With Sandaka · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral
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ifSace
of thisimassa
of the venerablebhoto
of the teachersatthuno
truesaccaṁ
speechvacanaṁ,
by one who has not doneakatena
by meme
hereettha
donekataṁ,
by one who has not livedavusitena
by meme
hereettha
livedvusitaṁ.
both·indeedUbhopi
wemayaṁ
hereettha
exactly equalsamasamā
asceticismsāmaññaṁ
attainedpattā,
whoyo
and Icāhaṁ
notna
I sayvadāmi
of both‘ubhinnaṁ
actingkurutaṁ
notna
is donekarīyati
evilpāpan’ti.
superfluousAtirekaṁ
indeedkho
but·thispanimassa
of the venerablebhoto
of the teachersatthuno
nakednessnaggiyaṁ
baldnessmuṇḍiyaṁ
squatting·persistenceukkuṭikappadhānaṁ
hair·beard·tearingkesamassulocanaṁ,
who·Iyohaṁ
child·crowded·bedputtasambādhasayanaṁ
home·liveajjhāvasanto
Kāsi·sandalwoodkāsikacandanaṁ
enjoy·enjoypaccanubhonto
garland·fragrance·makeupmālāgandhavilepanaṁ
wearingdhārento
gold·silverjātarūparajataṁ
acceptingsādiyanto
with thisiminā
venerablebhotā
teachersatthārā
equal·equal·destinysamasamagatiko
I will bebhavissāmi
in the next lifeabhisamparāyaṁ.
he·ISohaṁ
whatkiṁ
knowingjānanto
whatkiṁ
seeingpassanto
in thisimasmiṁ
teachersatthari
spiritual·lifebrahmacariyaṁ
I should leadcarissāmi?
this‘So
not·spiritual lifeabrahmacariyavāso
thisayan’ti
thusiti
having knownviditvā
thereforetasmā
from the spiritual lifebrahmacariyā
disappointednibbijja
departspakkamati.
thisAyaṁ indeedkho, Sandakasandaka, by thattena by the Blessed Onebhagavatā by one who knowsjānatā by one who seespassatā by the Arahantarahatā by the Perfectly Enlightened Onesammāsambuddhena seconddutiyo way of non-spiritual lifeabrahmacariyavāso declaredakkhāto whereyattha a wiseviññū manpuriso with·respectsasakkaṁ the spiritual lifebrahmacariyaṁ notna would livevaseyya, livingvasanto andca would not attainnārādheyya the trueñāyaṁ dhammadhammaṁ wholesomekusalaṁ.
furthermorePuna
and moreovercaparaṁ,
Sandakasandaka,
here someidhekacco
teachersatthā
holding such a doctrineevaṁvādī
ishoti
having such a viewevaṁdiṭṭhi:
there is not‘natthi
causehetu,
there is notnatthi
reasonpaccayo
of sentient beingssattānaṁ
for corruptionsaṅkilesāya;
without causeahetū
without reasonappaccayā
sentient beingssattā
are corruptedsaṅkilissanti;
there is notnatthi
causehetu,
there is notnatthi
reasonpaccayo
of sentient beingssattānaṁ
for purificationvisuddhiyā;
without causeahetū
without reasonappaccayā
sentient beingssattā
are purifiedvisujjhanti;
there is notnatthi
powerbalaṁ,
there is notnatthi
energyvīriyaṁ,
there is notnatthi
human strengthpurisathāmo,
there is notnatthi
human vigorpurisaparakkamo;
allsabbe
sentient beingssattā
allsabbe
living creaturespāṇā
allsabbe
beingsbhūtā
allsabbe
soulsjīvā
without controlavasā
without powerabalā
without energyavīriyā
molded by destiny, circumstance, and natureniyatisaṅgatibhāvapariṇatā
in the six classes of rebirthchasvevābhijātīsu
pleasure and painsukhadukkhaṁ
they experiencepaṭisaṁvedentī’ti.
thereTatra,
Sandakasandaka,
sensibleviññū
personpuriso
thusiti
back·together·thinkpaṭisañcikkhati:
this‘ayaṁ
indeedkho
venerablebhavaṁ
teachersatthā
thus·speakerevaṁvādī
of such viewevaṁdiṭṭhi—
there is notnatthi
causehetu,
there is notnatthi
conditionpaccayo
of beingssattānaṁ
for defilementsaṅkilesāya,
without·causeahetū
without conditionappaccayā
beingssattā
are defiledsaṅkilissanti.
