Self-Effacement · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral
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thusEvaṁ
by meme
heardsutaṁ—
oneekaṁ
occasionsamayaṁ
the Blessed Onebhagavā
near Sāvatthīsāvatthiyaṁ
dwellsviharati
in Jeta's Grovejetavane
of Anāthapiṇḍikaanāthapiṇḍikassa
in the monasteryārāme.
So I have heard. At one time the Buddha was staying near Sāvatthī in Jeta’s Grove, Anāthapiṇḍika’s monastery.
thenAtha indeedkho venerableāyasmā Mahācundamahācundo in the late afternoonsāyanhasamayaṁ from retreatpaṭisallānā emergedvuṭṭhito whereyena the Blessed Onebhagavā there he approachedtenupasaṅkami; having approachedupasaṅkamitvā to the Blessed Onebhagavantaṁ having bowedabhivādetvā to one sideekamantaṁ sat downnisīdi. to one sideEkamantaṁ seatednisinno indeedkho venerableāyasmā Mahācundamahācundo to the Blessed Onebhagavantaṁ said thisetadavoca:
Then in the late afternoon, Venerable Mahācunda came out of retreat and went to the Buddha. He bowed, sat down to one side, and said to the Buddha:
whatever“yā
theseimā,
sirbhante,
of many kindsanekavihitā
viewsdiṭṭhiyo
in the worldloke
ariseuppajjanti—
connected with theories of selfattavādapaṭisaṁyuttā
orvā
connected with theories of the worldlokavādapaṭisaṁyuttā
orvā—
the very beginningādimeva
(question)nu
indeedkho,
sirbhante,
for a monkbhikkhuno
attendingmanasikaroto
thus of theseevametāsaṁ
of viewsdiṭṭhīnaṁ
giving uppahānaṁ
ishoti,
thus of theseevametāsaṁ
of viewsdiṭṭhīnaṁ
relinquishingpaṭinissaggo
is? (quote)hotī”ti?
whatever“Yā
theseimā,
Cundacunda,
of many kindsanekavihitā
viewsdiṭṭhiyo
in the worldloke
ariseuppajjanti—
connected with theories of selfattavādapaṭisaṁyuttā
orvā
connected with theories of the worldlokavādapaṭisaṁyuttā
orvā—
whereyattha
and thesecetā
viewsdiṭṭhiyo
ariseuppajjanti
whereyattha
andca
lie latentanusenti
whereyattha
andca
become activesamudācaranti
thattaṁ
not this‘netaṁ
minemama,
I am not thisnesohamasmi,
notna
myme
thisso
self (quote)—thus thisattā’ti—evametaṁ
as it really isyathābhūtaṁ
with right wisdomsammappaññā
for one seeingpassato
thus of theseevametāsaṁ
of viewsdiṭṭhīnaṁ
giving uppahānaṁ
ishoti,
thus of theseevametāsaṁ
of viewsdiṭṭhīnaṁ
relinquishingpaṭinissaggo
ishoti.
“Sir, there are many different views that arise in the world connected with theories of self or with theories of the cosmos. How does a mendicant who is focusing on the starting point give up and let go of these views?” “Cunda, there are many different views that arise in the world connected with theories of self or with theories of the cosmos. A mendicant gives up and lets go of these views by truly seeing with right wisdom where they arise, where they settle in, and where they operate as: ‘This is not mine, I am not this, this is not my self.’
the caseṬhānaṁ
indeedkho
moreover thispanetaṁ,
Cundacunda,
is foundvijjati
thatyaṁ
here someidhekacco
monkbhikkhu
quite secludedvivicceva
from sensual pleasureskāmehi
secludedvivicca
from unskillfulakusalehi
qualitiesdhammehi
with thoughtsavitakkaṁ
with examinationsavicāraṁ
born of seclusionvivekajaṁ
rapture and blisspītisukhaṁ
firstpaṭhamaṁ
jhāna (absorption)jhānaṁ
having enteredupasampajja
might dwellvihareyya.
to himTassa
it might occur thusevamassa:
with self-effacement‘sallekhena
I dwell (quote)viharāmī’ti.
notNa
indeedkho
moreover thesepanete,
Cundacunda,
of the Noble Oneariyassa
in the trainingvinaye
self-effacementsallekhā
are calledvuccanti.
blissful abidings in this lifeDiṭṭhadhammasukhavihārā
theseete
of the Noble Oneariyassa
in the trainingvinaye
are calledvuccanti.
