With Prince Bodhi · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral
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suchtādiso
thisayaṁ
teachingdhammo
whereinyattha
dis-·knowingviññū
personpuriso
not·long·onlynacirasseva
one's ownsakaṁ
teacher·belongingācariyakaṁ
oneselfsayaṁ
higher·knowledgeabhiññā
with own eyes·do·havingsacchikatvā
to·reachupasampajja
live + quotevihareyyā’ti.
thatSo
indeedkho
Iahaṁ,
king·princerājakumāra,
not·long·onlynacirasseva
quick·onlykhippameva
thattaṁ
teachingdhammaṁ
I memorizedpariyāpuṇiṁ.
thatSo
indeedkho
Iahaṁ,
king·princerājakumāra,
so much·onlytāvatakeneva
lip-struck·mereoṭṭhapahatamattena
verbal repetition·merelapitalāpanamattena
doctrine of knowledge·andñāṇavādañca
I speakvadāmi,
elder doctrine·andtheravādañca
I knowjānāmi
I see; quotepassāmīti
andca
I claimpaṭijānāmi,
I·and·onlyahañceva
othersaññe
andca.
to thatTassa
to memayhaṁ,
king·princerājakumāra,
this·wasetadahosi:
not‘na
indeedkho
Rāmarāmo
thisimaṁ
teachingdhammaṁ
solelykevalaṁ
faith·meresaddhāmattakena
by himselfsayaṁ
higher·knowledgeabhiññā
with own eyes·do·havingsacchikatvā
to·reachupasampajja
I live; quoteviharāmīti
he declaredpavedesi;
surelyaddhā
Rāmarāmo
thisimaṁ
teachingdhammaṁ
knowingjānaṁ
seeingpassaṁ
he lived; quote endvihāsī’ti.
thenAtha
indeed + Ikhvāhaṁ,
king·princerājakumāra,
whereyena
Uddakaudako
Rāma·sonrāmaputto
him + I approachedtenupasaṅkamiṁ;
near·goupasaṅkamitvā
Uddakaudakaṁ
Rāma·sonrāmaputtaṁ
this + I saidetadavocaṁ:
to what extent‘kittāvatā
thenno,
reverendāvuso,
Rāmarāmo
thisimaṁ
teachingdhammaṁ
oneselfsayaṁ
directly·knowabhiññā
with insight·having madesacchikatvā
near·having arrivedupasampajja
he said he dwelledviharāmīti
did he declarepavedesī’ti?
thusEvaṁ
when this was saidvutte,
king·princerājakumāra,
Uddakaudako
Rāma·sonrāmaputto
the dimension of neither perception nor non-perceptionnevasaññānāsaññāyatanaṁ
declaredpavedesi.
to meTassa
of memayhaṁ,
king·princerājakumāra,
this + it wasetadahosi:
not‘na
indeedkho
Rāma alonerāmasseva
he hadahosi
faithsaddhā,
I + too + there ismayhampatthi
faithsaddhā;
notna
indeedkho
Rāma alonerāmasseva
he hadahosi
energyvīriyaṁ
…pe……pe…
mindfulnesssati
……
immersionsamādhi
……
wisdompaññā,
I + too + there ismayhampatthi
wisdompaññā.
why don't IYannūnāhaṁ
whichyaṁ
teachingdhammaṁ
Rāmarāmo
oneselfsayaṁ
directly·knowabhiññā
with insight·having madesacchikatvā
near·having arrivedupasampajja
he said he dwelledviharāmīti
he declarespavedeti
of thattassa
teachingdhammassa
with insight + makingsacchikiriyāya
I should make an effortpadaheyyan’ti.
thatSo
indeedkho
Iahaṁ,
king·princerājakumāra,
not + after a long timenacirasseva
quick + onlykhippameva
thattaṁ
teachingdhammaṁ
oneselfsayaṁ
directly·knowabhiññā
with insight·having madesacchikatvā
near·having arrivedupasampajja
I dwelledvihāsiṁ.
