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Majjhima Nikāya 85

Bodhirājakumārasutta

With Prince Bodhi · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral

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suchtādiso thisayaṁ teachingdhammo whereinyattha dis-·knowingviññū personpuriso not·long·onlynacirasseva one's ownsakaṁ teacher·belongingācariyakaṁ oneselfsayaṁ higher·knowledgeabhiññā with own eyes·do·havingsacchikatvā to·reachupasampajja live + quotevihareyyā’ti.
thatSo indeedkho Iahaṁ, king·princerājakumāra, not·long·onlynacirasseva quick·onlykhippameva thattaṁ teachingdhammaṁ I memorizedpariyāpuṇiṁ.
thatSo indeedkho Iahaṁ, king·princerājakumāra, so much·onlytāvatakeneva lip-struck·mereoṭṭhapahatamattena verbal repetition·merelapitalāpanamattena doctrine of knowledge·andñāṇavādañca I speakvadāmi, elder doctrine·andtheravādañca I knowjānāmi I see; quotepassāmīti andca I claimpaṭijānāmi, I·and·onlyahañceva othersaññe andca.
to thatTassa to memayhaṁ, king·princerājakumāra, this·wasetadahosi:
not‘na indeedkho Rāmarāmo thisimaṁ teachingdhammaṁ solelykevalaṁ faith·meresaddhāmattakena by himselfsayaṁ higher·knowledgeabhiññā with own eyes·do·havingsacchikatvā to·reachupasampajja I live; quoteviharāmīti he declaredpavedesi;
surelyaddhā Rāmarāmo thisimaṁ teachingdhammaṁ knowingjānaṁ seeingpassaṁ he lived; quote endvihāsī’ti.

This teaching is such that a sensible person can soon realize their own denomination with their own insight and live having achieved it.’ I quickly memorized that teaching. As far as lip-recital and verbal repetition went, I spoke the doctrine of knowledge, the elder doctrine. I claimed to know and see, and so did others. Then it occurred to me, ‘It is not solely by mere faith that Rāma declared: “I realize this teaching with my own insight, and live having achieved it.” Surely he meditated knowing and seeing this teaching.’

thenAtha indeed + Ikhvāhaṁ, king·princerājakumāra, whereyena Uddakaudako Rāma·sonrāmaputto him + I approachedtenupasaṅkamiṁ; near·goupasaṅkamitvā Uddakaudakaṁ Rāma·sonrāmaputtaṁ this + I saidetadavocaṁ:
to what extent‘kittāvatā thenno, reverendāvuso, Rāmarāmo thisimaṁ teachingdhammaṁ oneselfsayaṁ directly·knowabhiññā with insight·having madesacchikatvā near·having arrivedupasampajja he said he dwelledviharāmīti did he declarepavedesī’ti?
thusEvaṁ when this was saidvutte, king·princerājakumāra, Uddakaudako Rāma·sonrāmaputto the dimension of neither perception nor non-perceptionnevasaññānāsaññāyatanaṁ declaredpavedesi.
to meTassa of memayhaṁ, king·princerājakumāra, this + it wasetadahosi:
not‘na indeedkho Rāma alonerāmasseva he hadahosi faithsaddhā, I + too + there ismayhampatthi faithsaddhā;
notna indeedkho Rāma alonerāmasseva he hadahosi energyvīriyaṁ …pe……pe…
mindfulnesssati ……
immersionsamādhi ……
wisdompaññā, I + too + there ismayhampatthi wisdompaññā.
why don't IYannūnāhaṁ whichyaṁ teachingdhammaṁ Rāmarāmo oneselfsayaṁ directly·knowabhiññā with insight·having madesacchikatvā near·having arrivedupasampajja he said he dwelledviharāmīti he declarespavedeti of thattassa teachingdhammassa with insight + makingsacchikiriyāya I should make an effortpadaheyyan’ti.
thatSo indeedkho Iahaṁ, king·princerājakumāra, not + after a long timenacirasseva quick + onlykhippameva thattaṁ teachingdhammaṁ oneselfsayaṁ directly·knowabhiññā with insight·having madesacchikatvā near·having arrivedupasampajja I dwelledvihāsiṁ.
thenAtha indeed + Ikhvāhaṁ, king·princerājakumāra, whereyena Uddakaudako Rāma·sonrāmaputto him + I approachedtenupasaṅkamiṁ; near·goupasaṅkamitvā Uddakaudakaṁ Rāma·sonrāmaputtaṁ this + I saidetadavocaṁ:

