The Shorter Discourse With Sakuludāyī · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral
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thusEvaṁ
by meme
heardsutaṁ—
oneekaṁ
timesamayaṁ
the Blessed Onebhagavā
at Rājagaharājagahe
was stayingviharati
in the Bamboo Groveveḷuvane
in the squirrels’ feeding groundkalandakanivāpe.
by thatTena
indeedkho
nowpana
at that timesamayena
Sakuludāyīsakuludāyī
the wandererparibbājako
in the peacocks’ feeding groundmoranivāpe
in the wanderers’ monasteryparibbājakārāme
against·dwellpaṭivasati
with a largemahatiyā
wanderer·assemblyparibbājakaparisāya
together withsaddhiṁ.
So I have heard. At one time the Buddha was staying near Rājagaha in the Bamboo Grove, the squirrels’ feeding ground. Now at that time the wanderer Sakuludāyī was residing together with a large assembly of wanderers in their monastery in the peacocks’ feeding ground.
thenAtha
indeedkho
the Blessed Onebhagavā
morning·timepubbaṇhasamayaṁ
down·dressnivāsetvā
bowl·robe·takingpattacīvaramādāya
Rājagaharājagahaṁ
for almspiṇḍāya
enteredpāvisi.
thenAtha
indeedkho
to the Blessed Onebhagavato
this·wasetadahosi:
it is too early“atippago
indeedkho
yettāva
in Rājagaharājagahe
for almspiṇḍāya
to wandercarituṁ.
why·not·IYannūnāhaṁ
whereyena
peacock·feeding-groundmoranivāpo
monastery for the wanderersparibbājakārāmo
whereyena
Sakuludāyīsakuludāyī
the wandererparibbājako
there I might approach himtenupasaṅkameyyan”ti.
thenAtha
indeedkho
the Blessed Onebhagavā
whereyena
peacock·feeding-groundmoranivāpo
monastery for the wanderersparibbājakārāmo
there·approachtenupasaṅkami.
Then the Buddha robed up in the morning and, taking his bowl and robe, entered Rājagaha for alms. Then it occurred to him, “It’s too early to wander for alms in Rājagaha. Why don’t I visit the wanderer Sakuludāyī at the monastery for the wanderers in the peacocks’ feeding ground?” Then the Buddha went to the monastery for the wanderers.
by thatTena
indeedkho
nowpana
at the timesamayena
Sakuludāyīsakuludāyī
the wandererparibbājako
of a largemahatiyā
wanderer·assemblyparibbājakaparisāya
togethersaddhiṁ
down·sitnisinno
washoti
up·soundingunnādiniyā
loud noise + colossal racketuccāsaddamahāsaddāya
various·kindsanekavihitaṁ
low·talktiracchānakathaṁ
engaging inkathentiyā,
that is to sayseyyathidaṁ—
king·talkrājakathaṁ
bandit·talkcorakathaṁ
chief minister·talkmahāmattakathaṁ
army·talksenākathaṁ
threat·talkbhayakathaṁ
war·talkyuddhakathaṁ
food·talkannakathaṁ
drink·talkpānakathaṁ
clothes·talkvatthakathaṁ
bed·talksayanakathaṁ
garland·talkmālākathaṁ
fragrance·talkgandhakathaṁ
family·talkñātikathaṁ
vehicle·talkyānakathaṁ
village·talkgāmakathaṁ
town·talknigamakathaṁ
city·talknagarakathaṁ
country·talkjanapadakathaṁ
woman·talkitthikathaṁ
hero·talksūrakathaṁ
street·talkvisikhākathaṁ
water-pot place·talkkumbhaṭṭhānakathaṁ
departed·talkpubbapetakathaṁ
motley·talknānattakathaṁ
land·taleslokakkhāyikaṁ
sea·talessamuddakkhāyikaṁ
talk about being reborn in this or that placeitibhavābhavakathaṁ
thusiti
orvā.
sawAddasā
indeedkho
Sakuludāyīsakuludāyī
the wandererparibbājako
the Blessed Onebhagavantaṁ
afar + justdūratova
comingāgacchantaṁ.
