With Prince Bodhi · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral
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just so“Evameva
indeedkho,
princerājakumāra,
whoye
surelyhi
anykeci
asceticssamaṇā
orvā
brahminsbrāhmaṇā
orvā
in bodykāyena
andceva
in mindcittena
andca
from sensual pleasureskāmehi
not·withdrawnavūpakaṭṭhā
they liveviharanti,
whichyo
andca
theirnesaṁ
toward sensual pleasureskāmesu
desirekāmacchando
sensual-pleasure·affectionkāmasneho
sensual-pleasure·infatuationkāmamucchā
sensual-pleasure·thirstkāmapipāsā
sensual-pleasure·passionkāmapariḷāho
thatso
andca
internallyajjhattaṁ
notna
well·given-upsuppahīno
ishoti,
notna
well stilledsuppaṭippassaddho.
due to exertionOpakkamikā
even ifcepi
thosete
sirsbhonto
ascetic·brahminsamaṇabrāhmaṇā
painfuldukkhā
sharptibbā
severekharā
acutekaṭukā
feelingsvedanā
they feelvedayanti,
incapableabhabbāva
theyte
of knowledgeñāṇāya
of visiondassanāya
of supremeanuttarāya
awakeningsambodhāya.
if notNo
even ifcepi
thosete
sirsbhonto
ascetic·brahminsamaṇabrāhmaṇā
due to exertionopakkamikā
painfuldukkhā
sharptibbā
severekharā
acutekaṭukā
feelingsvedanā
they feelvedayanti,
incapableabhabbāva
theyte
of knowledgeñāṇāya
of visiondassanāya
of supremeanuttarāya
awakeningsambodhāya.
thisAyaṁ
indeedkho
to memaṁ,
princerājakumāra,
firstpaṭhamā
exampleupamā
toward·appearpaṭibhāsi
not·marvellousanacchariyā
beforepubbe
unheard beforeassutapubbā.
“In the same way, there are ascetics and brahmins who don’t live withdrawn in body and mind from sensual pleasures. They haven’t internally given up or stilled desire, affection, infatuation, thirst, and passion for sensual pleasures. Regardless of whether or not they suffer painful, sharp, severe, acute feelings due to exertion, they are incapable of knowledge and vision, of supreme awakening. This was the first example that occurred to me.
another·alsoAparāpi
indeedkho
to memaṁ,
princerājakumāra,
seconddutiyā
exampleupamā
occurredpaṭibhāsi
not·wondrousanacchariyā
beforepubbe
unheard·beforeassutapubbā.
supposeSeyyathāpi,
princerājakumāra,
greenallaṁ
logkaṭṭhaṁ
with·sapsasnehaṁ
far fromārakā
waterudakā
on dry landthale
down·thrownnikkhittaṁ.
thenAtha
a personpuriso
to·goāgaccheyya
drill-stickuttarāraṇiṁ
to·takeādāya:
fire‘aggiṁ
forth·out·produceabhinibbattessāmi,
heattejo
manifest·dopātukarissāmī’ti.
thatTaṁ
whatkiṁ
do you thinkmaññasi,
princerājakumāra,
couldapi
thennu
thatso
personpuriso
thatamuṁ
greenallaṁ
logkaṭṭhaṁ
sappysasnehaṁ
far fromārakā
waterudakā
on dry landthale
lyingnikkhittaṁ
drill-stickuttarāraṇiṁ
takingādāya
forth·drillabhimanthento
fireaggiṁ
forth·out·produceabhinibbatteyya,
heattejo
manifest·dopātukareyyā”ti?
no“No
indeedhidaṁ,
sirbhante.
thatTaṁ
what iskissa
the reasonhetu?
becauseAduñhi,
sirbhante,
greenallaṁ
logkaṭṭhaṁ
sappysasnehaṁ
even thoughkiñcāpi
far fromārakā
waterudakā
on dry landthale
lyingnikkhittaṁ,
eventuallyyāvadeva
andca
butpana
thatso
personpuriso
of wearinesskilamathassa
of frustrationvighātassa
a sharerbhāgī
would beassā”ti.
Then a second example occurred to me. Suppose there was a green, sappy log, and it was lying on dry land far from the water. Then a person comes along with a drill-stick, thinking to light a fire and produce heat. What do you think, Prince? By drilling the stick against that green, sappy log on dry land far from water, could they light a fire and produce heat?” “No, sir. Why is that? Because it’s still a green, sappy log, despite the fact that it’s lying on dry land far from water. That person will eventually get weary and frustrated.”
