With Sandaka · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral
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Sace
imassa
bhoto
satthuno
saccaṁ
vacanaṁ,
akatena
me
ettha
kataṁ,
avusitena
me
ettha
vusitaṁ.
Ubhopi
mayaṁ
ettha
samasamā
sāmaññaṁ
pattā,
yo
cāhaṁ
na
vadāmi
‘ubhinnaṁ
kurutaṁ
na
karīyati
pāpan’ti.
Atirekaṁ
kho
panimassa
bhoto
satthuno
naggiyaṁ
muṇḍiyaṁ
ukkuṭikappadhānaṁ
kesamassulocanaṁ,
yohaṁ
puttasambādhasayanaṁ
ajjhāvasanto
kāsikacandanaṁ
paccanubhonto
mālāgandhavilepanaṁ
dhārento
jātarūparajataṁ
sādiyanto
iminā
bhotā
satthārā
samasamagatiko
bhavissāmi
abhisamparāyaṁ.
Sohaṁ
kiṁ
jānanto
kiṁ
passanto
imasmiṁ
satthari
brahmacariyaṁ
carissāmi?
‘So
abrahmacariyavāso
ayan’ti
iti
viditvā
tasmā
brahmacariyā
nibbijja
pakkamati.
If what that teacher says is true, both I who have not accomplished this and one who has accomplished it have attained exactly the same level. Yet I’m not one who says that when both of us act, nothing wrong is done. But it’s superfluous for this teacher to go nude, bald, persisting in squatting, tearing out their hair and beard. For I’m living at home with my children, using sandalwood imported from Kāsi, wearing garlands, fragrance, and makeup, and accepting gold and currency. Yet I’ll have exactly the same destiny in the next life as this teacher. What do I know or see that I should lead the spiritual life under this teacher? This negates the spiritual life.’ Realizing this, they leave disappointed.
Ayaṁ kho, sandaka, tena bhagavatā jānatā passatā arahatā sammāsambuddhena dutiyo abrahmacariyavāso akkhāto yattha viññū puriso sasakkaṁ brahmacariyaṁ na vaseyya, vasanto ca nārādheyya ñāyaṁ dhammaṁ kusalaṁ.
This is the second way that negates the spiritual life.
Puna
caparaṁ,
sandaka,
idhekacco
satthā
evaṁvādī
hoti
evaṁdiṭṭhi:
‘natthi
hetu,
natthi
paccayo
sattānaṁ
saṅkilesāya;
ahetū
appaccayā
sattā
saṅkilissanti;
natthi
hetu,
natthi
paccayo
sattānaṁ
visuddhiyā;
ahetū
appaccayā
sattā
visujjhanti;
natthi
balaṁ,
natthi
vīriyaṁ,
natthi
purisathāmo,
natthi
purisaparakkamo;
sabbe
sattā
sabbe
pāṇā
sabbe
bhūtā
sabbe
jīvā
avasā
abalā
avīriyā
niyatisaṅgatibhāvapariṇatā
chasvevābhijātīsu
sukhadukkhaṁ
paṭisaṁvedentī’ti.
Furthermore, take a certain teacher who has this doctrine and view: ‘There is no cause or reason for the corruption of sentient beings. Sentient beings are corrupted without cause or reason. There’s no cause or reason for the purification of sentient beings. Sentient beings are purified without cause or reason. There is no power, no energy, no human strength or vigor. All sentient beings, all living creatures, all beings, all souls lack control, power, and energy. Molded by destiny, circumstance, and nature, they experience pleasure and pain in the six classes of rebirth.’
Tatra,
sandaka,
viññū
puriso
iti
paṭisañcikkhati:
‘ayaṁ
kho
bhavaṁ
satthā
evaṁvādī
evaṁdiṭṭhi—
natthi
hetu,
natthi
paccayo
sattānaṁ
saṅkilesāya,
ahetū
appaccayā
sattā
saṅkilissanti.
Natthi
hetu
natthi
paccayo
sattānaṁ
visuddhiyā,
ahetū
appaccayā
sattā
visujjhanti.
Natthi
balaṁ,
natthi
vīriyaṁ,
natthi
purisathāmo,
natthi
purisaparakkamo,
sabbe
sattā
sabbe
pāṇā
sabbe
bhūtā
sabbe
jīvā
avasā
abalā
avīriyā
niyatisaṅgatibhāvapariṇatā
chasvevābhijātīsu
sukhadukkhaṁ
paṭisaṁvedentī’ti.
Sace
imassa
bhoto
satthuno
saccaṁ
vacanaṁ,
akatena
me
ettha
kataṁ,
avusitena
me
ettha
vusitaṁ.
Ubhopi
mayaṁ
ettha
samasamā
sāmaññaṁ
pattā,
yo
cāhaṁ
na
vadāmi
‘ubho
ahetū
appaccayā
visujjhissāmā’ti.
A sensible person reflects on this matter in this way: ‘This teacher has such a doctrine and view. If what that teacher says is true, both I who have not accomplished this and one who has accomplished it have attained exactly the same level. Yet I’m not one who says that both of us are purified without cause or reason.
Atirekaṁ
kho
panimassa
bhoto
satthuno
naggiyaṁ
muṇḍiyaṁ
ukkuṭikappadhānaṁ
kesamassulocanaṁ,
yohaṁ
puttasambādhasayanaṁ
ajjhāvasanto
kāsikacandanaṁ
paccanubhonto
mālāgandhavilepanaṁ
dhārento
jātarūparajataṁ
sādiyanto
iminā
bhotā
satthārā
samasamagatiko
bhavissāmi
abhisamparāyaṁ.
Sohaṁ
kiṁ
jānanto
kiṁ
passanto
imasmiṁ
satthari
brahmacariyaṁ
carissāmi?