thenAtha
indeed + Ikhvāhaṁ,
king·princerājakumāra,
whereyena
Uddakaudako
Rāma·sonrāmaputto
him + I approachedtenupasaṅkamiṁ;
near·goupasaṅkamitvā
Uddakaudakaṁ
Rāma·sonrāmaputtaṁ
this + I saidetadavocaṁ:
up to this point‘ettāvatā
for usno,
reverendāvuso,
Rāmarāmo
thisimaṁ
teachingdhammaṁ
himselfsayaṁ
having realized with insightabhiññā
with one's own eyes·dosacchikatvā
up to·together·goupasampajja
declared?pavedesī’ti?
up to this point‘Ettāvatā
indeedkho,
reverendāvuso,
Rāmarāmo
thisimaṁ
teachingdhammaṁ
himselfsayaṁ
having realized with insightabhiññā
with one's own eyes·dosacchikatvā
up to·together·goupasampajja
declared.pavedesī’ti.
I·also‘Ahampi
indeedkho,
reverendāvuso,
up to this pointettāvatā
thisimaṁ
teachingdhammaṁ
myselfsayaṁ
having realized with insightabhiññā
with one's own eyes·dosacchikatvā
up to·together·goupasampajja
I dwell.viharāmī’ti.
gains‘Lābhā
for usno,
reverendāvuso,
well·gainedsuladdhaṁ
for usno,
reverendāvuso,
whoye
wemayaṁ
the venerableāyasmantaṁ
suchtādisaṁ
together·spiritual companionsabrahmacāriṁ
we see.passāma.
thusIti
whichyaṁ
teachingdhammaṁ
Rāmarāmo
himselfsayaṁ
having realized with insightabhiññā
with one's own eyes·dosacchikatvā
up to·together·goupasampajja
forth·knowpavedesi
thattaṁ
youtvaṁ
teachingdhammaṁ
yourselfsayaṁ
having realized with insightabhiññā
with one's own eyes·dosacchikatvā
up to·together·goupasampajja
you dwell.viharasi.
whichYaṁ
youtvaṁ
teachingdhammaṁ
yourselfsayaṁ
having realized with insightabhiññā
with one's own eyes·dosacchikatvā
up to·together·goupasampajja
you dwellviharasi
thattaṁ
teachingdhammaṁ
Rāmarāmo
himselfsayaṁ
having realized with insightabhiññā
with one's own eyes·dosacchikatvā
up to·together·goupasampajja
declared.pavedesi.
thusIti
whichyaṁ
teachingdhammaṁ
Rāmarāmo
directly knewabhiññāsi
thattaṁ
youtvaṁ
teachingdhammaṁ
you know;jānāsi;
whichyaṁ
youtvaṁ
teachingdhammaṁ
you knowjānāsi
thattaṁ
teachingdhammaṁ
Rāmarāmo
directly knew.abhiññāsi.
thusIti
such asyādiso
Rāmarāmo
wasahosi
like thattādiso
youtuvaṁ,
such asyādiso
youtuvaṁ
like thattādiso
Rāmarāmo
wasahosi.
comeEhi
nowdāni,
reverendāvuso,
youtuvaṁ
thisimaṁ
communitygaṇaṁ
you should leadpariharā’ti.
thusIti
indeedkho,
princerājakumāra,
Uddakaudako
son of Rāmarāmaputto
spiritual companionsabrahmacārī
of meme
beingsamāno
in the position of a tutorācariyaṭṭhāne
memaṁ
placedṭhapesi,
with highuḷārāya
andca
memaṁ
praisepūjāya
honoredpūjesi.
