With Māgaṇḍiya · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral
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Taṁ
kiṁ
maññasi,
māgaṇḍiya,
api
nu
te
diṭṭho
vā
suto
vā
rājā
vā
rājamahāmatto
vā
pañcahi
kāmaguṇehi
samappito
samaṅgībhūto
paricārayamāno
kāmataṇhaṁ
appahāya
kāmapariḷāhaṁ
appaṭivinodetvā
vigatapipāso
ajjhattaṁ
vūpasantacitto
vihāsi
vā
viharati
vā
viharissati
vā”ti?
“No
hidaṁ,
bho
gotama”.
“Sādhu,
māgaṇḍiya.
Mayāpi
kho
etaṁ,
māgaṇḍiya,
neva
diṭṭhaṁ
na
sutaṁ
rājā
vā
rājamahāmatto
vā
pañcahi
kāmaguṇehi
samappito
samaṅgībhūto
paricārayamāno
kāmataṇhaṁ
appahāya
kāmapariḷāhaṁ
appaṭivinodetvā
vigatapipāso
ajjhattaṁ
vūpasantacitto
vihāsi
vā
viharati
vā
viharissati
vā.
What do you think, Māgaṇḍiya? Have you seen or heard of a king or a royal minister of the past, future, or present, amusing themselves supplied and provided with the five kinds of sensual stimulation, who—without giving up craving for sensual pleasures and dispelling passion for sensual pleasures—lives rid of thirst, their mind settled internally?” “No, worthy Gotama.” “Good, Māgaṇḍiya. Neither have I.
Atha kho, māgaṇḍiya, ye hi keci samaṇā vā brāhmaṇā vā vigatapipāsā ajjhattaṁ vūpasantacittā vihāsuṁ vā viharanti vā viharissanti vā sabbe te kāmānaṁyeva samudayañca atthaṅgamañca assādañca ādīnavañca nissaraṇañca yathābhūtaṁ viditvā kāmataṇhaṁ pahāya kāmapariḷāhaṁ paṭivinodetvā vigatapipāsā ajjhattaṁ vūpasantacittā vihāsuṁ vā viharanti vā viharissanti vā”ti.
On the contrary, all the ascetics or brahmins of the past, future, or present who live rid of thirst, their minds settled internally, do so after truly understanding the origin, ending, gratification, drawback, and escape of sensual pleasures, and after giving up craving and dispelling passion for sensual pleasures.”
Atha
kho
bhagavā
tāyaṁ
velāyaṁ
imaṁ
udānaṁ
udānesi:
“Ārogyaparamā
lābhā,
nibbānaṁ
paramaṁ
sukhaṁ;
Aṭṭhaṅgiko
ca
maggānaṁ,
khemaṁ
amatagāminan”ti.
Evaṁ
vutte,
māgaṇḍiyo
paribbājako
bhagavantaṁ
etadavoca:
“acchariyaṁ,
bho
gotama,
abbhutaṁ,
bho
gotama.
Yāva
subhāsitañcidaṁ
bhotā
gotamena:
‘ārogyaparamā
lābhā,
nibbānaṁ
paramaṁ
sukhan’ti.
Mayāpi
kho
etaṁ,
bho
gotama,
sutaṁ
pubbakānaṁ
paribbājakānaṁ
ācariyapācariyānaṁ
bhāsamānānaṁ:
‘ārogyaparamā
lābhā,
nibbānaṁ
paramaṁ
sukhan’ti;
tayidaṁ,
bho
gotama,
sametī”ti.
“Yaṁ
pana
te
etaṁ,
māgaṇḍiya,
sutaṁ
pubbakānaṁ
paribbājakānaṁ
ācariyapācariyānaṁ
bhāsamānānaṁ:
‘ārogyaparamā
lābhā,
nibbānaṁ
paramaṁ
sukhan’ti,
katamaṁ
taṁ
ārogyaṁ,
katamaṁ
taṁ
nibbānan”ti?
Evaṁ
vutte,
māgaṇḍiyo
paribbājako
sakāneva
sudaṁ
gattāni
pāṇinā
anomajjati:
“idantaṁ,
bho
gotama,
ārogyaṁ,
idantaṁ
nibbānaṁ.
Then on that occasion the Buddha expressed this heartfelt sentiment: “Health is the ultimate blessing; extinguishment, the ultimate happiness. Of paths, the ultimate is eightfold— it’s safe, and leads to freedom from death.” When he said this, Māgaṇḍiya said to him, “It’s incredible, worthy Gotama, it’s amazing! How well said this was by the worthy Gotama! ‘Health is the ultimate blessing; extinguishment, the ultimate happiness.’ I’ve also heard that wanderers of the past, the tutors of tutors, said: ‘Health is the ultimate blessing; extinguishment, the ultimate happiness.’ And it agrees, worthy Gotama.” “But Māgaṇḍiya, when you heard that wanderers of the past said this, what is that health? And what is that extinguishment?” When he said this, Māgaṇḍiya stroked his own limbs with his hands, saying: “This is that health, worthy Gotama, this is that extinguishment!
Ahañhi, bho gotama, etarahi arogo sukhī, na maṁ kiñci ābādhatī”ti.
For I am now healthy and happy, and have no afflictions.”
