With Prince Bodhi · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral
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to me too“Mayhampi
indeedkho,
princerājakumāra,
before + evenpubbeva
than awakeningsambodhā
not·awakenedanabhisambuddhassa
just of a bodhisattabodhisattasseva
beingsato
this occurredetadahosi:
not‘na
indeedkho
through pleasuresukhena
pleasuresukhaṁ
to be gainedadhigantabbaṁ,
through paindukkhena
indeedkho
pleasuresukhaṁ
to be gainedadhigantabban’ti.
thatSo
indeedkho
Iahaṁ,
princerājakumāra,
lateraparena
timesamayena
while youngdaharova
beingsamāno
with pristine black hairsusukāḷakeso
with auspiciousbhadrena
youthyobbanena
endowed withsamannāgato
firstpaṭhamena
agevayasā
unwillingakāmakānaṁ
mother and fathermātāpitūnaṁ
tearful-facedassumukhānaṁ
weepingrudantānaṁ
hair and beardkesamassuṁ
having shaved offohāretvā
ocherkāsāyāni
robesvatthāni
having dressed inacchādetvā
from homeagārasmā
homelessnessanagāriyaṁ
I went forthpabbajiṁ.
thatSo
thusevaṁ
gone forthpabbajito
beingsamāno
seeker of what is skillfulkiṅkusalagavesī
supremeanuttaraṁ
state of sublime peacesantivarapadaṁ
searching forpariyesamāno
whereyena
Āḷāraāḷāro
Kālāmakālāmo
I approachedtenupasaṅkamiṁ;
having approachedupasaṅkamitvā
Āḷāraāḷāraṁ
Kālāmakālāmaṁ
I said thisetadavocaṁ:
I wish‘icchāmahaṁ,
reverendāvuso
Kālāmakālāma,
in thisimasmiṁ
teaching and trainingdhammavinaye
spiritual lifebrahmacariyaṁ
to leadcaritun’ti.
thusEvaṁ
when saidvutte,
princerājakumāra,
Āḷāraāḷāro
Kālāmakālāmo
memaṁ
said thisetadavoca:
stay, venerable‘viharatāyasmā,
suchtādiso
thisayaṁ
teachingdhammo
whereyattha
sensibleviññū
personpuriso
before longnacirasseva
ownsakaṁ
own denominationācariyakaṁ
oneselfsayaṁ
with insightabhiññā
having realizedsacchikatvā
having achievedupasampajja
may livevihareyyā’ti.
thatSo
indeedkho
Iahaṁ,
princerājakumāra,
before longnacirasseva
quicklykhippameva
thattaṁ
teachingdhammaṁ
I memorizedpariyāpuṇiṁ.
thatSo
indeedkho
Iahaṁ,
princerājakumāra,
as far as thattāvatakeneva
lip-recitaloṭṭhapahatamattena
verbal repetitionlapitalāpanamattena
knowledge-doctrine + andñāṇavādañca
I speakvadāmi,
elder-doctrine + andtheravādañca
I knowjānāmi
I seepassāmīti
andca
I claimpaṭijānāmi,
I + and justahañceva
othersaññe
andca.
to meTassa
to memayhaṁ,
princerājakumāra,
this·wasetadahosi:
not‘na
indeedkho
Āḷāraāḷāro
Kālāmakālāmo
thisimaṁ
teachingdhammaṁ
solelykevalaṁ
faith·meresaddhāmattakena
myselfsayaṁ
with insightabhiññā
with own eyes·madesacchikatvā
near·attainedupasampajja
I liveviharāmīti
he declarespavedeti;
surelyaddhā
Āḷāraāḷāro
Kālāmakālāmo
thisimaṁ
teachingdhammaṁ
knowingjānaṁ
seeingpassaṁ
he livesviharatī’ti.
thenAtha
indeed·Ikhvāhaṁ,
princerājakumāra,
whereyena
Āḷāraāḷāro
Kālāmakālāmo
there·approachedtenupasaṅkamiṁ;
having approachedupasaṅkamitvā
Āḷāraāḷāraṁ
Kālāmakālāmaṁ
this·saidetadavocaṁ:
to what extent‘kittāvatā
indeedno,
reverendāvuso
Kālāmakālāma,
thisimaṁ
teachingdhammaṁ
oneselfsayaṁ
with direct knowledgeabhiññā
with own eyes·having madesacchikatvā
having attainedupasampajja
I liveviharāmīti
you declarepavedesī’ti?
thusEvaṁ
when saidvutte,
princerājakumāra,
Āḷāraāḷāro
Kālāmakālāmo
dimension of nothingnessākiñcaññāyatanaṁ
declaredpavedesi.
of thatTassa
of memayhaṁ,
princerājakumāra,
this·occurredetadahosi:
not‘na
indeedkho
only of Āḷāraāḷārasseva
of Kālāmakālāmassa
there isatthi
faithsaddhā,
I too havemayhampatthi
faithsaddhā;
notna
indeedkho
only of Āḷāraāḷārasseva
of Kālāmakālāmassa
there isatthi
energyvīriyaṁ
…pe……pe…
mindfulnesssati
……
immersionsamādhi
……
wisdompaññā,
I too havemayhampatthi
wisdompaññā.
why don't IYannūnāhaṁ
whichyaṁ
teachingdhammaṁ
Āḷāraāḷāro
Kālāmakālāmo
oneselfsayaṁ
with direct knowledgeabhiññā
with own eyes·having madesacchikatvā
having attainedupasampajja
I liveviharāmīti
declarespavedeti
of thattassa
of the teachingdhammassa
for the realizationsacchikiriyāya
may I strivepadaheyyan’ti.
