The Shorter Discourse With Māluṅkya · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral
Parallels & more translations on SuttaCentral
thusEvaṁ
by meme
heardsutaṁ—
oneekaṁ
timesamayaṁ
the Buddhabhagavā
near Sāvatthīsāvatthiyaṁ
was stayingviharati
in Jeta's Grovejetavane
of Anāthapiṇḍikaanāthapiṇḍikassa
monasteryārāme.
So I have heard. At one time the Buddha was staying near Sāvatthī in Jeta’s Grove, Anāthapiṇḍika’s monastery.
thenAtha
indeedkho
of venerableāyasmato
of Māluṅkyaputtamālukyaputtassa
in private retreatrahogatassa
secludedpaṭisallīnassa
thusevaṁ
of mindcetaso
thoughtparivitakko
aroseudapādi:
these which“yānimāni
convictionsdiṭṭhigatāni
by the Buddhabhagavatā
undeclaredabyākatāni
set asideṭhapitāni
rejectedpaṭikkhittāni:
eternal‘sassato
cosmosloko’tipi,
not eternal‘asassato
cosmosloko’tipi,
finite‘antavā
cosmosloko’tipi,
infinite‘anantavā
cosmosloko’tipi,
that‘taṁ
souljīvaṁ
thattaṁ
bodysarīran’tipi,
one‘aññaṁ
souljīvaṁ
anotheraññaṁ
bodysarīran’tipi,
exists‘hoti
realized onetathāgato
afterparaṁ
deathmaraṇā’tipi,
not‘na
existshoti
realized onetathāgato
afterparaṁ
deathmaraṇā’tipi,
exists‘hoti
andca
notna
andca
existshoti
realized onetathāgato
afterparaṁ
deathmaraṇā’tipi,
neither‘neva
existshoti
notna
notna
existshoti
realized onetathāgato
afterparaṁ
deathmaraṇā’tipi—
thesetāni
for meme
Buddhabhagavā
notna
explainsbyākaroti.
whichYāni
for meme
Buddhabhagavā
notna
explainsbyākaroti
thattaṁ
for meme
notna
pleasesruccati,
thattaṁ
for meme
does not acceptnakkhamati.
I thatSohaṁ
to Buddhabhagavantaṁ
having approachedupasaṅkamitvā
this matteretamatthaṁ
will askpucchissāmi.
ifSace
for meme
Buddhabhagavā
will explainbyākarissati:
eternal‘sassato
cosmosloko’ti
orvā
not eternal‘asassato
cosmosloko’ti
orvā
…pe……pe…
neither‘neva
existshoti
notna
notna
existshoti
realized onetathāgato
afterparaṁ
deathmaraṇā’ti
orvā—
Then as Venerable Māluṅkyaputta was in private retreat this thought came to his mind: “There are several convictions that the Buddha has left undeclared; he has set them aside and turned them down. For example: the cosmos is eternal, or not eternal, or finite, or infinite; the soul and the body are one and the same, or the soul is one thing, the body another; after death, a realized one still exists, or no longer exists, or both still exists and no longer exists, or neither still exists nor no longer exists. The Buddha does not explain these points to me. I don’t endorse that, and do not accept it. I’ll go to him and ask him about this. If he gives me a straight answer on any of these points,
thus Ievāhaṁ
in the Blessed Onebhagavati
the spiritual lifebrahmacariyaṁ
I will leadcarissāmi;
notno
ifce
to meme
the Blessed Onebhagavā
will explainbyākarissati:
'eternal‘sassato
is the world'loko’ti
orvā
'not eternal‘asassato
is the world'loko’ti
orvā
…pe……pe…
'neither‘neva
ishoti
notna
notna
ishoti
the Tathāgatatathāgato
after death'paraṁ
after death,'maraṇā’ti
or—vā—
thus Ievāhaṁ
the trainingsikkhaṁ
having renouncedpaccakkhāya
will return to a lesser life'hīnāyāvattissāmī”ti.
I will lead the spiritual life under him. If he does not explain these points to me, I shall resign the training and return to a lesser life.”
thenAtha
indeedkho
Venerableāyasmā
Māluṅkyaputtamālukyaputto
in the evening timesāyanhasamayaṁ
from seclusionpaṭisallānā
emergedvuṭṭhito
whereyena
the Blessed Onebhagavā
to him approachedtenupasaṅkami;
having approachedupasaṅkamitvā
the Blessed Onebhagavantaṁ
having bowedabhivādetvā
to one sideekamantaṁ
sat downnisīdi.
to one sideEkamantaṁ
seatednisinno
indeedkho
Venerableāyasmā
Māluṅkyaputtamālukyaputto
to the Blessed Onebhagavantaṁ
this saidetadavoca:
here“Idha
to memayhaṁ,
sirbhante,
gone to solituderahogatassa
secludedpaṭisallīnassa
thusevaṁ
in the mindcetaso
reflectionparivitakko
aroseudapādi—
these viewsyānimāni
viewsdiṭṭhigatāni
by the Blessed Onebhagavatā
undeclaredabyākatāni
set asideṭhapitāni
rejectedpaṭikkhittāni:
eternal‘sassato
the world alsoloko’tipi,
not eternal‘asassato
the world alsoloko’tipi
and so on…pe…
neither‘neva
ishoti
notna
notna
ishoti
the Tathāgatatathāgato
afterparaṁ
death alsomaraṇā’tipi—
thosetāni
to meme
the Blessed Onebhagavā
notna
declaresbyākaroti.
whichYāni
to meme
the Blessed Onebhagavā
notna
declaresbyākaroti
thattaṁ
to meme
notna
pleasesruccati,
thattaṁ
to meme
does not satisfynakkhamati.
