The Longer Discourse With Māluṅkya · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral
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of thatTassa
thatso
ill willbyāpādo
with underlying tendencysānusayo
forth·abandonpahīyati.
whichYo,
Ānandaānanda,
pathmaggo
whichyā
practicepaṭipadā
of fivepañcannaṁ
lowerorambhāgiyānaṁ
of fetterssaṁyojanānaṁ
for giving uppahānāya
thattaṁ
pathmaggaṁ
thattaṁ
practicepaṭipadaṁ
not·rely onanāgamma
five lowerpañcorambhāgiyāni
fetterssaṁyojanāni
will knowñassati
orvā
will seedakkhati
orvā
forth·abandonpajahissati
or: thisvāti—netaṁ
possibleṭhānaṁ
is foundvijjati.
supposeSeyyathāpi,
Ānandaānanda,
largemahato
of a treerukkhassa
standingtiṭṭhato
with heartwoodsāravato
barktacaṁ
having cut throughacchetvā
softwoodphegguṁ
having cut throughacchetvā
cutting out of heartwoodsāracchedo
will be:bhavissatīti—
thisnetaṁ
possibleṭhānaṁ
is foundvijjati;
in the same wayevameva
indeedkho,
Ānandaānanda,
whichyo
pathmaggo
whichyā
practicepaṭipadā
of fivepañcannaṁ
lowerorambhāgiyānaṁ
of fetterssaṁyojanānaṁ
for giving uppahānāya
thattaṁ
pathmaggaṁ
thattaṁ
practicepaṭipadaṁ
not·rely onanāgamma
five lowerpañcorambhāgiyāni
fetterssaṁyojanāni
will knowñassati
orvā
will seedakkhati
orvā
forth·abandonpajahissati
or: thisvāti—netaṁ
possibleṭhānaṁ
is foundvijjati.
That ill will, along with any underlying tendency to it, is given up in them. There is a path and a practice for giving up the five lower fetters. It’s not possible to know or see or give up the five lower fetters without relying on that path and that practice. Suppose there was a large tree standing with heartwood. It’s not possible to cut out the heartwood without having cut through the bark and the softwood. In the same way, there is a path and a practice for giving up the five lower fetters. It’s not possible to know or see or give up the five lower fetters without relying on that path and that practice.
whichYo andca indeedkho, Ānandaānanda, pathmaggo whichyā practicepaṭipadā of the fivepañcannaṁ lowerorambhāgiyānaṁ of fetterssaṁyojanānaṁ for the abandoningpahānāya thattaṁ pathmaggaṁ thattaṁ practicepaṭipadaṁ towards·having goneāgamma five·lowerpañcorambhāgiyāni fetterssaṁyojanāni he will knowñassati orvā he will seedakkhati orvā forth·give uppajahissati possibility·thisvāti—ṭhānametaṁ it existsvijjati.
But it is possible to know and see and give up the five lower fetters by relying on that path and that practice.
just asSeyyathāpi,
Ānandaānanda,
largemahato
of a treerukkhassa
standingtiṭṭhato
with heartwoodsāravato
barktacaṁ
having cutchetvā
softwoodphegguṁ
having cutchetvā
heartwood·cuttingsāracchedo
be·possibility + thisbhavissatīti—ṭhānametaṁ
existsvijjati.
just soevameva
indeedkho,
Ānandaānanda,
whateveryo
pathmaggo
whateveryā
practicepaṭipadā
of the fivepañcannaṁ
lowerorambhāgiyānaṁ
of fetterssaṁyojanānaṁ
for giving uppahānāya
thattaṁ
pathmaggaṁ
thattaṁ
practicepaṭipadaṁ
to·goāgamma
the five lowerpañcorambhāgiyāni
fetterssaṁyojanāni
will knowñassati
orvā
will seedakkhati
orvā
will give uppajahissati
or·possibility + thisvāti—ṭhānametaṁ
existsvijjati.
just asSeyyathāpi,
Ānandaānanda,
Gangesgaṅgā
rivernadī
fullpūrā
of waterudakassa
brim-fullsamatittikā
crow·drinkablekākapeyyā.
thenAtha
feebledubbalako
personpuriso
to·goāgaccheyya:
I‘ahaṁ
of thisimissā
of the Gangesgaṅgāya
of the rivernadiyā
acrosstiriyaṁ
with armsbāhāya
currentsotaṁ
having cutchetvā
safelysotthinā
to the far shorepāraṁ
go + quotation-markergacchissāmī’ti;
heso
notna
would be ablesakkuṇeyya
of the Gangesgaṅgāya
of the rivernadiyā
acrosstiriyaṁ
with armsbāhāya
currentsotaṁ
having cutchetvā
safelysotthinā
to the far shorepāraṁ
to gogantuṁ.
just soEvameva
indeedkho,
Ānandaānanda,
of thoseyesaṁ
of anykesañci
substantial-reality·cessationsakkāyanirodhāya
Dhammadhamme
being taughtdesiyamāne
mindcittaṁ
notna
leaps forthpakkhandati
not·gain-confidencenappasīdati
notna
settles downsantiṭṭhati
notna
becomes decidedvimuccati;
just asseyyathāpi
thatso
feebledubbalako
personpuriso
like-that·theseevamete
to be regardeddaṭṭhabbā.