thatSo
indeedkho
Iahaṁ,
princerājakumāra,
very quicklynacirasseva
quicklykhippameva
thattaṁ
teachingdhammaṁ
oneselfsayaṁ
with direct knowledgeabhiññā
with own eyes·having madesacchikatvā
having attainedupasampajja
I livedvihāsiṁ.
thenAtha
indeed·Ikhvāhaṁ,
princerājakumāra,
whereyena
Āḷāraāḷāro
Kālāmakālāmo
there·approachedtenupasaṅkamiṁ;
having approachedupasaṅkamitvā
Āḷāraāḷāraṁ
Kālāmakālāmaṁ
this·saidetadavocaṁ:
up to this point‘ettāvatā
for usno,
reverendāvuso
Kālāmakālāma,
thisimaṁ
teachingdhammaṁ
oneselfsayaṁ
higher·knowabhiññā
with own eyes·dosacchikatvā
up to·together·goupasampajja
you declarepavedesī’ti?
up to this point‘Ettāvatā
indeedkho
Iahaṁ,
reverendāvuso,
thisimaṁ
teachingdhammaṁ
oneselfsayaṁ
higher·knowabhiññā
with own eyes·dosacchikatvā
up to·together·goupasampajja
I declarepavedemī’ti.
I too‘Ahampi
indeedkho,
reverendāvuso,
up to this pointettāvatā
thisimaṁ
teachingdhammaṁ
oneselfsayaṁ
higher·knowabhiññā
with own eyes·dosacchikatvā
up to·together·goupasampajja
I dwellviharāmī’ti.
gains‘Lābhā
for usno,
reverendāvuso,
well·gainedsuladdhaṁ
for usno,
reverendāvuso,
whoye
wemayaṁ
venerableāyasmantaṁ
suchtādisaṁ
same·holy lifesabrahmacāriṁ
we seepassāma.
thusIti
which·Iyāhaṁ
teachingdhammaṁ
oneselfsayaṁ
higher·knowabhiññā
with own eyes·dosacchikatvā
up to·together·goupasampajja
I declarepavedemi,
thattaṁ
youtvaṁ
teachingdhammaṁ
oneselfsayaṁ
higher·knowabhiññā
with own eyes·dosacchikatvā
up to·together·goupasampajja
you dwellviharasi.
whichYaṁ
youtvaṁ
teachingdhammaṁ
oneselfsayaṁ
higher·knowabhiññā
with own eyes·dosacchikatvā
up to·together·goupasampajja
you dwellviharasi,
that·Itamahaṁ
teachingdhammaṁ
oneselfsayaṁ
higher·knowabhiññā
with own eyes·dosacchikatvā
up to·together·goupasampajja
I declarepavedemi.
thusIti
which·Iyāhaṁ
teachingdhammaṁ
I knowjānāmi
thattaṁ
youtvaṁ
teachingdhammaṁ
you knowjānāsi;
whichyaṁ
youtvaṁ
teachingdhammaṁ
you knowjānāsi
that·Itamahaṁ
teachingdhammaṁ
I knowjānāmi.
thusIti
such asyādiso
Iahaṁ,
suchtādiso
youtuvaṁ;
such asyādiso
youtuvaṁ
suchtādiso
Iahaṁ.
come!Ehi
nowdāni,
reverendāvuso,
bothubhova
beingsantā
thisimaṁ
communitygaṇaṁ
we should lead; quotation markerpariharāmā’ti.
thusIti
indeedkho,
princerājakumāra,
Āḷāraāḷāro
Kālāmakālāmo
teacherācariyo
myme
beingsamāno
his ownattano
pupilantevāsiṁ
memaṁ
beingsamānaṁ
with himselfattanā
in the same positionsamasamaṁ
placedṭhapesi,
with highuḷārāya
andca
memaṁ
with praisepūjāya
honoredpūjesi.
to himTassa
to memayhaṁ,
princerājakumāra,
this occurredetadahosi:
quotation marker; this‘nāyaṁ
teachingdhammo
to disillusionmentnibbidāya
notna
to dispassionvirāgāya
notna
to cessationnirodhāya
notna
to peaceupasamāya
notna
to insightabhiññāya
notna
to awakeningsambodhāya
notna
to extinguishmentnibbānāya
leadssaṁvattati,
only as far asyāvadeva
to rebirth in the dimension of nothingness; quotation markerākiñcaññāyatanūpapattiyā’ti.
thatSo
indeedkho
Iahaṁ,
princerājakumāra,
thattaṁ
teachingdhammaṁ
having found inadequateanalaṅkaritvā
from thattasmā
from the teachingdhammā
being disappointednibbijja
I leftapakkamiṁ.
thatSo
indeedkho
Iahaṁ,
princerājakumāra,
seeking what is skillfulkiṅkusalagavesī
supremeanuttaraṁ
state of sublime peacesantivarapadaṁ
seekingpariyesamāno
whereyena
Uddakaudako
son of Rāmarāmaputto
there I approachedtenupasaṅkamiṁ;
having approachedupasaṅkamitvā
to Uddakaudakaṁ
son of Rāmarāmaputtaṁ
this I saidetadavocaṁ:
quotation marker; I wish‘icchāmahaṁ,
reverendāvuso,
in thisimasmiṁ
teaching and trainingdhammavinaye
spiritual lifebrahmacariyaṁ
to lead; quotation markercaritun’ti.
thusEvaṁ
when saidvutte,
princerājakumāra,
Uddakaudako
son of Rāmarāmaputto
memaṁ
this saidetadavoca:
quotation marker; stay‘viharatāyasmā,
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