‘So
abrahmacariyavāso
ayan’ti—
iti
viditvā
tasmā
brahmacariyā
nibbijja
pakkamati.
But it’s superfluous for this teacher to go nude, bald, persisting in squatting, tearing out their hair and beard. For I’m living at home with my children, using sandalwood imported from Kāsi, wearing garlands, fragrance, and makeup, and accepting gold and currency. Yet I’ll have exactly the same destiny in the next life as this teacher. What do I know or see that I should lead the spiritual life under this teacher? This negates the spiritual life.’ Realizing this, they leave disappointed.
Ayaṁ kho, sandaka, tena bhagavatā jānatā passatā arahatā sammāsambuddhena tatiyo abrahmacariyavāso akkhāto yattha viññū puriso sasakkaṁ brahmacariyaṁ na vaseyya, vasanto ca nārādheyya ñāyaṁ dhammaṁ kusalaṁ.
This is the third way that negates the spiritual life.
Puna
caparaṁ,
sandaka,
idhekacco
satthā
evaṁvādī
hoti
evaṁdiṭṭhi:
‘sattime
kāyā
akaṭā
akaṭavidhā
animmitā
animmātā
vañjhā
kūṭaṭṭhā
esikaṭṭhāyiṭṭhitā,
te
na
iñjanti
na
vipariṇamanti
na
aññamaññaṁ
byābādhenti
nālaṁ
aññamaññassa
sukhāya
vā
dukkhāya
vā
sukhadukkhāya
vā.
Katame
satta?
Pathavīkāyo
āpokāyo
tejokāyo
vāyokāyo
sukhe
dukkhe
jīve
sattame—
ime
sattakāyā
akaṭā
akaṭavidhā
animmitā
animmātā
vañjhā
kūṭaṭṭhā
esikaṭṭhāyiṭṭhitā.
Te
na
iñjanti
na
vipariṇamanti
na
aññamaññaṁ
byābādhenti.
Nālaṁ
aññamaññassa
sukhāya
vā
dukkhāya
vā
sukhadukkhāya
vā.
Tattha
natthi
hantā
vā
ghātetā
vā
sotā
vā
sāvetā
vā
viññātā
vā
viññāpetā
vā.
Yopi
tiṇhena
satthena
sīsaṁ
chindati,
na
koci
kañci
jīvitā
voropeti.
Sattannaṁ
tveva
kāyānamantarena
satthaṁ
vivaramanupatati.
Furthermore, take a certain teacher who has this doctrine and view: ‘There are these seven substances that are not made, not derived, not created, without a creator, barren, steady as a mountain peak, standing firm like a pillar. They don’t move or deteriorate or obstruct each other. They’re unable to cause pleasure, pain, or both pleasure and pain to each other. What seven? The substances of earth, water, fire, air; pleasure, pain, and the soul is the seventh. These seven substances are not made, not derived, not created, without a creator, barren, steady as a mountain peak, standing firm like a pillar. They don’t move or deteriorate or obstruct each other. They’re unable to cause pleasure, pain, or both pleasure and pain to each other. And here there is no one who kills or who makes others kill; no one who learns or who educates others; no one who understands or who helps others understand. If you chop off someone’s head with a sharp sword, you don’t take anyone’s life. The sword simply passes through the gap between the seven substances.
Cuddasa
kho
panimāni
yonipamukhasatasahassāni
saṭṭhi
ca
satāni
cha
ca
satāni
pañca
ca
kammuno
satāni
pañca
ca
kammāni
tīṇi
ca
kammāni,
kamme
ca
aḍḍhakamme
ca,
dvaṭṭhipaṭipadā,
dvaṭṭhantarakappā,
chaḷābhijātiyo,
aṭṭha
purisabhūmiyo,
ekūnapaññāsa
ājīvakasate,
ekūnapaññāsa
paribbājakasate,
ekūnapaññāsa
nāgāvāsasate,
vīse
indriyasate,
tiṁse
nirayasate,
chattiṁsa
rajodhātuyo,
satta
saññīgabbhā,
satta
asaññīgabbhā,
satta
nigaṇṭhigabbhā,
satta
devā,
satta
mānusā,
satta
pesācā,
satta
sarā,
satta
pavuṭā,
satta
papātā,
satta
papātasatāni,
satta
supinā,
satta
supinasatāni,
cullāsīti
mahākappino
satasahassāni,
yāni
bāle
ca
paṇḍite
ca
sandhāvitvā
saṁsaritvā
dukkhassantaṁ
karissanti.
Tattha
natthi
imināhaṁ
sīlena
vā
vatena
vā
tapena
vā
brahmacariyena
vā
aparipakkaṁ
vā
kammaṁ
paripācessāmi,
paripakkaṁ
vā
kammaṁ
phussa
phussa
byantiṁ
karissāmīti.
There are 1.4 million main wombs, and 6,000, and 600; 500 deeds, and five, and three; deeds and half-deeds; 62 paths of practice, 62 sub-eons, six classes of rebirth, and eight stages in a person’s life; 4,900 Ājīvaka ascetics, 4,900 wanderers, and 4,900 dragon abodes; 2,000 lordships, 3,000 hells, and 36 realms of dusky sky; seven percipient embryos, seven non-percipient embryos, seven knotless embryos, seven gods, seven mental heavens, seven goblins, seven streams, seven castoff incarnations and 700 castoff incarnations, seven downfalls and 700 downfalls, seven dreams and 700 dreams, and 8.4 million great eons—through all of which the foolish and the astute transmigrate before making an end of suffering. And here there is no such thing as this: “By this precept or observance or fervent austerity or spiritual practice I shall force unripened deeds to bear their fruit, or eliminate old deeds by experiencing their results little by little”—for that cannot be.
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