“Seyyathāpi,
māgaṇḍiya,
jaccandho
puriso;
so
na
passeyya
kaṇhasukkāni
rūpāni,
na
passeyya
nīlakāni
rūpāni,
na
passeyya
pītakāni
rūpāni,
na
passeyya
lohitakāni
rūpāni,
na
passeyya
mañjiṭṭhakāni
rūpāni,
na
passeyya
samavisamaṁ,
na
passeyya
tārakarūpāni,
na
passeyya
candimasūriye.
So
suṇeyya
cakkhumato
bhāsamānassa:
‘chekaṁ
vata,
bho,
odātaṁ
vatthaṁ
abhirūpaṁ
nimmalaṁ
sucī’ti.
So
odātapariyesanaṁ
careyya.
Tamenaṁ
aññataro
puriso
telamalikatena
sāhuḷicīrena
vañceyya:
‘idaṁ
te,
ambho
purisa,
odātaṁ
vatthaṁ
abhirūpaṁ
nimmalaṁ
sucī’ti.
So
taṁ
paṭiggaṇheyya,
paṭiggahetvā
pārupeyya,
pārupetvā
attamano
attamanavācaṁ
nicchāreyya:
‘chekaṁ
vata,
bho,
odātaṁ
vatthaṁ
abhirūpaṁ
nimmalaṁ
sucī’ti.
Taṁ
kiṁ
maññasi,
māgaṇḍiya,
“Māgaṇḍiya, suppose a person was blind from birth. They couldn’t see sights that are dark or bright, or blue, yellow, red, or magenta. They couldn’t see even and uneven ground, or the stars, or the moon and sun. They might hear a sighted person saying: ‘White cloth is really nice, it’s attractive, stainless, and clean.’ They’d go in search of white cloth. But someone would cheat them with a dirty, soiled garment, saying: ‘My man, here is a white cloth for you, it’s attractive, stainless, and clean.’ They’d take it and put it on, expressing their gladness: ‘White cloth is really nice, it’s attractive, stainless, and clean.’ What do you think, Māgaṇḍiya?
api
nu
so
jaccandho
puriso
jānanto
passanto
amuṁ
telamalikataṁ
sāhuḷicīraṁ
paṭiggaṇheyya,
paṭiggahetvā
pārupeyya,
pārupetvā
attamano
attamanavācaṁ
nicchāreyya:
‘chekaṁ
vata,
bho,
odātaṁ
vatthaṁ
abhirūpaṁ
nimmalaṁ
sucī’ti
udāhu
cakkhumato
saddhāyā”ti?
“Ajānanto
hi,
bho
gotama,
apassanto
so
jaccandho
puriso
amuṁ
telamalikataṁ
sāhuḷicīraṁ
paṭiggaṇheyya,
paṭiggahetvā
pārupeyya,
pārupetvā
attamano
attamanavācaṁ
nicchāreyya:
‘chekaṁ
vata,
bho,
odātaṁ
vatthaṁ
abhirūpaṁ
nimmalaṁ
sucī’ti,
cakkhumato
saddhāyā”ti.
Did that person blind from birth do this knowing and seeing, or out of faith in the sighted person?” “They did so not knowing or seeing, but out of faith in the sighted person.”
“Evameva
kho,
māgaṇḍiya,
aññatitthiyā
paribbājakā
andhā
acakkhukā
ajānantā
ārogyaṁ,
apassantā
nibbānaṁ,
atha
ca
panimaṁ
gāthaṁ
bhāsanti:
‘ārogyaparamā
lābhā,
nibbānaṁ
paramaṁ
sukhan’ti.
Pubbakehesā,
māgaṇḍiya,
arahantehi
sammāsambuddhehi
gāthā
bhāsitā:
‘Ārogyaparamā
lābhā,
nibbānaṁ
paramaṁ
sukhaṁ;
Aṭṭhaṅgiko
ca
maggānaṁ,
khemaṁ
amatagāminan’ti.
Sā
etarahi
anupubbena
puthujjanagāthā.
Ayaṁ
kho
pana,
māgaṇḍiya,
kāyo
rogabhūto
gaṇḍabhūto
sallabhūto
aghabhūto
ābādhabhūto,
so
tvaṁ
imaṁ
kāyaṁ
rogabhūtaṁ
gaṇḍabhūtaṁ
sallabhūtaṁ
aghabhūtaṁ
ābādhabhūtaṁ:
‘idantaṁ,
bho
gotama,
ārogyaṁ,
idantaṁ
nibbānan’ti
vadesi.
Tañhi
te,
māgaṇḍiya,
ariyaṁ
cakkhuṁ
natthi
yena
tvaṁ
ariyena
cakkhunā
ārogyaṁ
jāneyyāsi,
nibbānaṁ
passeyyāsī”ti.
“In the same way, the wanderers of other religions are blind and sightless. Not knowing health and not seeing extinguishment, they still recite this verse: ‘Health is the ultimate blessing; extinguishment, the ultimate happiness.’ For this verse was recited by the perfected ones, fully awakened Buddhas of the past: ‘Health is the ultimate blessing; extinguishment, the ultimate happiness. Of paths, the ultimate is eightfold— it’s safe, and leads to freedom from death.’ These days it has gradually become a verse used by ordinary people. But Māgaṇḍiya, this body is a disease, a boil, a dart, a gloom, an affliction. Yet you say of this body: ‘This is that health, this is that extinguishment!’ Māgaṇḍiya, you don’t have the noble vision by which you might know health and see extinguishment.”
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