having seenDisvāna
his ownsakaṁ
assemblyparisaṁ
hushedsaṇṭhāpesi:
be quiet“appasaddā
good fellowsbhonto
let them behontu,
do notmā
good fellowsbhonto
make a soundsaddamakattha.
thisAyaṁ
asceticsamaṇo
Gotamagotamo
comesāgacchati;
quiet·likesappasaddakāmo
indeedkho
nowpana
that venerableso
venerableāyasmā
of quietappasaddassa
praises quietvaṇṇavādī.
hopefullyAppeva
indeednāma
quietappasaddaṁ
assemblyparisaṁ
having knownviditvā
near·approachupasaṅkamitabbaṁ
would think fitmaññeyyā”ti.
thenAtha
indeedkho
thosete
wanderersparibbājakā
silenttuṇhī
fell silentahesuṁ.
Now at that time, Sakuludāyī was sitting together with a large assembly of wanderers making an uproar, a colossal racket. They engaged in all kinds of low talk, such as talk about kings, bandits, and chief ministers; talk about armies, threats, and wars; talk about food, drink, clothes, and beds; talk about garlands and fragrances; talk about family, vehicles, villages, towns, cities, and countries; talk about women and heroes; talk at the street market and the place for water pots; talk about the departed; motley talk; tales of land and sea; and talk about being reborn in this or that place. Sakuludāyī saw the Buddha coming off in the distance, and hushed his own assembly, “Be quiet, good fellows, don’t make a sound. Here comes the ascetic Gotama. The venerable likes quiet and praises quiet. Hopefully if he sees that our assembly is quiet he’ll see fit to approach.” Then those wanderers fell silent.
thenAtha
indeedkho
the Blessed Onebhagavā
to whereyena
Sakuludāyīsakuludāyī
the wandererparibbājako
he approached himtenupasaṅkami.
thenAtha
indeedkho
Sakuludāyīsakuludāyī
the wandererparibbājako
to the Blessed Onebhagavantaṁ
he said thisetadavoca:
let him come“etu
indeedkho,
sirbhante,
the Blessed Onebhagavā.
welcomeSvāgataṁ,
sirbhante,
of the Blessed Onebhagavato.
for a long timeCirassaṁ
indeedkho,
sirbhante,
the Blessed Onebhagavā
thisimaṁ
opportunity·madepariyāyamakāsi
which·thisyadidaṁ
for coming hereidhāgamanāya.
let him sit downNisīdatu,
sirbhante,
the Blessed Onebhagavā;
this·seatidamāsanaṁ
is readypaññattan”ti.
he sat downNisīdi
the Blessed Onebhagavā
on the seatpaññatte
spread outāsane.
Sakuludāyī·tooSakuludāyīpi
indeedkho
the wandererparibbājako
a certainaññataraṁ
lownīcaṁ
seatāsanaṁ
having takengahetvā
to one sideekamantaṁ
he sat downnisīdi.
to one sideEkamantaṁ
seatednisinnaṁ
indeedkho
Sakuludāyīsakuludāyiṁ
the wandererparibbājakaṁ
the Blessed Onebhagavā
he said thisetadavoca:
what“kāya
nownuttha,
Udāyīudāyi,
nowetarahi
by way of talkkathāya
you were sitting togethersannisinnā,
whatkā
andca
thenpana
of youvo
intermediate·talkantarākathā
was left unfinishedvippakatā”ti?
Then the Buddha approached Sakuludāyī, who said to him, “Let the Blessed One come, sir! Welcome to the Blessed One, sir! It’s been a long time since you took the opportunity to come here. Please, sir, sit down, this seat is ready.” The Buddha sat down on the seat spread out, while Sakuludāyī took a low seat and sat to one side. The Buddha said to him, “Udāyī, what were you sitting talking about just now? What conversation was left unfinished?”
let it stand“Tiṭṭhatesā,
sirbhante,
talkkathā
by whichyāya
wemayaṁ
just nowetarahi
talkkathāya
sitting engaged insannisinnā.
