With Sandaka · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral
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here“Idha,
Sandakasandaka,
a certain oneekacco
teachersatthā
all-knowingsabbaññū
all-seeingsabbadassāvī
without exceptionaparisesaṁ
knowledge and visionñāṇadassanaṁ
claimspaṭijānāti:
while walking‘carato
andca
for meme
while standingtiṭṭhato
andca
while sleepingsuttassa
andca
while wakingjāgarassa
andca
constantlysatataṁ
continuallysamitaṁ
knowledge and visionñāṇadassanaṁ
presentpaccupaṭṭhitan’ti.
heSo
even an emptysuññampi
houseagāraṁ
enterspavisati,
even almsfoodpiṇḍampi
notna
getslabhati,
even a dogkukkuropi
bitesḍaṁsati,
even with a wildcaṇḍenapi
elephanthatthinā
encounterssamāgacchati,
even with a wildcaṇḍenapi
horseassena
encounterssamāgacchati,
even with a wildcaṇḍenapi
cowgoṇena
encounterssamāgacchati,
of a woman tooitthiyāpi
of a man toopurisassapi
even namenāmampi
even clangottampi
askspucchati,
of a village toogāmassapi
of a town toonigamassapi
even namenāmampi
even pathmaggampi
askspucchati.
“Sandaka, take a certain teacher who claims to be all-knowing and all-seeing, to know and see everything without exception, thus: ‘Knowledge and vision are constantly and continually present to me, while walking, standing, sleeping, and waking.’ They enter an empty house; they get no almsfood; a dog bites them; they encounter a wild elephant, a wild horse, and a wild cow; they ask the name and clan of a woman or man; they ask the name and path to a village or town.
heSo “why is this?”‘kimidan’ti askedpuṭṭho beingsamāno empty‘suññaṁ myme houseagāraṁ had to be enteredpavisitabbaṁ it wasahosi’, by thattena I enteredpāvisiṁ; even almsfood‘piṇḍampi had to be gottenaladdhabbaṁ it wasahosi’, by thattena I did not getnālatthaṁ; by a dog‘kukkurena had to be bittenḍaṁsitabbaṁ it wasahosi’, by that Itenamhi bittendaṭṭho; wild‘caṇḍena with an elephanthatthinā had to be encounteredsamāgantabbaṁ it wasahosi’, by thattena I encounteredsamāgamiṁ; wild‘caṇḍena with a horseassena had to be encounteredsamāgantabbaṁ it wasahosi’, by thattena I encounteredsamāgamiṁ; wild‘caṇḍena with a cowgoṇena had to be encounteredsamāgantabbaṁ it wasahosi’, by thattena I encounteredsamāgamiṁ; even of a woman‘itthiyāpi even of a manpurisassapi even the namenāmampi even the clangottampi had to be askedpucchitabbaṁ it wasahosi’, by thattena I askedpucchiṁ; even of a village‘gāmassapi even of a townnigamassapi even the namenāmampi even the pathmaggampi had to be askedpucchitabbaṁ it wasahosi’, by thattena I askedpucchinti.
When asked, ‘Why is this?’ they answer: ‘I had to enter an empty house, that’s why I entered it. I had to get no almsfood, that’s why I got none. I had to get bitten by a dog, that’s why I was bitten. I had to encounter a wild elephant, a wild horse, and a wild cow, that’s why I encountered them. I had to ask the name and clan of a woman or man, that’s why I asked. I had to ask the name and path to a village or town, that’s why I asked.’
thereTatra,
Sandakasandaka,
a discerningviññū
personpuriso
thusiti
reflectspaṭisañcikkhati:
this‘ayaṁ
indeedkho
honourablebhavaṁ
teachersatthā
all-knowingsabbaññū
all-seeingsabbadassāvī
without remainderaparisesaṁ
knowledge and visionñāṇadassanaṁ
claimspaṭijānāti
…pe……pe…
even of a village‘gāmassapi
even of a townnigamassapi
even the namenāmampi
even the roadmaggampi
should be askedpucchitabbaṁ
wasahosi,
by himtena
askpucchin’ti.
heSo
unreliable‘anassāsikaṁ
thisidaṁ
spiritual lifebrahmacariyan’ti—
thusiti
having knownviditvā
thereforetasmā
from the spiritual lifebrahmacariyā
disappointednibbijja
leavespakkamati.