ISohaṁ
to the Blessed Onebhagavantaṁ
having approachedupasaṅkamitvā
this matteretamatthaṁ
will askpucchissāmi.
ifSace
to meme
the Blessed Onebhagavā
will declarebyākarissati:
eternal‘sassato
the worldloko’ti
orvā,
not eternal‘asassato
the worldloko’ti
orvā
and so on…pe…
neither‘neva
ishoti
notna
notna
ishoti
the Tathāgatatathāgato
afterparaṁ
deathmaraṇā’ti
orvā—
thus Ievāhaṁ
in the Blessed Onebhagavati,
the holy lifebrahmacariyaṁ
will livecarissāmi.
Then in the late afternoon, Māluṅkyaputta came out of retreat and went to the Buddha. He bowed, sat down to one side, and told the Buddha of his thoughts. He then continued:
notNo
ifce
to meme
the Blessed Onebhagavā
will explainbyākarissati:
eternal‘sassato
the cosmos, thusloko’ti
orvā,
non-eternal‘asassato
the cosmos, thusloko’ti
orvā
…pe……pe…
neither‘neva
existshoti
notna
notna
existshoti
the Tathāgatatathāgato
afterparaṁ
death, thusmaraṇā’ti
or—vā—
then Ievāhaṁ
the trainingsikkhaṁ
having rejectedpaccakkhāya
will return to the low life, thushīnāyāvattissāmīti.
ifSace
the Blessed Onebhagavā
knowsjānāti:
eternal‘sassato
the cosmos, thusloko’ti,
eternal‘sassato
the cosmos, thusloko’ti
to meme
the Blessed Onebhagavā
let explainbyākarotu;
ifsace
the Blessed Onebhagavā
knowsjānāti:
non-eternal‘asassato
the cosmos, thusloko’ti,
non-eternal‘asassato
the cosmos, thusloko’ti
to meme
the Blessed Onebhagavā
let explainbyākarotu.
notNo
ifce
the Blessed Onebhagavā
knowsjānāti:
eternal‘sassato
the cosmos, thusloko’ti
orvā,
non-eternal‘asassato
the cosmos, thusloko’ti
orvā,
for one not knowingajānato
indeedkho
furtherpana
for one not seeingapassato
this veryetadeva
straightforwardujukaṁ
ishoti
namelyyadidaṁ:
not‘na
I knowjānāmi,
notna
I see, thuspassāmī’ti.
ifSace
the Blessed Onebhagavā
knowsjānāti:
finite‘antavā
the cosmos, thusloko’ti,
infinite‘anantavā
the cosmos, thusloko’ti
to meme
the Blessed Onebhagavā
let explainbyākarotu;
ifsace
the Blessed Onebhagavā
knowsjānāti:
infinite‘anantavā
the cosmos, thusloko’ti,
infinite‘anantavā
the cosmos, thusloko’ti
to meme
the Blessed Onebhagavā
let explainbyākarotu.
notNo
ifce
the Blessed Onebhagavā
knowsjānāti:
“If the Buddha knows that the cosmos is eternal, please tell me. If you know that the cosmos is not eternal, tell me. If you don’t know whether the cosmos is eternal or not, then it is straightforward to simply say: ‘I neither know nor see.’ If you know that the cosmos is finite, or infinite;
finite is‘antavā
the worldloko’ti
orvā,
infinite is‘anantavā
the worldloko’ti
orvā,
for one not knowingajānato
indeedkho
thenpana
for one not seeingapassato
just thisetadeva
uprightujukaṁ
ishoti
that namelyyadidaṁ:
not‘na
I knowjānāmi,
notna
I seepassāmī’ti.
ifSace
the Blessed Onebhagavā
knowsjānāti:
that‘taṁ
souljīvaṁ
thattaṁ
bodysarīran’ti,
that‘taṁ
souljīvaṁ
thattaṁ
bodysarīran’ti
to meme
the Blessed Onebhagavā
let declarebyākarotu;
ifsace
the Blessed Onebhagavā
knowsjānāti:
different‘aññaṁ
souljīvaṁ
differentaññaṁ
bodysarīran’ti,
different‘aññaṁ
souljīvaṁ
differentaññaṁ
bodysarīran’ti
to meme
the Blessed Onebhagavā
let declarebyākarotu.
ifNo
notce
the Blessed Onebhagavā
knowsjānāti:
that‘taṁ
souljīvaṁ
thattaṁ
bodysarīran’ti
orvā,
different‘aññaṁ
souljīvaṁ
differentaññaṁ
bodysarīran’ti
orvā,
for one not knowingajānato
indeedkho
thenpana
for one not seeingapassato
just thisetadeva
uprightujukaṁ
ishoti
that namelyyadidaṁ:
not‘na
I knowjānāmi,
notna
I seepassāmī’ti.
ifSace
the Blessed Onebhagavā
knowsjānāti:
exists‘hoti
a realized onetathāgato
afterparaṁ
deathmaraṇā’ti,
exists‘hoti
a realized onetathāgato
afterparaṁ
deathmaraṇā’ti
to meme
the Blessed Onebhagavā
let declarebyākarotu;
ifsace
the Blessed Onebhagavā
knowsjānāti:
that the soul and the body are one and the same, or is the soul one thing, the body another; that after death, a realized one still exists,
Page 1 of 4 · Next ›
Lite mode — plain HTML for e-readers and old browsers. Full version