The Longer Discourse With Vacchagotta · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral
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sinceYasmā
andca
indeedkho,
sirbho
Gotamagotama,
thisimaṁ
dhammadhammaṁ
master·andbhavañceva
Gotamagotamo
an accomplisherārādhako,
monksbhikkhū
andca
accomplishersārādhakā,
nunsbhikkhuniyo
andca
accomplishersārādhikā,
male lay followersupāsakā
andca
householdersgihī
white·dressodātavasanā
holy·conductbrahmacārino
accomplishersārādhakā,
male lay followersupāsakā
andca
householdersgihī
white·dressodātavasanā
sensual·enjoykāmabhogino
accomplishersārādhakā,
female lay followersupāsikā
andca
female householdersgihiniyo
white·dressodātavasanā
holy·conductbrahmacāriniyo
accomplishersārādhikā;
thus + thisevamidaṁ
holy·conductbrahmacariyaṁ
around·fillparipūraṁ
in that respecttenaṅgena.
ifSace
indeedhi,
sirbho
Gotamagotama,
thisimaṁ
dhammadhammaṁ
master·andbhavañceva
Gotamagotamo
an accomplisherārādhako
would have beenabhavissa,
monksbhikkhū
andca
accomplishersārādhakā
would have beenabhavissaṁsu,
nunsbhikkhuniyo
andca
accomplishersārādhikā
would have beenabhavissaṁsu,
male lay followersupāsakā
andca
householdersgihī
white·dressodātavasanā
holy·conductbrahmacārino
accomplishersārādhakā
would have beenabhavissaṁsu,
male lay followersupāsakā
andca
householdersgihī
white·dressodātavasanā
sensual·enjoykāmabhogino
accomplishersārādhakā
would have beenabhavissaṁsu,
female lay followersupāsikā
andca
female householdersgihiniyo
white·dressodātavasanā
holy·conductbrahmacāriniyo
accomplishersārādhikā
would have beenabhavissaṁsu,
notno
butca
indeedkho
female lay followersupāsikā
female householdersgihiniyo
white·dressodātavasanā
sensual·enjoykāmabhoginiyo
accomplishersārādhikā
would have beenabhavissaṁsu;
thus + thisevamidaṁ
holy·conductbrahmacariyaṁ
not·around·fillaparipūraṁ
would have beenabhavissa
in that respecttenaṅgena.
laywomen enjoying sensual pleasures, then this spiritual path would be incomplete in that respect.
becauseYasmā
andca
indeedkho,
worthybho
Gotamagotama,
thisimaṁ
teachingdhammaṁ
worthy + and·and·justbhavañceva
Gotamagotamo
has succeededārādhako,
monksbhikkhū
andca
have succeededārādhakā,
nunsbhikkhuniyo
andca
have succeededārādhikā,
laymenupāsakā
andca
laygihī
white·wearingodātavasanā
holy·livingbrahmacārino
have succeededārādhakā,
laymenupāsakā
andca
laygihī
white·wearingodātavasanā
sensual-pleasure·enjoyingkāmabhogino
have succeededārādhakā,
laywomenupāsikā
andca
laygihiniyo
white·wearingodātavasanā
holy·livingbrahmacāriniyo
have succeededārādhikā,
laywomenupāsikā
andca
laygihiniyo
white·wearingodātavasanā
sensual-pleasure·enjoyingkāmabhoginiyo
have succeededārādhikā;
thus + this·thisevamidaṁ
holy·lifebrahmacariyaṁ
all-round·fullparipūraṁ
in that respecttenaṅgena.
But because Worthy Gotama, monks, nuns, chaste laymen, laymen enjoying sensual pleasures, chaste laywomen, and laywomen enjoying sensual pleasures have all succeeded in this teaching, this spiritual path is complete in that respect.
just asSeyyathāpi, good sirbho Gotamagotama, Gangesgaṅgā rivernadī ocean·slantssamuddaninnā ocean·slopessamuddapoṇā ocean·inclinessamuddapabbhārā the oceansamuddaṁ having pressed againstāhacca standstiṭṭhati, in the same way thisevamevāyaṁ of Worthybhoto Gotama'sgotamassa assemblyparisā with·laypeople·renunciatessagahaṭṭhapabbajitā extinguishment·slantsnibbānaninnā extinguishment·slopesnibbānapoṇā extinguishment·inclinesnibbānapabbhārā extinguishmentnibbānaṁ having pressed againstāhacca standstiṭṭhati.
