With Prince Bodhi · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral
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“Mayhampi
kho,
rājakumāra,
pubbeva
sambodhā
anabhisambuddhassa
bodhisattasseva
sato
etadahosi:
‘na
kho
sukhena
sukhaṁ
adhigantabbaṁ,
dukkhena
kho
sukhaṁ
adhigantabban’ti.
“Prince, before my awakening—when I was still unawakened but intent on awakening—I too thought, ‘Pleasure is not gained through pleasure; pleasure is gained through pain.’
So
kho
ahaṁ,
rājakumāra,
aparena
samayena
daharova
samāno
susukāḷakeso
bhadrena
yobbanena
samannāgato
paṭhamena
vayasā
akāmakānaṁ
mātāpitūnaṁ
assumukhānaṁ
rudantānaṁ
kesamassuṁ
ohāretvā
kāsāyāni
vatthāni
acchādetvā
agārasmā
anagāriyaṁ
pabbajiṁ.
So
evaṁ
pabbajito
samāno
kiṅkusalagavesī
anuttaraṁ
santivarapadaṁ
pariyesamāno
yena
āḷāro
kālāmo
tenupasaṅkamiṁ;
upasaṅkamitvā
āḷāraṁ
kālāmaṁ
etadavocaṁ:
‘icchāmahaṁ,
āvuso
kālāma,
imasmiṁ
dhammavinaye
brahmacariyaṁ
caritun’ti.
Evaṁ
vutte,
rājakumāra,
āḷāro
kālāmo
maṁ
etadavoca:
‘viharatāyasmā,
tādiso
ayaṁ
dhammo
yattha
viññū
puriso
nacirasseva
sakaṁ
ācariyakaṁ
sayaṁ
abhiññā
sacchikatvā
upasampajja
vihareyyā’ti.
So
kho
ahaṁ,
rājakumāra,
nacirasseva
khippameva
taṁ
dhammaṁ
pariyāpuṇiṁ.
So
kho
ahaṁ,
rājakumāra,
tāvatakeneva
oṭṭhapahatamattena
lapitalāpanamattena
ñāṇavādañca
vadāmi,
theravādañca
jānāmi
passāmīti
ca
paṭijānāmi,
ahañceva
aññe
ca.
Some time later, while still with pristine black hair, blessed with youth, in the prime of life—though my mother and father wished otherwise, weeping with tearful faces—I shaved off my hair and beard, dressed in ocher robes, and went forth from the lay life to homelessness. Once I had gone forth I set out to discover what is skillful, seeking the supreme state of sublime peace. I approached Āḷāra Kālāma and said to him, ‘Reverend Kālāma, I wish to lead the spiritual life in this teaching and training.’ Āḷāra Kālāma replied, ‘Stay, venerable. This teaching is such that a sensible person can soon realize their own denomination with their own insight and live having achieved it.’ I quickly memorized that teaching. As far as lip-recital and verbal repetition went, I spoke the doctrine of knowledge, the elder doctrine. I claimed to know and see, and so did others.
Tassa
mayhaṁ,
rājakumāra,
etadahosi:
‘na
kho
āḷāro
kālāmo
imaṁ
dhammaṁ
kevalaṁ
saddhāmattakena
sayaṁ
abhiññā
sacchikatvā
upasampajja
viharāmīti
pavedeti;
addhā
āḷāro
kālāmo
imaṁ
dhammaṁ
jānaṁ
passaṁ
viharatī’ti.
Then it occurred to me, ‘It is not solely by mere faith that Āḷāra Kālāma declares: “I realize this teaching with my own insight, and live having achieved it.” Surely he meditates knowing and seeing this teaching.’
Atha
khvāhaṁ,
rājakumāra,
yena
āḷāro
kālāmo
tenupasaṅkamiṁ;
upasaṅkamitvā
āḷāraṁ
kālāmaṁ
etadavocaṁ:
‘kittāvatā
no,
āvuso
kālāma,
imaṁ
dhammaṁ
sayaṁ
abhiññā
sacchikatvā
upasampajja
viharāmīti
pavedesī’ti?
Evaṁ
vutte,
rājakumāra,
āḷāro
kālāmo
ākiñcaññāyatanaṁ
pavedesi.
Tassa
mayhaṁ,
rājakumāra,
etadahosi:
‘na
kho
āḷārasseva
kālāmassa
atthi
saddhā,
mayhampatthi
saddhā;
na
kho
āḷārasseva
kālāmassa
atthi
vīriyaṁ
…pe…
sati
…
samādhi
…
paññā,
mayhampatthi
paññā.
Yannūnāhaṁ
yaṁ
dhammaṁ
āḷāro
kālāmo
sayaṁ
abhiññā
sacchikatvā
upasampajja
viharāmīti
pavedeti
tassa
dhammassa
sacchikiriyāya
padaheyyan’ti.
So
kho
ahaṁ,
rājakumāra,
nacirasseva
khippameva
taṁ
dhammaṁ
sayaṁ
abhiññā
sacchikatvā
upasampajja
vihāsiṁ.