Suppose there was a large tree standing with heartwood. It is possible to cut out the heartwood after having cut through the bark and the softwood. In the same way, there is a path and a practice for giving up the five lower fetters. It is possible to know and see and give up the five lower fetters by relying on that path and that practice. Suppose the Ganges River was full to the brim so a crow could drink from it. Then along comes a feeble person, who thinks: ‘By swimming with my arms I’ll safely cross over to the far shore of the Ganges.’ But they’re not able to do so. In the same way, when the Dhamma is being taught to them for the cessation of substantial reality, those whose mind does not leap forth, gain confidence, settle down, and become decided should be regarded as being like that feeble person.
just asSeyyathāpi,
Ānandaānanda,
the Gangesgaṅgā
rivernadī
fullpūrā
of waterudakassa
level with the bankssamatittikā
drinkable by crowskākapeyyā.
thenAtha
strongbalavā
personpuriso
would comeāgaccheyya:
I‘ahaṁ
of thisimissā
Gangesgaṅgāya
rivernadiyā
acrosstiriyaṁ
with armsbāhāya
currentsotaṁ
having cutchetvā
safelysotthinā
the far shorepāraṁ
I will gogacchissāmī’ti;
heso
would be ablesakkuṇeyya
of the Gangesgaṅgāya
of the rivernadiyā
acrosstiriyaṁ
with armsbāhāya
currentsotaṁ
having cutchetvā
safelysotthinā
to the far shorepāraṁ
to gogantuṁ.
in the same wayEvameva
indeedkho,
Ānandaānanda,
of thoseyesaṁ
of whateverkesañci
for the cessation of substantial realitysakkāyanirodhāya
Dhammadhamme
being taughtdesiyamāne
mindcittaṁ
leaps forthpakkhandati
gains confidencepasīdati
settles downsantiṭṭhati
becomes decidedvimuccati;
just asseyyathāpi
thatso
strongbalavā
personpuriso
so theseevamete
should be seendaṭṭhabbā.
Suppose the Ganges River was full to the brim so a crow could drink from it. Then along comes a strong person, who thinks: ‘By swimming with my arms I’ll safely cross over to the far shore of the Ganges.’ And they are able to do so. In the same way, when the Dhamma is being taught to them for the cessation of substantial reality, those whose mind leaps forth, gains confidence, settles down, and becomes decided should be regarded as being like that strong person.
whatKatamo
and Ānandacānanda,
pathmaggo,
whatkatamā
practicepaṭipadā
of the fivepañcannaṁ
lowerorambhāgiyānaṁ
of the fetterssaṁyojanānaṁ
for the giving uppahānāya?
here·ĀnandaIdhānanda,
a mendicantbhikkhu
due to seclusion from attachmentsupadhivivekā
of unskillfulakusalānaṁ
qualitiesdhammānaṁ
the giving uppahānā
completelysabbaso
of physical discomfortskāyaduṭṭhullānaṁ
for the settlingpaṭippassaddhiyā
quite secludedvivicceva
from sensual pleasureskāmehi
secludedvivicca
from unskillfulakusalehi
qualitiesdhammehi
with placing the mindsavitakkaṁ
with keeping it connectedsavicāraṁ
born of seclusionvivekajaṁ
with rapture and blisspītisukhaṁ
firstpaṭhamaṁ
absorptionjhānaṁ
enters andupasampajja
remainsviharati.
heSo
whateveryadeva
theretattha
ishoti
included in formrūpagataṁ
included in feelingvedanāgataṁ
included in perceptionsaññāgataṁ
included in choicessaṅkhāragataṁ
included in consciousnessviññāṇagataṁ
thosete
phenomenadhamme
as impermanentaniccato
as sufferingdukkhato
as diseasedrogato
as a boilgaṇḍato
as a dartsallato
as gloomaghato
as an afflictionābādhato
as alienparato
as breaking apartpalokato
as emptysuññato
as not-selfanattato
contemplatessamanupassati.
heSo
from thosetehi
phenomenadhammehi
mindcittaṁ
turns awaypaṭivāpeti.