Just as the Ganges River slants, slopes, and inclines toward the ocean, and keeps pressing into the ocean, in the same way Worthy Gotama’s assembly—with both laypeople and renunciates—slants, slopes, and inclines toward extinguishment, and keeps pressing upon extinguishment.
excellentAbhikkantaṁ,
worthybho
Gotamagotama
…pe……pe…
I thisesāhaṁ
worthybhavantaṁ
Gotamagotamaṁ
refugesaraṇaṁ
I gogacchāmi
and the teachingdhammañca
and the mendicant Saṅghabhikkhusaṅghañca.
may I receiveLabheyyāhaṁ
of the worthybhoto
of Gotamagotamassa
in the presencesantike
the going forthpabbajjaṁ,
I might receivelabheyyaṁ
the ordinationupasampadan”ti.
Excellent, worthy Gotama! … I go for refuge to the worthy Gotama, to the teaching, and to the mendicant Saṅgha. May I receive the going forth, the ordination in the worthy Gotama’s presence?”
who“Yo
indeedkho,
Vacchavaccha,
other·sectarianaññatitthiyapubbo
in thisimasmiṁ
teaching and trainingdhammavinaye
wishesākaṅkhati
the going forthpabbajjaṁ,
wishesākaṅkhati
the ordinationupasampadaṁ,
heso
fourcattāro
monthsmāse
lives on probationparivasati.
of fourCatunnaṁ
monthsmāsānaṁ
after the passingaccayena
satisfied·mindāraddhacittā
mendicantsbhikkhū
give the going forthpabbājenti
give the ordinationupasampādenti
to monkhoodbhikkhubhāvāya;
howeverapi
andca
here to memettha
individual·differencepuggalavemattatā
knownviditā”ti.
if“Sace,
sirbhante,
other·sectarianaññatitthiyapubbā
in thisimasmiṁ
teaching and trainingdhammavinaye
wishingākaṅkhantā
the going forthpabbajjaṁ,
wishingākaṅkhantā
the ordinationupasampadaṁ
fourcattāro
monthsmāse
live on probationparivasanti,
of fourcatunnaṁ
monthsmāsānaṁ
after the passingaccayena
satisfied·mindāraddhacittā
mendicantsbhikkhū
give the going forthpabbājenti
give the ordinationupasampādenti
to monkhoodbhikkhubhāvāya;
Iahaṁ
fourcattāri
yearsvassāni
I will live on probationparivasissāmi.
of fourCatunnaṁ
yearsvassānaṁ
after the passingaccayena
satisfied·mindāraddhacittā
mendicantsbhikkhū
let them give the going forthpabbājentu
let them give the ordinationupasampādentu
to monkhoodbhikkhubhāvāyā”ti.
receivedAlattha
indeedkho
Vacchagottavacchagotto
wandererparibbājako
of the Blessed Onebhagavato
in the presencesantike
the going forthpabbajjaṁ
receivedalattha
the ordinationupasampadaṁ.
“Vaccha, if someone formerly ordained in another sect wishes to take the going forth, the ordination in this teaching and training, they must spend four months on probation. When four months have passed, if the mendicants are satisfied, they’ll give the going forth, the ordination into monkhood. However, I recognize individual differences in this matter.” “Sir, if four months probation are required in such a case, I’ll spend four years on probation. When four years have passed, if the mendicants are satisfied, let them give me the going forth, the ordination into monkhood.” And the wanderer Vaccha received the going forth, the ordination in the Buddha’s presence.
not·long·ordainedAcirūpasampanno
indeedkho
and·venerablepanāyasmā
Vacchagottavacchagotto
fortnight·ordainedaddhamāsūpasampanno
whereyena
the Buddhabhagavā
there he approachedtenupasaṅkami;
having approachedupasaṅkamitvā
the Buddhabhagavantaṁ
having bowedabhivādetvā
to one sideekamantaṁ
he sat downnisīdi.