not·beNatthi
causehetu
not·benatthi
conditionpaccayo
of beingssattānaṁ
for purificationvisuddhiyā,
without·causeahetū
without conditionappaccayā
beingssattā
are purifiedvisujjhanti.
not·beNatthi
strengthbalaṁ,
not·benatthi
energyvīriyaṁ,
not·benatthi
manly strengthpurisathāmo,
not·benatthi
manly effortpurisaparakkamo,
allsabbe
beingssattā
allsabbe
living thingspāṇā
allsabbe
creaturesbhūtā
allsabbe
soulsjīvā
without·poweravasā
without·strengthabalā
without·energyavīriyā
fate·circumstance·nature·moldedniyatisaṅgatibhāvapariṇatā
in the six classeschasvevābhijātīsu
pleasure·painsukhadukkhaṁ
experiencepaṭisaṁvedentī’ti.
ifSace
of thisimassa
venerablebhoto
teacher'ssatthuno
truesaccaṁ
wordvacanaṁ,
not·doneakatena
by meme
hereettha
donekataṁ,
not·livedavusitena
by meme
hereettha
livedvusitaṁ.
bothUbhopi
wemayaṁ
hereettha
equal·equalsamasamā
ascetic statesāmaññaṁ
attainedpattā,
whoyo
and Icāhaṁ
notna
sayvadāmi
both‘ubho
without·causeahetū
without conditionappaccayā
will be purifiedvisujjhissāmā’ti.
superfluousAtirekaṁ
indeedkho
but for thispanimassa
venerablebhoto
teachersatthuno
nuditynaggiyaṁ
baldnessmuṇḍiyaṁ
squatting·persistingukkuṭikappadhānaṁ
hair·beard·tearing outkesamassulocanaṁ,
who + Iyohaṁ
children·crowded·homeputtasambādhasayanaṁ
livingajjhāvasanto
from Kāsi·sandalwoodkāsikacandanaṁ
experiencing·usingpaccanubhonto
garlands·fragrance·makeupmālāgandhavilepanaṁ
wearingdhārento
gold·currencyjātarūparajataṁ
acceptingsādiyanto
with thisiminā
venerablebhotā
teachersatthārā
same·exactly·destinysamasamagatiko
I will bebhavissāmi
in the next lifeabhisamparāyaṁ.
I + ISohaṁ
whatkiṁ
knowingjānanto
whatkiṁ
seeingpassanto
under thisimasmiṁ
teachersatthari
the spiritual lifebrahmacariyaṁ
I should leadcarissāmi?
this‘So
not·spiritual life·abidingabrahmacariyavāso
thisayan’ti—
thusiti
realizingviditvā
thereforetasmā
from the spiritual lifebrahmacariyā
disillusionednibbijja
they leavepakkamati.
thisAyaṁ indeedkho, Sandakasandaka, by thattena by the Blessed Onebhagavatā by the knowing onejānatā by the seeing onepassatā by the Worthy Onearahatā rightly·awakenedsammāsambuddhena thirdtatiyo not·holy·life·wayabrahmacariyavāso declaredakkhāto whereyattha a wiseviññū personpuriso with·respectsasakkaṁ holy·lifebrahmacariyaṁ notna would livevaseyya, livingvasanto andca not·to·attainnārādheyya the rightñāyaṁ dhammadhammaṁ wholesomekusalaṁ.
furthermorePuna
and alsocaparaṁ,
Sandakasandaka,
here someidhekacco
teachersatthā
thus·doctrine-holderevaṁvādī
ishoti
thus·viewevaṁdiṭṭhi:
these seven‘sattime
substanceskāyā
not·madeakaṭā
not·made·derivedakaṭavidhā
not·createdanimmitā
not·creatoranimmātā
barrenvañjhā
peak·standingkūṭaṭṭhā
pillar·standing·firmesikaṭṭhāyiṭṭhitā,
theyte
notna
moveiñjanti
notna
apart·changevipariṇamanti
notna
one anotheraññamaññaṁ
obstructbyābādhenti
unablenālaṁ
for one anotheraññamaññassa
pleasuresukhāya
orvā
paindukkhāya
orvā
pleasure·painsukhadukkhāya
orvā.