this is notNesā,
sirbhante,
talkkathā
of the Blessed Onebhagavato
hard to finddullabhā
will bebhavissati
later·toopacchāpi
for hearingsavanāya.
when IYadāhaṁ,
sirbhante,
thisimaṁ
assemblyparisaṁ
not·approachedanupasaṅkanto
I amhomi
then + thisathāyaṁ
assemblyparisā
many·variedanekavihitaṁ
animal·talktiracchānakathaṁ
speakingkathentī
sittingnisinnā
arehoti;
whenyadā
andca
indeedkho
Iahaṁ,
sirbhante,
thisimaṁ
assemblyparisaṁ
having approachedupasaṅkanto
I amhomi
then + thisathāyaṁ
assemblyparisā
my·own·verymamaññeva
facemukhaṁ
gazing up atullokentī
sittingnisinnā
arehoti:
whatever‘yaṁ
to usno
the asceticsamaṇo
Udāyīudāyī
Dhammadhammaṁ
will teachbhāsissati
thattaṁ
we will hearsossāmā’ti;
whenyadā
butpana,
sirbhante,
the Blessed Onebhagavā
thisimaṁ
assemblyparisaṁ
has approachedupasaṅkanto
ishoti
then + I·bothathāhañceva
this·andayañca
assemblyparisā
of the Blessed Onebhagavato
facemukhaṁ
gazing up atullokentā
sittingnisinnā
we arehoma:
whatever‘yaṁ
to usno
the Blessed Onebhagavā
Dhammadhammaṁ
will teachbhāsissati
thattaṁ
we will hearsossāmā’”ti.
“Sir, leave aside what we were sitting talking about just now. It won’t be hard for you to hear about that later. When I don’t come to the assembly, they sit and engage in all kinds of low talk. But when I have come to the assembly, they sit gazing up at my face alone, thinking, ‘Whatever the ascetic Udāyī teaches, we shall listen to it.’ But when the Buddha has come to the assembly, both myself and the assembly sit gazing up at your face, thinking, ‘Whatever the Buddha teaches, we shall listen to it.’”
well then, Udāyī“Tenahudāyi,
that very thing heretaṁyevettha
back·appearpaṭibhātu
asyathā
memaṁ
back·speakpaṭibhāseyyā”ti.
previous“Purimāni,
sirbhante,
daysdivasāni
longer agopurimatarāni
all·knowingsabbaññū
all·seeingsabbadassāvī
not·remainderaparisesaṁ
knowledge·visionñāṇadassanaṁ
against·knowpaṭijānamāno
while walking‘carato
andca
to meme
while standingtiṭṭhato
andca
while sleepingsuttassa
andca
while wakingjāgarassa
andca
constantlysatataṁ
continuallysamitaṁ
knowledge·visionñāṇadassanaṁ
is presentpaccupaṭṭhitan’ti.
heSo
by memayā
first·beginningpubbantaṁ
to·graspārabbha
a questionpañhaṁ
askedpuṭṭho
beingsamāno
dodgedaññenaññaṁ
behavedpaṭicari,
outsidebahiddhā
the discussionkathaṁ
distractedapanāmesi,
annoyance·andkopañca
hate·anddosañca
bitterness·andappaccayañca
displayedpātvākāsi.
of himTassa
of memayhaṁ,
sirbhante,
the Blessed Onebhagavantaṁyeva
to·graspārabbha
mindfulnesssati
aroseudapādi:
oh‘aho
surelynūna
Blessed Onebhagavā,
ohaho
surelynūna
Holy Onesugato.
whoYo
of theseimesaṁ
of dhammasdhammānaṁ
so skilledsukusalo’”ti.
who“Ko
thenpana
that oneso,
Udāyīudāyi,
all·knowingsabbaññū
all·seeingsabbadassāvī
not·remainderaparisesaṁ
knowledge·visionñāṇadassanaṁ
against·knowpaṭijānamāno
while walking‘carato
andca
to meme
while standingtiṭṭhato
andca
while sleepingsuttassa
andca
while wakingjāgarassa
andca
constantlysatataṁ
continuallysamitaṁ
knowledge·visionñāṇadassanaṁ
is presentpaccupaṭṭhitan’ti,
whoyo
by youtayā
first·beginningpubbantaṁ
to·graspārabbha
a questionpañhaṁ
askedpuṭṭho
beingsamāno
dodgedaññenaññaṁ
behavedpaṭicari,
outsidebahiddhā
the discussionkathaṁ
away·bendapanāmesi
annoyance·andkopañca
hate·anddosañca
bitterness·andappaccayañca
forth + madepātvākāsī”ti?
