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Majjhima Nikāya 73

Mahāvacchasutta

The Longer Discourse With Vacchagotta · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral

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let stand“Tiṭṭhatu worthybhavaṁ Gotamagotamo, let standtiṭṭhantu monksbhikkhū, let standtiṭṭhantu nunsbhikkhuniyo, let standtiṭṭhantu laymenupāsakā householdersgihī white-clothedodātavasanā chastebrahmacārino, let standtiṭṭhantu laymenupāsakā householdersgihī white-clothedodātavasanā enjoying sensual pleasureskāmabhogino.
is thereAtthi thenpana worthybhoto Gotama'sgotamassa even a single laywoman discipleekupāsikāpi disciplesāvikā laywomangihinī white-clothedodātavasanā holy·livingbrahmacārinī whoyā of the fivepañcannaṁ below·pertainingorambhāgiyānaṁ together·bindsaṁyojanānaṁ all around·destroyparikkhayā spontaneously rebornopapātikā theretattha all around·extinguishparinibbāyinī not·return·liableanāvattidhammā from thattasmā world?lokā”ti?
not“Na indeedkho, Vacchavaccha, one·justekaṁyeva hundredsataṁ notna twodve hundredssatāni notna threetīṇi hundredssatāni notna fourcattāri hundredssatāni notna fivepañca hundredssatāni, butatha indeedkho more·indeedbhiyyova whoyā laywomenupāsikā mymama disciplessāvikā laywomengihiniyo white-clothedodātavasanā holy·livingbrahmacāriniyo of the fivepañcannaṁ below·pertainingorambhāgiyānaṁ together·bindsaṁyojanānaṁ all around·destroyparikkhayā spontaneously rebornopapātikā theretattha all around·extinguishparinibbāyiniyo not·return·liableanāvattidhammā from thattasmā world.lokā”ti.

let stand“Tiṭṭhatu worthybhavaṁ Gotamagotamo, let standtiṭṭhantu monksbhikkhū, let standtiṭṭhantu nunsbhikkhuniyo, let standtiṭṭhantu laymenupāsakā householdersgihī white·clothedodātavasanā chastebrahmacārino, let standtiṭṭhantu laymenupāsakā householdersgihī white·clothedodātavasanā enjoying sensual pleasureskāmabhogino, let standtiṭṭhantu laywomenupāsikā householdersgihiniyo white·clothedodātavasanā chastebrahmacāriniyo.
is thereAtthi thenpana worthybhoto of Gotamagotamassa one·laywoman·evenekupāsikāpi disciplesāvikā householdergihinī white·clothedodātavasanā sensual-pleasure·enjoyingkāmabhoginī instruction·doingsāsanakarā advice·respondingovādappaṭikarā whoyā crossed·doubttiṇṇavicikicchā gone·indecisionvigatakathaṅkathā self-assurance·attainedvesārajjappattā not·other·dependentaparappaccayā Teacher·instructionsatthusāsane livesviharatī”ti?
not“Na indeedkho, Vacchavaccha, one·justekaṁyeva hundredsataṁ notna twodve hundredssatāni notna threetīṇi hundredssatāni notna fourcattāri hundredssatāni notna fivepañca hundredssatāni, butatha indeedkho more·thanbhiyyova whoyā laywomenupāsikā mymama disciplessāvikā householdersgihiniyo white·clothedodātavasanā sensual-pleasure·enjoyingkāmabhoginiyo instruction·doingsāsanakarā advice·respondingovādappaṭikarā crossed·doubttiṇṇavicikicchā gone·indecisionvigatakathaṅkathā self-assurance·attainedvesārajjappattā not·other·dependentaparappaccayā Teacher·instructionsatthusāsane liveviharantī”ti.

if“Sace indeedhi, sirbho Gotamagotama, thisimaṁ teachingdhammaṁ worthy + alonebhavaṁyeva Gotamagotamo one who has succeededārādhako would have beenabhavissa, notno andca indeedkho monksbhikkhū ones who have succeededārādhakā would have beenabhavissaṁsu;
thus + thisevamidaṁ holy·conductbrahmacariyaṁ not·fully·fullaparipūraṁ past·beabhavissa in that respecttenaṅgena.
becauseYasmā andca indeedkho, sirbho Gotamagotama, thisimaṁ teachingdhammaṁ worthy + toobhavañceva Gotamagotamo one who has succeededārādhako monksbhikkhū andca ones who have succeededārādhakā;
thus + thisevamidaṁ holy·conductbrahmacariyaṁ fully·fullparipūraṁ in that respecttenaṅgena.
ifSace indeedhi, sirbho Gotamagotama, thisimaṁ teachingdhammaṁ worthy + toobhavañceva Gotamagotamo one who has succeededārādhako would have beenabhavissa, monksbhikkhū andca ones who have succeededārādhakā would have beenabhavissaṁsu, notno andca indeedkho nunsbhikkhuniyo ones who have succeededārādhikā would have beenabhavissaṁsu;
thus + thisevamidaṁ holy·conductbrahmacariyaṁ not·fully·fullaparipūraṁ past·beabhavissa in that respecttenaṅgena.
becauseYasmā andca indeedkho, sirbho Gotamagotama, thisimaṁ teachingdhammaṁ worthy + toobhavañceva Gotamagotamo one who has succeededārādhako, monksbhikkhū andca ones who have succeededārādhakā, nunsbhikkhuniyo andca ones who have succeededārādhikā;
thus + thisevamidaṁ holy·conductbrahmacariyaṁ fully·fullparipūraṁ in that respecttenaṅgena.