whichKatame
sevensatta?
earth·bodyPathavīkāyo
water·bodyāpokāyo
fire·bodytejokāyo
air·bodyvāyokāyo
pleasuresukhe
paindukkhe
souljīve
seventhsattame—
theseime
seven·bodysattakāyā
not·madeakaṭā
not·made·derivedakaṭavidhā
not·createdanimmitā
not·creatoranimmātā
barrenvañjhā
peak·standingkūṭaṭṭhā
pillar·standing·firmesikaṭṭhāyiṭṭhitā.
theyTe
notna
moveiñjanti
notna
apart·changevipariṇamanti
notna
one anotheraññamaññaṁ
obstructbyābādhenti.
unableNālaṁ
for one anotheraññamaññassa
pleasuresukhāya
orvā
paindukkhāya
orvā
pleasure·painsukhadukkhāya
orvā.
hereTattha
not·benatthi
killerhantā
orvā
one who makes killghātetā
orvā
learnersotā
orvā
one who makes learnsāvetā
orvā
apart·knowerviññātā
orvā
apart·causer of knowingviññāpetā
orvā.
who·everYopi
sharptiṇhena
swordsatthena
headsīsaṁ
chops offchindati,
notna
anyonekoci
anyonekañci
lifejīvitā
deprivesvoropeti.
of sevenSattannaṁ
indeedtveva
bodies·in the gap betweenkāyānamantarena
swordsatthaṁ
passes throughvivaramanupatati.
fourteen·fourteenCuddasa
indeedkho
thesepanimāni
womb·main·hundred-thousandsyonipamukhasatasahassāni
60saṭṭhi
andca
hundredssatāni
sixcha
andca
hundredssatāni
fivepañca
andca
deedskammuno
hundredssatāni
fivepañca
andca
deedskammāni
threetīṇi
andca
deedskammāni,
deedskamme
andca
half·deedaḍḍhakamme
andca,
62 paths of practicedvaṭṭhipaṭipadā,
62 sub-eonsdvaṭṭhantarakappā,
six classes of rebirthchaḷābhijātiyo,
eightaṭṭha
stages in a person’s lifepurisabhūmiyo,
less by one·fiftyekūnapaññāsa
Ājīvaka asceticsājīvakasate,
less by one·fiftyekūnapaññāsa
wanderersparibbājakasate,
less by one·fiftyekūnapaññāsa
dragon abodesnāgāvāsasate,
2,000vīse
lordshipsindriyasate,
3,000tiṁse
hellsnirayasate,
36chattiṁsa
realms of dusky skyrajodhātuyo,
sevensatta
percipient embryossaññīgabbhā,
sevensatta
non-percipient embryosasaññīgabbhā,
sevensatta
knotless embryosnigaṇṭhigabbhā,
sevensatta
godsdevā,
sevensatta
mental heavensmānusā,
sevensatta
goblinspesācā,
sevensatta
streamssarā,
sevensatta
castoff incarnationspavuṭā,
sevensatta
downfallspapātā,
sevensatta
700 downfallspapātasatāni,
sevensatta
dreamssupinā,
sevensatta
700 dreamssupinasatāni,
8.4 millioncullāsīti
great·eonsmahākappino
hundred-thousandssatasahassāni,
through whichyāni
the foolishbāle
andca
the astutepaṇḍite
andca
having transmigratedsandhāvitvā
having wandered onsaṁsaritvā
suffering·end·enddukkhassantaṁ
will makekarissanti.
thereTattha
not·isnatthi
by this + Iimināhaṁ
by preceptsīlena
orvā
by observancevatena
orvā
by fervent austeritytapena
orvā
by spiritual practicebrahmacariyena
orvā
un·ripenedaparipakkaṁ
orvā
deedkammaṁ
I shall force to ripenparipācessāmi,
ripenedparipakkaṁ
orvā
deedkammaṁ
having experiencedphussa
having experiencedphussa
eliminationbyantiṁ
I shall makekarissāmīti.
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