to one sideEkamantaṁ
seatednisinno
indeedkho
venerableāyasmā
Vacchagottavacchagotto
to the Buddhabhagavantaṁ
he said thisetadavoca:
as far as possible“yāvatakaṁ,
sirbhante,
of a traineesekhena
with knowledgeñāṇena
of a traineesekhāya
with understandingvijjāya
to be reachedpattabbaṁ,
reachedanuppattaṁ
thattaṁ
by memayā;
furtheruttari
andca
to meme
the Buddhabhagavā
dhammadhammaṁ
let him teachdesetū”ti.
Not long after his ordination, a fortnight later, Venerable Vacchagotta went to the Buddha, bowed, sat down to one side, and said to him, “Sir, I’ve reached as far as possible with the knowledge and understanding of a trainee. Please teach me further.”
by that“Tena
thenhi
youtvaṁ,
Vacchavaccha,
twodve
thingsdhamme
furtheruttari
develop·serenity·andbhāvehi—samathañca
discernment·andvipassanañca.
theseIme
indeedkho
by youte,
Vacchavaccha,
twodve
thingsdhammā
furtheruttari
developed·serenitybhāvitā—samatho
andca
discernmentvipassanā
and·many-element-penetrationca—anekadhātupaṭivedhāya
they will leadsaṁvattissanti.
“Well then, Vaccha, further develop two things: serenity and discernment. When you have further developed these two things, they’ll lead to the penetration of many elements.
thatSo
youtvaṁ,
Vacchavaccha,
as far asyāvadeva
you will wishākaṅkhissasi:
of many kinds‘anekavihitaṁ
power·kindiddhividhaṁ
experience + one·toopaccanubhaveyyaṁ—ekopi
having beenhutvā
manifoldbahudhā
may I beassaṁ,
manifold + toobahudhāpi
having beenhutvā
oneeko
may I beassaṁ;
visibleāvibhāvaṁ,
invisibletirobhāvaṁ;
through·walltirokuṭṭaṁ
through·ramparttiropākāraṁ
through·mountaintiropabbataṁ
not·stickingasajjamāno
may I gogaccheyyaṁ,
just asseyyathāpi
in spaceākāse;
earth + toopathaviyāpi
emerging·divingummujjanimujjaṁ
may I dokareyyaṁ,
just asseyyathāpi
in waterudake;
on water + tooudakepi
not·breakingabhijjamāne
may I gogaccheyyaṁ,
just asseyyathāpi
on earthpathaviyaṁ;
in space + tooākāsepi
cross-leggedpallaṅkena
may I walkkameyyaṁ,
just asseyyathāpi
wingedpakkhī
birdsakuṇo;
these + tooimepi
moon·suncandimasūriye
so·mightyevaṁmahiddhike
so·powerfulevaṁmahānubhāve
with the handpāṇinā
may I touchparimaseyyaṁ,
may I strokeparimajjeyyaṁ;
as far asyāva
realm of divinity + evenbrahmalokāpi
with the bodykāyena
controlvasaṁ
may I wieldvatteyyan’ti,
in thattatra
right theretatreva
witness·capabilitysakkhibhabbataṁ
you will attainpāpuṇissasi,
when there issati
the basis of mindfulnesssatiāyatane.
As far as you want, you will be capable of realizing these things, since each and every one is within range: ‘May I wield the many kinds of psychic power: multiplying myself and becoming one again; materializing and dematerializing; going unobstructed through a wall, a rampart, or a mountain as if through space; diving in and out of the earth as if it were water; walking on water as if it were earth; flying cross-legged through the sky like a bird; touching and stroking with the hand the sun and moon, so mighty and powerful; controlling the body as far as the realm of divinity.’
youSo
youtvaṁ,
Vacchavaccha,
wheneveryāvadeva
you will wishākaṅkhissasi:
with divine‘dibbāya
ear-elementsotadhātuyā
purifiedvisuddhāya
superhumanatikkantamānusikāya
bothubho
soundssadde
may I hearsuṇeyyaṁ—dibbe
andca
humanmānuse
andca,
whichye
fardūre
nearsantike
andcā’ti,
theretatra
right theretatreva
capability of witnessingsakkhibhabbataṁ
you will attainpāpuṇissasi,
when there issati
the basis of mindfulnesssatiāyatane.