“Well then, Udāyī, suggest something for me to talk about.” “Sir, a few days ago someone was claiming to be all-knowing and all-seeing, to know and see everything without exception, thus: ‘Knowledge and vision are constantly and continually present to me, while walking, standing, sleeping, and waking.’ When I asked them a question about the first beginning, they dodged the issue, distracted the discussion with irrelevant points, and displayed annoyance, hate, and bitterness. That reminded me of the Buddha: ‘Surely it must be the Blessed One, the Holy One who is so skilled in such matters.’” “But Udāyī, who was it that made such a claim and behaved in such a way?”
the Jain ascetic“Nigaṇṭho, sirbhante, of the Ñātika clan, quotation markernāṭaputto”ti.
“It was the Jain ascetic of the Ñātika clan, sir.”
whoever“Yo
indeedkho,
Udāyīudāyi,
many·kindanekavihitaṁ
previous·lifepubbenivāsaṁ
would recollectanussareyya,
that isseyyathidaṁ—ekampi
birthjātiṁ
two·alsodvepi
birthsjātiyo
and so on…pe…
thusiti
with featuressākāraṁ
with·detailsauddesaṁ
many·kindanekavihitaṁ
previous·lifepubbenivāsaṁ
would recollectanussareyya,
heso
orvā
memaṁ
before·endpubbantaṁ
regardingārabbha
questionpañhaṁ
might askpuccheyya,
themtaṁ
or Ivāhaṁ
before·endpubbantaṁ
regardingārabbha
questionpañhaṁ
I might askpuccheyyaṁ;
heso
orvā
myme
before·endpubbantaṁ
regardingārabbha
of the questionpañhassa
with an answerveyyākaraṇena
mindcittaṁ
might satisfyārādheyya,
histassa
or Ivāhaṁ
before·endpubbantaṁ
regardingārabbha
of the questionpañhassa
with an answerveyyākaraṇena
mindcittaṁ
I might satisfyārādheyyaṁ.
whoeverYo
indeedkho,
Udāyīudāyi,
with the divinedibbena
with the eyecakkhunā
purifiedvisuddhena
surpassing the humanatikkantamānusakena
beingssatte
would seepasseyya
passing awaycavamāne
being rebornupapajjamāne
inferiorhīne
superiorpaṇīte
beautifulsuvaṇṇe
uglydubbaṇṇe
fortunatesugate
unfortunateduggate
according to their deedsyathākammūpage
beingssatte
would understandpajāneyya,
heso
orvā
memaṁ
future·endaparantaṁ
regardingārabbha
questionpañhaṁ
might askpuccheyya,
themtaṁ
or Ivāhaṁ
future·endaparantaṁ
regardingārabbha
questionpañhaṁ
I might askpuccheyyaṁ;
heso
orvā
myme
future·endaparantaṁ
regardingārabbha
of the questionpañhassa
with an answerveyyākaraṇena
mindcittaṁ
might satisfyārādheyya,
histassa
or Ivāhaṁ
future·endaparantaṁ
regardingārabbha
of the questionpañhassa
with an answerveyyākaraṇena
mindcittaṁ
I might satisfyārādheyyaṁ.
“Udāyī, someone who can recollect their many kinds of past lives, with features and details, might ask me a question about the first beginning, or I might ask them a question about the first beginning. And they might satisfy me with their answer, or I might satisfy them with my answer. Someone who, with clairvoyance that is purified and superhuman, understands how sentient beings pass on according to their deeds might ask me a question about the final end, or I might ask them a question about the final end. And they might satisfy me with their answer, or I might satisfy them with my answer.
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