A sensible person reflects on this matter in this way: ‘This teacher makes such a claim, but they answer in such a way. This spiritual life is unreliable.’ Realizing this, they leave disappointed.
thisIdaṁ indeedkho, Sandakasandaka, by thattena by the Blessed Onebhagavatā knowingjānatā seeingpassatā by the Arahantarahatā by the Fully Enlightened Onesammāsambuddhena firstpaṭhamaṁ unreliableanassāsikaṁ spiritual lifebrahmacariyaṁ declaredakkhātaṁ whereinyattha a wiseviññū personpuriso with respectsasakkaṁ spiritual lifebrahmacariyaṁ notna would livevaseyya, livingvasanto andca would not attainnārādheyya the trueñāyaṁ teachingdhammaṁ wholesomekusalaṁ.
This is the first kind of unreliable spiritual life.
furthermorePuna
and anothercaparaṁ,
Sandakasandaka,
here someidhekacco
teachersatthā
an oral transmitteranussaviko
ishoti
who takes oral transmission to be the truthanussavasacco.
heSo
by oral transmissionanussavena
by the lineage of testamentitihitihaparamparāya
by canonical authoritypiṭakasampadāya
dhammadhammaṁ
teachesdeseti.
of an oral transmitterAnussavikassa
indeedkho
butpana,
Sandakasandaka,
of a teachersatthuno
who takes oral transmission to be the truthanussavasaccassa
some is well learnedsussutampi
ishoti
some is poorly learneddussutampi
ishoti
some is truetathāpi
ishoti
some is otherwiseaññathāpi
ishoti.
Furthermore, take another teacher who is an oral transmitter, who takes oral transmission to be the truth. They teach by oral transmission, by the lineage of testament, by canonical authority. But when a teacher takes oral transmission to be the truth, some of that is well learned, some poorly learned, some true, and some otherwise.
thereTatra,
Sandakasandaka,
sensibleviññū
personpuriso
thusiti
reflectspaṭisañcikkhati:
this‘ayaṁ
indeedkho
venerablebhavaṁ
teachersatthā
one who relies on oral transmissionanussaviko
taking oral transmission as truthanussavasacco
heso
by oral transmissionanussavena
by the lineage of testamentitihitihaparamparāya
by canonical authoritypiṭakasampadāya
the dhammadhammaṁ
teachesdeseti.
for one who relies on oral transmissionAnussavikassa
indeedkho
butpana
of a teachersatthuno
taking oral transmission as truthanussavasaccassa
well learned toosussutampi
there ishoti
poorly learned toodussutampi
there ishoti
true tootathāpi
there ishoti
otherwise tooaññathāpi
there ishoti’.
heSo
unreliable‘anassāsikaṁ
thisidaṁ
spiritual lifebrahmacariyan’ti—
thusiti
having realizedviditvā
from thattasmā
from the spiritual lifebrahmacariyā
disappointednibbijja
leavespakkamati.
A sensible person reflects on this matter in this way: ‘This teacher takes oral transmission to be the truth. He teaches by oral transmission, by the lineage of testament, by canonical authority. But when a teacher takes oral transmission to be the truth, some of that is well learned, some poorly learned, some true, and some otherwise. This spiritual life is unreliable.’ Realizing this, they leave disappointed.
thisIdaṁ indeedkho, Sandakasandaka, by thattena by the Blessed Onebhagavatā knowingjānatā seeingpassatā by the Arahantarahatā by the Fully Enlightened Onesammāsambuddhena seconddutiyaṁ unreliableanassāsikaṁ spiritual lifebrahmacariyaṁ declaredakkhātaṁ whereyattha wiseviññū manpuriso wholeheartedlysasakkaṁ spiritual lifebrahmacariyaṁ notna would livevaseyya, livingvasanto andca would not attainnārādheyya the trueñāyaṁ dhammadhammaṁ wholesomekusalaṁ.
This is the second kind of unreliable spiritual life.
againPuna
and furthercaparaṁ,
Sandakasandaka,
here someidhekacco
a teachersatthā
a reasonertakkī
ishoti
an investigatorvīmaṁsī.
heSo
hammered out by logictakkapariyāhataṁ
followed by inquiryvīmaṁsānucaritaṁ
own inspirationsayampaṭibhānaṁ
teachingdhammaṁ
teachesdeseti.
of a reasonerTakkissa
indeedkho
butpana,
Sandakasandaka,
of a teachersatthuno
of an investigatorvīmaṁsissa
well reasoned alsosutakkitampi
ishoti
poorly reasoned alsoduttakkitampi
ishoti
true alsotathāpi
ishoti
otherwise alsoaññathāpi
ishoti.