Whenever you want, you will be capable of realizing these things, since each and every one is within range: ‘With clairaudience that is purified and superhuman, may I hear both kinds of sounds, human and heavenly, whether near or far.’
thatSo
youtvaṁ,
Vacchavaccha,
as far as·justyāvadeva
you will desireākaṅkhissasi:
of other beings‘parasattānaṁ
other·individualsparapuggalānaṁ
with mindcetasā
mindceto
having encompassedparicca
may I understandpajāneyyaṁ—
with·greedsarāgaṁ
orvā
mindcittaṁ
with·greedsarāgaṁ
mind·quotation markercittanti
may I understandpajāneyyaṁ,
without·greedvītarāgaṁ
orvā
mindcittaṁ
without·greedvītarāgaṁ
mind·quotation markercittanti
may I understandpajāneyyaṁ;
with·hatesadosaṁ
orvā
mindcittaṁ
with·hatesadosaṁ
mind·quotation markercittanti
may I understandpajāneyyaṁ,
without·hatevītadosaṁ
orvā
mindcittaṁ
without·hatevītadosaṁ
mind·quotation markercittanti
may I understandpajāneyyaṁ;
with·delusionsamohaṁ
orvā
mindcittaṁ
with·delusionsamohaṁ
mind·quotation markercittanti
may I understandpajāneyyaṁ,
without·delusionvītamohaṁ
orvā
mindcittaṁ
without·delusionvītamohaṁ
mind·quotation markercittanti
may I understandpajāneyyaṁ;
constrictedsaṅkhittaṁ
orvā
mindcittaṁ
constrictedsaṅkhittaṁ
mind·quotation markercittanti
may I understandpajāneyyaṁ,
scatteredvikkhittaṁ
orvā
mindcittaṁ
scatteredvikkhittaṁ
mind·quotation markercittanti
may I understandpajāneyyaṁ;
expansivemahaggataṁ
orvā
mindcittaṁ
expansivemahaggataṁ
mind·quotation markercittanti
may I understandpajāneyyaṁ,
not·expansiveamahaggataṁ
orvā
mindcittaṁ
not·expansiveamahaggataṁ
mind·quotation markercittanti
may I understandpajāneyyaṁ;
with·highersauttaraṁ
orvā
mindcittaṁ
with·highersauttaraṁ
mind·quotation markercittanti
may I understandpajāneyyaṁ,
supremeanuttaraṁ
orvā
mindcittaṁ
supremeanuttaraṁ
mind·quotation markercittanti
may I understandpajāneyyaṁ;
immersed in samādhisamāhitaṁ
orvā
mindcittaṁ
immersed in samādhisamāhitaṁ
mind·quotation markercittanti
may I understandpajāneyyaṁ,
not·immersedasamāhitaṁ
orvā
mindcittaṁ
not·immersedasamāhitaṁ
mind·quotation markercittanti
may I understandpajāneyyaṁ;
As far as you want, you will be capable of realizing these things, since each and every one is within range: ‘May I understand the minds of other beings and individuals, having encompassed them with my mind. May I understand mind with greed as “mind with greed”, and mind without greed as “mind without greed”; mind with hate as “mind with hate”, and mind without hate as “mind without hate”; mind with delusion as “mind with delusion”, and mind without delusion as “mind without delusion”; constricted mind as “constricted mind”, and scattered mind as “scattered mind”; expansive mind as “expansive mind”, and unexpansive mind as “unexpansive mind”; mind that is not supreme as “mind that is not supreme”, and mind that is supreme as “mind that is supreme”; mind immersed in samādhi as “mind immersed in samādhi”, and mind not immersed in samādhi as “mind not immersed in samādhi”;
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