heSo
from thosetehi
phenomenadhammehi
mindcittaṁ
having turned awaypaṭivāpetvā
to the element free of deathamatāya
to the elementdhātuyā
mindcittaṁ
appliesupasaṁharati:
this‘etaṁ
peacefulsantaṁ
thisetaṁ
sublimepaṇītaṁ
that isyadidaṁ
the stilling of all activitiessabbasaṅkhārasamatho
the letting go of all attachmentssabbūpadhipaṭinissaggo
the ending of cravingtaṇhākkhayo
fading awayvirāgo
cessationnirodho
extinguishment’nibbānan’ti.
heSo
theretattha
abidingṭhito
of defilementsāsavānaṁ
the endingkhayaṁ
attainspāpuṇāti;
And what, Ānanda, is the path and the practice for giving up the five lower fetters? It’s when a mendicant—due to the seclusion from attachments, the giving up of unskillful qualities, and the complete settling of physical discomforts—quite secluded from sensual pleasures, secluded from unskillful qualities, enters and remains in the first absorption, which has the rapture and bliss born of seclusion, while placing the mind and keeping it connected. They contemplate the phenomena there—included in form, feeling, perception, choices, and consciousness—as impermanent, as suffering, as diseased, as a boil, as a dart, as gloom, as an affliction, as alien, as breaking apart, as empty, as not-self. They turn their mind away from those things, and apply it to the element free of death: ‘This is peaceful; this is sublime—that is, the stilling of all activities, the letting go of all attachments, the ending of craving, fading away, cessation, extinguishment.’ Abiding in that they attain the ending of defilements.
notno
ifce
of the defilementsāsavānaṁ
endingkhayaṁ
attainspāpuṇāti
that·veryteneva
teaching·passiondhammarāgena
by thattāya
teaching·delightdhammanandiyā
of the fivepañcannaṁ
lowerorambhāgiyānaṁ
of the fetterssaṁyojanānaṁ
by the endingparikkhayā
spontaneously rebornopapātiko
ishoti,
theretattha
extinguishedparinibbāyī,
not liable to returnanāvattidhammo
from thattasmā
worldlokā.
this tooAyampi
indeedkho,
Ānandaānanda,
the pathmaggo
thisayaṁ
the practicepaṭipadā
of the fivepañcannaṁ
lowerorambhāgiyānaṁ
of the fetterssaṁyojanānaṁ
for giving uppahānāya.
If they don’t attain the ending of defilements, with the ending of the five lower fetters they’re reborn spontaneously, because of their passion and love for that meditation. They are extinguished there, and are not liable to return from that world. This is the path and the practice for giving up the five lower fetters.
againPuna
and furthercaparaṁ,
Ānandaānanda,
a mendicantbhikkhu
placing·keeping-connectedvitakkavicārānaṁ
because of stillingvūpasamā
……pe…
seconddutiyaṁ
absorptionjhānaṁ
having enteredupasampajja
remainsviharati
……pe…
thirdtatiyaṁ
absorptionjhānaṁ
……pe…
fourthcatutthaṁ
absorptionjhānaṁ
having enteredupasampajja
remains.viharati.
heSo
whateveryadeva
theretattha
ishoti
form·includedrūpagataṁ
feeling·includedvedanāgataṁ
perception·includedsaññāgataṁ
choices·includedsaṅkhāragataṁ
consciousness·includedviññāṇagataṁ
……
…pe…
not·return·liableanāvattidhammo
from thattasmā
world.lokā.
this·alsoAyampi
indeedkho,
Ānandaānanda,
pathmaggo
thisayaṁ
practicepaṭipadā
of the fivepañcannaṁ
lowerorambhāgiyānaṁ
fetterssaṁyojanānaṁ
for giving uppahānāya.
Furthermore, as the placing of the mind and keeping it connected are stilled, a mendicant enters and remains in the second absorption … third absorption … fourth absorption. They contemplate the phenomena there—included in form, feeling, perception, choices, and consciousness—as impermanent … They turn their mind away from those things … If they don’t attain the ending of defilements, they’re reborn spontaneously … and are not liable to return from that world. This too is the path and the practice for giving up the five lower fetters.
againPuna
and furthercaparaṁ,
Ānandaānanda,
a bhikkhubhikkhu
completelysabbaso
form·perceptionsrūpasaññānaṁ
by the complete transcendingsamatikkamā
impingement·perceptionspaṭighasaññānaṁ
by the disappearanceatthaṅgamā
diversity·perceptionsnānattasaññānaṁ
not·attendingamanasikārā
infinite‘ananto
space is infiniteākāso’ti
infinite space·dimensionākāsānañcāyatanaṁ
having enteredupasampajja
dwellsviharati.
heSo
whateveryadeva
theretattha
ishoti
feeling·includedvedanāgataṁ
perception·includedsaññāgataṁ
choices·includedsaṅkhāragataṁ
consciousness·includedviññāṇagataṁ
……
…pe…pe…
not·returnanāvattidhammo
from thattasmā
worldlokā.
this + tooAyampi
indeedkho,
Ānandaānanda,
pathmaggo
thisayaṁ
practicepaṭipadā
of the fivepañcannaṁ
lowerorambhāgiyānaṁ
of the fetterssaṁyojanānaṁ
for the abandoningpahānāya.