Atha
khvāhaṁ,
rājakumāra,
yena
āḷāro
kālāmo
tenupasaṅkamiṁ;
upasaṅkamitvā
āḷāraṁ
kālāmaṁ
etadavocaṁ:
So I approached Āḷāra Kālāma and said to him, ‘Reverend Kālāma, to what extent do you say you’ve realized this teaching with your own insight?’ When I said this, he declared the dimension of nothingness. Then it occurred to me, ‘It’s not just Āḷāra Kālāma who has faith, energy, mindfulness, immersion, and wisdom; I too have these things. Why don’t I make an effort to realize the same teaching that Āḷāra Kālāma says he has realized with his own insight?’ I quickly realized that teaching with my own insight, and lived having achieved it. So I approached Āḷāra Kālāma and said to him,
‘ettāvatā
no,
āvuso
kālāma,
imaṁ
dhammaṁ
sayaṁ
abhiññā
sacchikatvā
upasampajja
pavedesī’ti?
‘Ettāvatā
kho
ahaṁ,
āvuso,
imaṁ
dhammaṁ
sayaṁ
abhiññā
sacchikatvā
upasampajja
pavedemī’ti.
‘Ahampi
kho,
āvuso,
ettāvatā
imaṁ
dhammaṁ
sayaṁ
abhiññā
sacchikatvā
upasampajja
viharāmī’ti.
‘Lābhā
no,
āvuso,
suladdhaṁ
no,
āvuso,
ye
mayaṁ
āyasmantaṁ
tādisaṁ
sabrahmacāriṁ
passāma.
Iti
yāhaṁ
dhammaṁ
sayaṁ
abhiññā
sacchikatvā
upasampajja
pavedemi,
taṁ
tvaṁ
dhammaṁ
sayaṁ
abhiññā
sacchikatvā
upasampajja
viharasi.
Yaṁ
tvaṁ
dhammaṁ
sayaṁ
abhiññā
sacchikatvā
upasampajja
viharasi,
tamahaṁ
dhammaṁ
sayaṁ
abhiññā
sacchikatvā
upasampajja
pavedemi.
Iti
yāhaṁ
dhammaṁ
jānāmi
taṁ
tvaṁ
dhammaṁ
jānāsi;
yaṁ
tvaṁ
dhammaṁ
jānāsi
tamahaṁ
dhammaṁ
jānāmi.
Iti
yādiso
ahaṁ,
tādiso
tuvaṁ;
yādiso
tuvaṁ
tādiso
ahaṁ.
‘Reverend Kālāma, is it up to this point that you realized this teaching with your own insight, and declare having achieved it?’ ‘I have, reverend.’ ‘I too have realized this teaching with my own insight up to this point, and live having achieved it.’ ‘We are fortunate, reverend, so very fortunate to see a venerable such as yourself as one of our spiritual companions! So the teaching that I’ve realized with my own insight, and declare having achieved it, you’ve realized with your own insight, and dwell having achieved it. The teaching that you’ve realized with your own insight, and dwell having achieved it, I’ve realized with my own insight, and declare having achieved it. So the teaching that I know, you know, and the teaching you know, I know. I am like you and you are like me.
Ehi
dāni,
āvuso,
ubhova
santā
imaṁ
gaṇaṁ
pariharāmā’ti.
Iti
kho,
rājakumāra,
āḷāro
kālāmo
ācariyo
me
samāno
attano
antevāsiṁ
maṁ
samānaṁ
attanā
samasamaṁ
ṭhapesi,
uḷārāya
ca
maṁ
pūjāya
pūjesi.
Tassa
mayhaṁ,
rājakumāra,
etadahosi:
‘nāyaṁ
dhammo
nibbidāya
na
virāgāya
na
nirodhāya
na
upasamāya
na
abhiññāya
na
sambodhāya
na
nibbānāya
saṁvattati,
yāvadeva
ākiñcaññāyatanūpapattiyā’ti.
So
kho
ahaṁ,
rājakumāra,
taṁ
dhammaṁ
analaṅkaritvā
tasmā
dhammā
nibbijja
apakkamiṁ.
So
kho
ahaṁ,
rājakumāra,
kiṅkusalagavesī
anuttaraṁ
santivarapadaṁ
pariyesamāno
yena
udako
rāmaputto
tenupasaṅkamiṁ;
upasaṅkamitvā
udakaṁ
rāmaputtaṁ
etadavocaṁ:
‘icchāmahaṁ,
āvuso,
imasmiṁ
dhammavinaye
brahmacariyaṁ
caritun’ti.
Evaṁ
vutte,
rājakumāra,
udako
rāmaputto
maṁ
etadavoca:
‘viharatāyasmā,
Come now, reverend! We should both lead this community together.’ And that is how my tutor Āḷāra Kālāma placed me, his pupil, on the same position as him, and honored me with high praise. Then it occurred to me, ‘This teaching doesn’t lead to disillusionment, dispassion, cessation, peace, insight, awakening, and extinguishment. It only leads as far as rebirth in the dimension of nothingness.’ Realizing that this teaching was inadequate, I left disappointed. I set out to discover what is skillful, seeking the supreme state of sublime peace. I approached Uddaka son of Rāma and said to him, ‘Reverend, I wish to lead the spiritual life in this teaching and training.’ Uddaka replied, ‘Stay, venerable.
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