just so“Evameva
indeedkho,
king·princerājakumāra,
whoeverye
indeedhi
who·anykeci
asceticssamaṇā
orvā
brahminsbrāhmaṇā
orvā
in bodykāyena
and·justceva
in mindcittena
andca
from sensual pleasureskāmehi
withdrawnvūpakaṭṭhā
liveviharanti,
whichyo
butca
of themnesaṁ
for sensual pleasureskāmesu
sensual·desirekāmacchando
sensual·affectionkāmasneho
sensual·infatuationkāmamucchā
sensual·thirstkāmapipāsā
sensual·passionkāmapariḷāho
thatso
butca
internallyajjhattaṁ
notna
well abandonedsuppahīno
ishoti,
notna
well stilledsuppaṭippassaddho.
due to exertionOpakkamikā
if·evencepi
thosete
sirsbhonto
ascetic·brahminsamaṇabrāhmaṇā
painfuldukkhā
sharptibbā
severekharā
acutekaṭukā
feelingsvedanā
feelvedayanti,
incapable·indeedabhabbāva
theyte
of knowledgeñāṇāya
of visiondassanāya
of supremeanuttarāya
awakeningsambodhāya.
notNo
if·evencepi
thosete
sirsbhonto
ascetic·brahminsamaṇabrāhmaṇā
due to exertionopakkamikā
painfuldukkhā
sharptibbā
severekharā
acutekaṭukā
feelingsvedanā
feelvedayanti,
incapable·indeedabhabbāva
theyte
of knowledgeñāṇāya
of visiondassanāya
of supremeanuttarāya
awakeningsambodhāya.
thisAyaṁ
indeedkho
to memaṁ,
king·princerājakumāra,
seconddutiyā
exampleupamā
occurredpaṭibhāsi
uninspiredanacchariyā
beforepubbe
unheard + beforeassutapubbā.
“In the same way, there are ascetics and brahmins who live withdrawn in body and mind from sensual pleasures. But they haven’t internally given up or stilled desire, affection, infatuation, thirst, and passion for sensual pleasures. Regardless of whether or not they suffer painful, sharp, severe, acute feelings due to exertion, they are incapable of knowledge and vision, of supreme awakening. This was the second example that occurred to me.
another·tooAparāpi
indeedkho
memaṁ,
princerājakumāra,
thirdtatiyā
exampleupamā
back·speakpaṭibhāsi
not·wonderfulanacchariyā
beforepubbe
not·heard·beforeassutapubbā.
supposeSeyyathāpi,
princerājakumāra,
drysukkhaṁ
logkaṭṭhaṁ
witheredkoḷāpaṁ
far fromārakā
waterudakā
on dry landthale
down·thrownnikkhittaṁ.
thenAtha
a personpuriso
to·goāgaccheyya
drill-stickuttarāraṇiṁ
to·takeādāya:
fire‘aggiṁ
forth·out·produceabhinibbattessāmi,
heattejo
I will manifestpātukarissāmī’ti.
thatTaṁ
whatkiṁ
do you thinkmaññasi,
princerājakumāra,
couldapi
indeednu
thatso
personpuriso
thatamuṁ
drysukkhaṁ
logkaṭṭhaṁ
witheredkoḷāpaṁ
far fromārakā
waterudakā
on dry landthale
down·thrownnikkhittaṁ
drill-stickuttarāraṇiṁ
to·takeādāya
forth·churnabhimanthento
fireaggiṁ
might produceabhinibbatteyya,
heattejo
forth·make·quotationpātukareyyā”ti?
yes“Evaṁ,
sirbhante.
thatTaṁ
of whatkissa
causehetu?
because·indeedAduñhi,
sirbhante,
drysukkhaṁ
logkaṭṭhaṁ
witheredkoḷāpaṁ,
that + andtañca
andpana
far fromārakā
waterudakā
on dry landthale
down·thrown·quotationnikkhittan”ti.
so·indeed“Evameva
indeedkho,
princerājakumāra,
whoeverye
indeedhi
anykeci
asceticssamaṇā
orvā
brahminsbrāhmaṇā
orvā
in bodykāyena
andceva
in mindcittena
andca
from sensual pleasureskāmehi
withdrawnvūpakaṭṭhā
apart·dwellviharanti,
whichyo
andca
theirnesaṁ
in sensual pleasureskāmesu
sensual pleasure·desirekāmacchando
sensual pleasure·affectionkāmasneho
sensual pleasure·infatuationkāmamucchā
sensual pleasure·thirstkāmapipāsā
sensual pleasure·passionkāmapariḷāho
thatso
andca
internallyajjhattaṁ
well·given upsuppahīno
ishoti
well·stilledsuppaṭippassaddho.