Furthermore, a mendicant, going totally beyond perceptions of form, with the disappearance of perceptions of impingement, not focusing on perceptions of diversity, aware that ‘space is infinite’, enters and remains in the dimension of infinite space. They contemplate the phenomena there—included in feeling, perception, choices, and consciousness—as impermanent … They turn their mind away from those things … If they don’t attain the ending of defilements, they’re reborn spontaneously … and are not liable to return from that world. This too is the path and the practice for giving up the five lower fetters.
furthermorePuna
and·furthercaparaṁ,
Ānandaānanda,
a mendicantbhikkhu
totallysabbaso
space·infinite·dimensionākāsānañcāyatanaṁ
going totally beyondsamatikkamma
infinite‘anantaṁ
consciousness is infiniteviññāṇan’ti
consciousness·infinite·dimensionviññāṇañcāyatanaṁ
close·together·enterupasampajja
remainsviharati.
theySo
whatever·justyadeva
theretattha
ishoti
feeling·includedvedanāgataṁ
perception·includedsaññāgataṁ
choices·includedsaṅkhāragataṁ
consciousness·includedviññāṇagataṁ
……
pe…pe…
not·return·liableanāvattidhammo
from that worldtasmā
worldlokā.
this·tooAyampi
indeedkho,
Ānandaānanda,
the pathmaggo
thisayaṁ
the practicepaṭipadā
of fivepañcannaṁ
lower·pertainingorambhāgiyānaṁ
of fetterssaṁyojanānaṁ
for giving uppahānāya.
Furthermore, a mendicant, going totally beyond the dimension of infinite space, aware that ‘consciousness is infinite’, enters and remains in the dimension of infinite consciousness. They contemplate the phenomena there—included in feeling, perception, choices, and consciousness—as impermanent … They turn their mind away from those things … If they don’t attain the ending of defilements, they’re reborn spontaneously … and are not liable to return from that world. This too is the path and the practice for giving up the five lower fetters.
furthermorePuna
and alsocaparaṁ,
Ānandaānanda,
a mendicantbhikkhu
totallysabbaso
the dimension of infinite consciousnessviññāṇañcāyatanaṁ
having gone beyondsamatikkamma
'there is not‘natthi
anything'kiñcī’ti
the dimension of nothingnessākiñcaññāyatanaṁ
having enteredupasampajja
remainsviharati.
theySo
whateveryadeva
theretattha
ishoti
feeling·gonevedanāgataṁ
perception·gonesaññāgataṁ
choices·gonesaṅkhāragataṁ
consciousness·goneviññāṇagataṁ
……
…pe…
not liable to returnanāvattidhammo
from thattasmā
worldlokā.
this tooAyampi
indeedkho,
Ānandaānanda,
the pathmaggo
thisayaṁ
the practicepaṭipadā
of the fivepañcannaṁ
lowerorambhāgiyānaṁ
fetterssaṁyojanānaṁ
for giving uppahānāyā”ti.
Furthermore, a mendicant, going totally beyond the dimension of infinite consciousness, aware that ‘there is nothing at all’, enters and remains in the dimension of nothingness. They contemplate the phenomena there—included in feeling, perception, choices, and consciousness—as impermanent … They turn their mind away from those things … If they don’t attain the ending of defilements, they’re reborn spontaneously … and are not liable to return from that world. This too is the path and the practice for giving up the five lower fetters.”
this“Eso
ifce,
sirbhante,
pathmaggo
thisesā
practicepaṭipadā
of the fivepañcannaṁ
lowerorambhāgiyānaṁ
of fetterssaṁyojanānaṁ
for giving uppahānāya,
thenatha
what·thenkiñcarahi
here·someidhekacce
mendicantsbhikkhū
heart·releasedcetovimuttino
someekacce
mendicantsbhikkhū
wisdom·releasedpaññāvimuttino”ti?
in that case“Ettha
indeedkho
I say itpanesāhaṁ,
Ānandaānanda,
faculty·disparityindriyavemattataṁ
I sayvadāmī”ti.
this·saidIdamavoca
the Buddhabhagavā.
satisfiedAttamano
Venerableāyasmā
Ānandaānando
of the Buddhabhagavato
what was saidbhāsitaṁ
approvedabhinandīti.
great·Mālukya·discourseMahāmālukyasuttaṁ
finishedniṭṭhitaṁ
fourthcatutthaṁ.
“Sir, if this is the path and the practice for giving up the five lower fetters, how then are some mendicants here released in heart while others are released by wisdom?” “In that case, I say it is the disparity of their faculties.” That is what the Buddha said. Satisfied, Venerable Ānanda approved what the Buddha said.
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