ifSace indeedhi, sirbho Gotamagotama, thisimaṁ teachingdhammaṁ venerable·and·justbhavañceva Gotamagotamo attainerārādhako would have beenabhavissa, monksbhikkhū andca attainersārādhakā would have beenabhavissaṁsu, nunsbhikkhuniyo andca attainersārādhikā would have beenabhavissaṁsu, notno butca indeedkho lay followersupāsakā laymengihī clothed in whiteodātavasanā chaste·practicingbrahmacārino attainersārādhakā would have beenabhavissaṁsu;
thus + thisevamidaṁ holy lifebrahmacariyaṁ not·fully·fillaparipūraṁ would have beenabhavissa in that respecttenaṅgena.
sinceYasmā andca indeedkho, sirbho Gotamagotama, thisimaṁ teachingdhammaṁ venerable·and·justbhavañceva Gotamagotamo attainerārādhako, monksbhikkhū andca attainersārādhakā, nunsbhikkhuniyo andca attainersārādhikā, lay followersupāsakā andca laymengihī clothed in whiteodātavasanā chaste·practicingbrahmacārino attainersārādhakā;
thus + thisevamidaṁ holy lifebrahmacariyaṁ fully·fillparipūraṁ in that respecttenaṅgena.
ifSace indeedhi, sirbho Gotamagotama, thisimaṁ teachingdhammaṁ venerable·and·justbhavañceva Gotamagotamo attainerārādhako would have beenabhavissa, monksbhikkhū andca attainersārādhakā would have beenabhavissaṁsu, nunsbhikkhuniyo andca attainersārādhikā would have beenabhavissaṁsu, lay followersupāsakā andca laymengihī clothed in whiteodātavasanā chaste·practicingbrahmacārino attainersārādhakā would have beenabhavissaṁsu, notno butca indeedkho lay followersupāsakā laymengihī clothed in whiteodātavasanā sensual pleasure·enjoy·practicingkāmabhogino attainersārādhakā would have beenabhavissaṁsu;
thus + thisevamidaṁ holy lifebrahmacariyaṁ not·fully·fillaparipūraṁ would have beenabhavissa in that respecttenaṅgena.

sinceYasmā andca indeedkho, sirbho Gotamagotama, thisimaṁ teachingdhammaṁ reverend + himself·andbhavañceva Gotamagotamo one who has attainedārādhako, monksbhikkhū andca ones who have attainedārādhakā, nunsbhikkhuniyo andca ones who have attainedārādhikā, male lay followersupāsakā andca laymengihī clad in whiteodātavasanā celibatebrahmacārino ones who have attainedārādhakā, male lay followersupāsakā andca laymengihī clad in whiteodātavasanā enjoyers of sensual pleasureskāmabhogino ones who have attainedārādhakā;
thus·thisevamidaṁ holy lifebrahmacariyaṁ around·fillparipūraṁ in that respecttenaṅgena.
ifSace indeedhi, sirbho Gotamagotama, thisimaṁ teachingdhammaṁ reverend + himself·andbhavañceva Gotamagotamo one who attainedārādhako would have beenabhavissa, monksbhikkhū andca to·accomplishārādhakā would have beenabhavissaṁsu, nunsbhikkhuniyo andca to·accomplishārādhikā would have beenabhavissaṁsu, male lay followersupāsakā andca laymengihī clad in whiteodātavasanā celibatebrahmacārino to·accomplishārādhakā would have beenabhavissaṁsu, male lay followersupāsakā andca laymengihī clad in whiteodātavasanā enjoyers of sensual pleasureskāmabhogino to·accomplishārādhakā would have beenabhavissaṁsu, notno butca indeedkho female lay followersupāsikā laywomengihiniyo clad in whiteodātavasanā celibatebrahmacāriniyo to·accomplishārādhikā would have beenabhavissaṁsu;
thus·thisevamidaṁ holy lifebrahmacariyaṁ not·around·fillaparipūraṁ be·wouldabhavissa in that respecttenaṅgena.

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