Then a third example occurred to me. Suppose there was a dried up, withered log, and it was lying on dry land far from the water. Then a person comes along with a drill-stick, thinking to light a fire and produce heat. What do you think, Prince? By drilling the stick against that dried up, withered log on dry land far from water, could they light a fire and produce heat?” “Yes, sir. Why is that? Because it’s a dried up, withered log, and it’s lying on dry land far from water.” “In the same way, there are ascetics and brahmins who live withdrawn in body and mind from sensual pleasures. And they have internally given up and stilled desire, affection, infatuation, thirst, and passion for sensual pleasures. Regardless of whether or not they suffer painful, sharp, severe, acute feelings due to exertion, they are capable of knowledge and vision, of supreme awakening.
arisen from aggressionOpakkamikā
if evencepi
thosete
sirsbhonto
ascetics and brahminssamaṇabrāhmaṇā
painfuldukkhā
sharptibbā
roughkharā
bitterkaṭukā
feelingsvedanā
they feelvedayanti,
only they are capablebhabbāva
theyte
of knowledgeñāṇāya
of visiondassanāya
of unsurpassedanuttarāya
of full awakeningsambodhāya.
notNo
if evencepi
thosete
sirsbhonto
ascetics and brahminssamaṇabrāhmaṇā
arisen from aggressionopakkamikā
painfuldukkhā
sharptibbā
roughkharā
bitterkaṭukā
feelingsvedanā
they feelvedayanti,
only they are capablebhabbāva
theyte
of knowledgeñāṇāya
of visiondassanāya
of unsurpassedanuttarāya
of full awakeningsambodhāya.
thisAyaṁ
indeedkho
to memaṁ,
princerājakumāra,
thirdtatiyā
simileupamā
occurredpaṭibhāsi
unmarvelousanacchariyā
beforepubbe
never heard beforeassutapubbā.
theseImā
indeedkho
to memaṁ,
princerājakumāra,
threetisso
similesupamā
occurredpaṭibhaṁsu
unmarvelousanacchariyā
beforepubbe
never heard beforeassutapubbā.
This was the third example that occurred to me. These are the three similes, which were neither supernaturally inspired, nor learned before in the past, that occurred to me.
of thatTassa
to memayhaṁ,
princerājakumāra,
this·beetadahosi:
why don't I‘yannūnāhaṁ
tooth + against·tooth·placedantebhidantamādhāya,
with tonguejivhāya
palatetāluṁ
pressing againstāhacca,
with mindcetasā
mindcittaṁ
against·squeezeabhiniggaṇheyyaṁ
against·squashabhinippīḷeyyaṁ
might scorchabhisantāpeyyan’ti.
thatSo
indeedkho
Iahaṁ,
princerājakumāra,
tooth + against·tooth·placedantebhidantamādhāya,
with tonguejivhāya
palatetāluṁ
pressing againstāhacca,
with mindcetasā
mindcittaṁ
against·squeezeabhiniggaṇhāmi
against·squashabhinippīḷemi
against·scorchabhisantāpemi.
of thatTassa
to memayhaṁ,
princerājakumāra,
tooth + against·tooth·placedantebhidantamādhāya,
with tonguejivhāya
palatetāluṁ
pressing againstāhacca,
with mindcetasā
mindcittaṁ
against·squeezeabhiniggaṇhato
against·squashabhinippīḷayato
against·scorchabhisantāpayato
from armpitskacchehi
sweatssedā
ranmuccanti.
just asSeyyathāpi,
princerājakumāra,
strongbalavā
manpuriso
weakerdubbalataraṁ
manpurisaṁ
by headsīse
orvā
having grabbedgahetvā
by shoulderkhandhe
orvā
having grabbedgahetvā
against·squeezeabhiniggaṇheyya
against·squashabhinippīḷeyya
against·scorchabhisantāpeyya;
just soevameva
indeedkho
to meme,
princerājakumāra,
tooth + against·tooth·placedantebhidantamādhāya,
with tonguejivhāya
palatetāluṁ
pressing againstāhacca,
with mindcetasā
mindcittaṁ
against·squeezeabhiniggaṇhato
against·squashabhinippīḷayato
against·scorchabhisantāpayato
from armpitskacchehi
sweatssedā
ranmuccanti.
roused upĀraddhaṁ
indeedkho
butpana
myme,
princerājakumāra,
energyvīriyaṁ
washoti
not·flaggingasallīnaṁ,
establishedupaṭṭhitā
mindfulnesssati
not·confusedasammuṭṭhā,
disturbedsāraddho
andca
butpana
myme
bodykāyo
washoti
not·tranquilappaṭippassaddho,
that + veryteneva
painful·strivingdukkhappadhānena
who was stricken by strivingpadhānābhitunnassa
mindfulsato.
Then it occurred to me, ‘Why don’t I, with teeth clenched and tongue pressed against the roof of my mouth, squeeze, squash, and scorch mind with mind?’ So that’s what I did, until sweat ran from my armpits. It was like when a strong man grabs a weaker man by the head or throat or shoulder and squeezes, squashes, and crushes them. In the same way, with teeth clenched and tongue pressed against the roof of my mouth, I squeezed, squashed, and crushed mind with mind until sweat ran from my armpits. My energy was roused up and unflagging, and my mindfulness was established and lucid, but my body was disturbed, not tranquil, because I’d pushed too hard with that painful striving.
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