So I approached Uddaka son of Rāma and said to him, ‘Reverend, to what extent did Rāma say he’d realized this teaching with his own insight?’ When I said this, Uddaka son of Rāma declared the dimension of neither perception nor non-perception. Then it occurred to me, ‘It’s not just Rāma who had faith, energy, mindfulness, immersion, and wisdom; I too have these things. Why don’t I make an effort to realize the same teaching that Rāma said he had realized with his own insight?’ I quickly realized that teaching with my own insight, and lived having achieved it. So I approached Uddaka son of Rāma and said to him,

up to this point‘ettāvatā for usno, reverendāvuso, Rāmarāmo thisimaṁ teachingdhammaṁ himselfsayaṁ having realized with insightabhiññā with one's own eyes·dosacchikatvā up to·together·goupasampajja declared?pavedesī’ti?
up to this point‘Ettāvatā indeedkho, reverendāvuso, Rāmarāmo thisimaṁ teachingdhammaṁ himselfsayaṁ having realized with insightabhiññā with one's own eyes·dosacchikatvā up to·together·goupasampajja declared.pavedesī’ti.
I·also‘Ahampi indeedkho, reverendāvuso, up to this pointettāvatā thisimaṁ teachingdhammaṁ myselfsayaṁ having realized with insightabhiññā with one's own eyes·dosacchikatvā up to·together·goupasampajja I dwell.viharāmī’ti.
gains‘Lābhā for usno, reverendāvuso, well·gainedsuladdhaṁ for usno, reverendāvuso,
whoye wemayaṁ the venerableāyasmantaṁ suchtādisaṁ together·spiritual companionsabrahmacāriṁ we see.passāma.
thusIti whichyaṁ teachingdhammaṁ Rāmarāmo himselfsayaṁ having realized with insightabhiññā with one's own eyes·dosacchikatvā up to·together·goupasampajja forth·knowpavedesi thattaṁ youtvaṁ teachingdhammaṁ yourselfsayaṁ having realized with insightabhiññā with one's own eyes·dosacchikatvā up to·together·goupasampajja you dwell.viharasi.
whichYaṁ youtvaṁ teachingdhammaṁ yourselfsayaṁ having realized with insightabhiññā with one's own eyes·dosacchikatvā up to·together·goupasampajja you dwellviharasi thattaṁ teachingdhammaṁ Rāmarāmo himselfsayaṁ having realized with insightabhiññā with one's own eyes·dosacchikatvā up to·together·goupasampajja declared.pavedesi.
thusIti whichyaṁ teachingdhammaṁ Rāmarāmo directly knewabhiññāsi thattaṁ youtvaṁ teachingdhammaṁ you know;jānāsi; whichyaṁ youtvaṁ teachingdhammaṁ you knowjānāsi thattaṁ teachingdhammaṁ Rāmarāmo directly knew.abhiññāsi.

‘Reverend, had Rāma realized this teaching with his own insight up to this point, and declared having achieved it?’ ‘He had, reverend.’ ‘I too have realized this teaching with my own insight up to this point, and live having achieved it.’ ‘We are fortunate, reverend, so very fortunate to see a venerable such as yourself as one of our spiritual companions! So the teaching that Rāma had realized with his own insight, and declared having achieved it, you’ve realized with your own insight, and dwell having achieved it. The teaching that you’ve realized with your own insight, and dwell having achieved it, Rāma had realized with his own insight, and declared having achieved it. So the teaching that Rāma directly knew, you know, and the teaching you know, Rāma directly knew.

thusIti such asyādiso Rāmarāmo wasahosi like thattādiso youtuvaṁ, such asyādiso youtuvaṁ like thattādiso Rāmarāmo wasahosi.
comeEhi nowdāni, reverendāvuso, youtuvaṁ thisimaṁ communitygaṇaṁ you should leadpariharā’ti.
thusIti indeedkho, princerājakumāra, Uddakaudako son of Rāmarāmaputto spiritual companionsabrahmacārī of meme beingsamāno in the position of a tutorācariyaṭṭhāne memaṁ placedṭhapesi, with highuḷārāya andca memaṁ praisepūjāya honoredpūjesi.
of thatTassa to memayhaṁ, princerājakumāra, it occurredetadahosi:
this‘nāyaṁ teachingdhammo to disillusionmentnibbidāya notna to dispassionvirāgāya notna to cessationnirodhāya notna to peaceupasamāya notna to insightabhiññāya notna to awakeningsambodhāya notna to extinguishmentnibbānāya leadssaṁvattati, only as far asyāvadeva to rebirth in the dimension of neither perception nor non-perceptionnevasaññānāsaññāyatanūpapattiyā’ti.
thatSo indeedkho Iahaṁ, princerājakumāra, thattaṁ teachingdhammaṁ realizing inadequateanalaṅkaritvā from thattasmā teachingdhammā disappointednibbijja I leftapakkamiṁ.