of thatTassa
to memayhaṁ,
princerājakumāra,
it occurredetadahosi:
this‘nāyaṁ
teachingdhammo
to disillusionmentnibbidāya
notna
to dispassionvirāgāya
notna
to cessationnirodhāya
notna
to peaceupasamāya
notna
to insightabhiññāya
notna
to awakeningsambodhāya
notna
to extinguishmentnibbānāya
leadssaṁvattati,
only as far asyāvadeva
to rebirth in the dimension of neither perception nor non-perceptionnevasaññānāsaññāyatanūpapattiyā’ti.
thatSo
indeedkho
Iahaṁ,
princerājakumāra,
thattaṁ
teachingdhammaṁ
realizing inadequateanalaṅkaritvā
from thattasmā
teachingdhammā
disappointednibbijja
I leftapakkamiṁ.
ISo
indeedkho
Iahaṁ,
princerājakumāra,
what·skillful·seekingkiṅkusalagavesī
supremeanuttaraṁ
peace·sublime·statesantivarapadaṁ
seekingpariyesamāno,
in the Magadhan landsmagadhesu
stage by stageanupubbena
walking tourcārikaṁ
wanderingcaramāno,
whereyena
Uruvelāuruvelā
Senā·townsenānigamo
I arrivedtadavasariṁ.
there·sawTatthaddasaṁ
delightfulramaṇīyaṁ
parkbhūmibhāgaṁ,
lovely + andpāsādikañca
grovevanasaṇḍaṁ,
river + andnadiñca
flowingsandantiṁ
cleansetakaṁ
with smooth bankssupatitthaṁ,
delightfulramaṇīyaṁ
nearbysamantā
andca
village to resort to for almsgocaragāmaṁ.
of meTassa
mymayhaṁ,
princerājakumāra,
this occurred to himetadahosi:
delightful‘ramaṇīyo
trulyvata
sirbho
parkbhūmibhāgo,
lovelypāsādiko
andca
grovevanasaṇḍo,
rivernadī
andca
flowssandati
cleansetakā
with smooth bankssupatitthā,
delightfulramaṇīyā
nearbysamantā
andca
village to resort to for almsgocaragāmo.
sufficientAlaṁ
truly thisvatidaṁ
family·sonkulaputtassa
wanting to strivepadhānatthikassa
for strivingpadhānāyā’ti.
ISo
indeedkho
Iahaṁ,
princerājakumāra,
right theretattheva
sat downnisīdiṁ:
this is enough‘alamidaṁ
for strivingpadhānāyā’ti.
and·thenApissu to memaṁ, princerājakumāra, threetisso similesupamā back·appearpaṭibhaṁsu not·wondrousanacchariyā in the pastpubbe not·heard·beforeassutapubbā.
just as ifSeyyathāpi,
princerājakumāra,
greenallaṁ
logkaṭṭhaṁ
sappysasnehaṁ
in waterudake
lyingnikkhittaṁ.
thenAtha
personpuriso
would comeāgaccheyya
drill-stickuttarāraṇiṁ
having takenādāya:
fire‘aggiṁ
I will produceabhinibbattessāmi,
heattejo
I will revealpātukarissāmī’ti.
thatTaṁ
whatkiṁ
you thinkmaññasi,
princerājakumāra,
surelyapi
indeednu
thatso
personpuriso
thatamuṁ
greenallaṁ
logkaṭṭhaṁ
sappysasnehaṁ
in waterudake
lyingnikkhittaṁ
drill-stickuttarāraṇiṁ
having takenādāya
drillingabhimanthento
fireaggiṁ
would produceabhinibbatteyya,
heattejo
would revealpātukareyyā”ti?
no“No
indeedhidaṁ,
sirbhante.
thatTaṁ
of whatkissa
causehetu?
becauseAduñhi,
sirbhante,
greenallaṁ
logkaṭṭhaṁ
sappysasnehaṁ
and ittañca
thenpana
in waterudake
lyingnikkhittaṁ,
eventuallyyāvadeva
andca
thenpana
thatso
personpuriso
of wearinesskilamathassa
of frustrationvighātassa
sharerbhāgī
would beassā”ti.
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