Furthermore, take another teacher who relies on logic and inquiry. They teach what they have worked out by logic, following a line of inquiry, expressing their own perspective. But when a teacher relies on logic and inquiry, some of that is well reasoned, some poorly reasoned, some true, and some otherwise.
thereTatra,
Sandakasandaka,
sensibleviññū
personpuriso
thusiti
reflectspaṭisañcikkhati:
this‘ayaṁ
indeedkho
good sirbhavaṁ
teachersatthā
relies on logictakkī
inquiryvīmaṁsī.
heSo
worked out by logictakkapariyāhataṁ
following a line of inquiryvīmaṁsānucaritaṁ
expressing their own perspectivesayampaṭibhānaṁ
teachingdhammaṁ
teachesdeseti.
of one who relies on logicTakkissa
indeedkho
butpana
of a teachersatthuno
of one who inquiresvīmaṁsissa
well reasoned toosutakkitampi
ishoti
poorly reasoned tooduttakkitampi
ishoti
true tootathāpi
ishoti
otherwise tooaññathāpi
ishoti’.
heSo
unreliable‘anassāsikaṁ
thisidaṁ
spiritual lifebrahmacariyan’ti—
thusiti
having realizedviditvā
from thattasmā
from the spiritual lifebrahmacariyā
disappointednibbijja
departspakkamati.
A sensible person reflects on this matter in this way: ‘This teacher relies on logic and inquiry. They teach what they have worked out by logic, following a line of inquiry, expressing their own perspective. But when a teacher relies on logic and inquiry, some of that is well reasoned, some poorly reasoned, some true, and some otherwise. This spiritual life is unreliable.’ Realizing this, they leave disappointed.
thisIdaṁ indeedkho, Sandakasandaka, by thattena by the Blessed Onebhagavatā by the one who knowsjānatā by the one who seespassatā by the Arahantarahatā by the Fully Enlightened Onesammāsambuddhena thirdtatiyaṁ unreliableanassāsikaṁ spiritual lifebrahmacariyaṁ declaredakkhātaṁ whereinyattha a wiseviññū manpuriso wholeheartedlysasakkaṁ spiritual lifebrahmacariyaṁ notna would livevaseyya, livingvasanto andca would not attainnārādheyya the trueñāyaṁ dhammadhammaṁ wholesomekusalaṁ.
This is the third kind of unreliable spiritual life.
furthermorePuna
and furthercaparaṁ,
Sandakasandaka,
here someidhekacco
teachersatthā
dullmando
ishoti
stupidmomūho.
heSo
because of dullnessmandattā
because of stupiditymomūhattā
theretattha
theretattha
a questionpañhaṁ
askedpuṭṭho
beingsamāno
verbal flip-flopsvācāvikkhepaṁ
resorts toāpajjati
endless flip-flops:amarāvikkhepaṁ:
I don't say it's like this‘evantipi
Ime
do notno,
I don't say it's like thattathātipi
Ime
do notno,
I don't say it's otherwiseaññathātipi
Ime
do notno,
I don't say it's not sonotipi
Ime
do notno,
and I don't denyno
it's not sonotipi
Ime
do notno’ti.
Furthermore, take another teacher who is dull and stupid. Because of that, whenever they’re asked a question, they resort to verbal flip-flops and endless flip-flops: ‘I don’t say it’s like this. I don’t say it’s like that. I don’t say it’s otherwise. I don’t say it’s not so. And I don’t deny it’s not so.’
There,Tatra,
Sandaka,sandaka,
sensibleviññū
personpuriso
thusiti
reflects:paṭisañcikkhati:
'this‘ayaṁ
indeedkho
venerablebhavaṁ
teachersatthā
dullmando
stupid.momūho.
HeSo
because of dullnessmandattā
because of stupiditymomūhattā
theretattha
theretattha
a questionpañhaṁ
askedpuṭṭho
beingsamāno
verbal flip-floppingvācāvikkhepaṁ
resorts toāpajjati
endless flip-flopping—amarāvikkhepaṁ—
thus indeedevantipi
for meme
no,no,
so indeedtathātipi
for meme
no,no,
otherwise indeedaññathātipi
for meme
no,no,
not indeednotipi
for meme
no,no,
nono
not indeednotipi
for meme
no.'no’ti.
ThisSo
'unreliable‘anassāsikaṁ
thisidaṁ
spiritual life'—brahmacariyan’ti—
thusiti
having understoodviditvā
from thattasmā
spiritual lifebrahmacariyā
disappointednibbijja
departs.pakkamati.
A sensible person reflects on this matter in this way: ‘This teacher is dull and stupid. Because of that, whenever they’re asked a question, they resort to verbal flip-flops and endless flip-flops: “I don’t say it’s like this. I don’t say it’s like that. I don’t say it’s otherwise. I don’t say it’s not so. And I don’t deny it’s not so.” This spiritual life is unreliable.’ Realizing this, they leave disappointed.
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