Rāma was like you and you are like Rāma. Come now, reverend! You should lead this community.’ And that is how my spiritual companion Uddaka son of Rāma placed me in the position of a tutor and honored me with high praise. Then it occurred to me, ‘This teaching doesn’t lead to disillusionment, dispassion, cessation, peace, insight, awakening, and extinguishment. It only leads as far as rebirth in the dimension of neither perception nor non-perception.’ Realizing that this teaching was inadequate, I left disappointed.

ISo indeedkho Iahaṁ, princerājakumāra, what·skillful·seekingkiṅkusalagavesī supremeanuttaraṁ peace·sublime·statesantivarapadaṁ seekingpariyesamāno, in the Magadhan landsmagadhesu stage by stageanupubbena walking tourcārikaṁ wanderingcaramāno, whereyena Uruvelāuruvelā Senā·townsenānigamo I arrivedtadavasariṁ.
there·sawTatthaddasaṁ delightfulramaṇīyaṁ parkbhūmibhāgaṁ, lovely + andpāsādikañca grovevanasaṇḍaṁ, river + andnadiñca flowingsandantiṁ cleansetakaṁ with smooth bankssupatitthaṁ, delightfulramaṇīyaṁ nearbysamantā andca village to resort to for almsgocaragāmaṁ.
of meTassa mymayhaṁ, princerājakumāra, this occurred to himetadahosi:
delightful‘ramaṇīyo trulyvata sirbho parkbhūmibhāgo, lovelypāsādiko andca grovevanasaṇḍo, rivernadī andca flowssandati cleansetakā with smooth bankssupatitthā, delightfulramaṇīyā nearbysamantā andca village to resort to for almsgocaragāmo.
sufficientAlaṁ truly thisvatidaṁ family·sonkulaputtassa wanting to strivepadhānatthikassa for strivingpadhānāyā’ti.
ISo indeedkho Iahaṁ, princerājakumāra, right theretattheva sat downnisīdiṁ:
this is enough‘alamidaṁ for strivingpadhānāyā’ti.

I set out to discover what is skillful, seeking the supreme state of sublime peace. Traveling stage by stage in the Magadhan lands, I arrived at the town of Senā in Uruvelā. There I saw a delightful park, a lovely grove with a flowing river that was clean and charming, with smooth banks. And nearby was a village to resort to for alms. Then it occurred to me, ‘This park is truly delightful, a lovely grove with a flowing river that’s clean and charming, with smooth banks. And nearby there’s a village to resort to for alms. This is good enough for striving for a gentleman wanting to strive.’ So I sat down right there, thinking, ‘This is good enough for striving.’

and·thenApissu to memaṁ, princerājakumāra, threetisso similesupamā back·appearpaṭibhaṁsu not·wondrousanacchariyā in the pastpubbe not·heard·beforeassutapubbā.

And then these three similes, which were neither supernaturally inspired, nor learned before in the past, occurred to me.

just as ifSeyyathāpi, princerājakumāra, greenallaṁ logkaṭṭhaṁ sappysasnehaṁ in waterudake lyingnikkhittaṁ.
thenAtha personpuriso would comeāgaccheyya drill-stickuttarāraṇiṁ having takenādāya:
fire‘aggiṁ I will produceabhinibbattessāmi, heattejo I will revealpātukarissāmī’ti.
thatTaṁ whatkiṁ you thinkmaññasi, princerājakumāra,
surelyapi indeednu thatso personpuriso thatamuṁ greenallaṁ logkaṭṭhaṁ sappysasnehaṁ in waterudake lyingnikkhittaṁ drill-stickuttarāraṇiṁ having takenādāya drillingabhimanthento fireaggiṁ would produceabhinibbatteyya, heattejo would revealpātukareyyā”ti?
no“No indeedhidaṁ, sirbhante.
thatTaṁ of whatkissa causehetu?
becauseAduñhi, sirbhante, greenallaṁ logkaṭṭhaṁ sappysasnehaṁ and ittañca thenpana in waterudake lyingnikkhittaṁ,
eventuallyyāvadeva andca thenpana thatso personpuriso of wearinesskilamathassa of frustrationvighātassa sharerbhāgī would beassā”ti.

Suppose there was a green, sappy log, and it was lying in water. Then a person comes along with a drill-stick, thinking to light a fire and produce heat. What do you think, Prince? By drilling the stick against that green, sappy log lying in water, could they light a fire and produce heat?” “No, sir. Why is that? Because it’s a green, sappy log, and it’s lying in the water. That person will eventually get weary and frustrated.”

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