṁ death,'maraṇā’ti, Mālukyaputta,mālukyaputta, with viewdiṭṭhiyā beingsati the spiritual lifebrahmacariyavāso would have beenabhavissāti, even soevaṁ no.no.

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