It’s possible that a certain mendicant, quite secluded from sensual pleasures, secluded from unskillful qualities, might enter and remain in the first absorption, which has the rapture and bliss born of seclusion, while placing the mind and keeping it connected. They might think they’re practicing self-effacement. But in the training of the Noble One these are not called ‘self-effacement’; they’re called ‘blissful meditations in this life’.
the caseṬhānaṁ
indeedkho
moreover thispanetaṁ,
Cundacunda,
is foundvijjati
thatyaṁ
here someidhekacco
monkbhikkhu
of thought and examinationvitakkavicārānaṁ
with the stillingvūpasamā
internallyajjhattaṁ
claritysampasādanaṁ
of mindcetaso
unificationekodibhāvaṁ
without thoughtavitakkaṁ
without examinationavicāraṁ
born of immersionsamādhijaṁ
rapture and blisspītisukhaṁ
seconddutiyaṁ
jhāna (absorption)jhānaṁ
having enteredupasampajja
might dwellvihareyya.
to himTassa
it might occur thusevamassa:
with self-effacement‘sallekhena
I dwell (quote)viharāmī’ti.
notNa
indeedkho
moreover thesepanete,
Cundacunda,
of the Noble Oneariyassa
in the trainingvinaye
self-effacementsallekhā
are calledvuccanti.
blissful abidings in this lifeDiṭṭhadhammasukhavihārā
theseete
of the Noble Oneariyassa
in the trainingvinaye
are calledvuccanti.
It’s possible that some mendicant, as the placing of the mind and keeping it connected are stilled, might enter and remain in the second absorption, which has the rapture and bliss born of immersion, with internal clarity and mind at one, without placing the mind and keeping it connected. They might think they’re practicing self-effacement. But in the training of the Noble One these are not called ‘self-effacement’; they’re called ‘blissful meditations in this life’.
the caseṬhānaṁ
indeedkho
moreover thispanetaṁ,
Cundacunda,
is foundvijjati
thatyaṁ
here someidhekacco
monkbhikkhu
of rapturepītiyā
andca
with the fadingvirāgā
equanimousupekkhako
andca
might dwellvihareyya,
mindfulsato
andca
awaresampajāno
and blisssukhañca
with the bodykāyena
might experiencepaṭisaṁvedeyya,
whichyaṁ
thattaṁ
the noble onesariyā
declareācikkhanti:
equanimous‘upekkhako
mindfulsatimā
dwelling in bliss (quote)sukhavihārī’ti
thirdtatiyaṁ
jhāna (absorption)jhānaṁ
having enteredupasampajja
might dwellvihareyya.
to himTassa
it might occur thusevamassa:
with self-effacement‘sallekhena
I dwell (quote)viharāmī’ti.
notNa
indeedkho
moreover thesepanete,
Cundacunda,
of the Noble Oneariyassa
in the trainingvinaye
self-effacementsallekhā
are calledvuccanti.
blissful abidings in this lifeDiṭṭhadhammasukhavihārā
theseete
of the Noble Oneariyassa
in the trainingvinaye
are calledvuccanti.
It’s possible that some mendicant, with the fading away of rapture, might enter and remain in the third absorption, where they meditate with equanimity, mindful and aware, experiencing for themselves the bliss of which the noble ones declare, ‘Equanimous and mindful, one meditates in bliss.’ They might think they’re practicing self-effacement. But in the training of the Noble One these are not called ‘self-effacement’; they’re called ‘blissful meditations in this life’.
the caseṬhānaṁ
indeedkho
moreover thispanetaṁ,
Cundacunda,
is foundvijjati
thatyaṁ
here someidhekacco
monkbhikkhu
of pleasuresukhassa
andca
with the giving uppahānā
of paindukkhassa
andca
with the giving uppahānā
already beforepubbeva
of happiness and sadnesssomanassadomanassānaṁ
with the disappearanceatthaṅgamā
neither painful nor pleasantadukkhamasukhaṁ
purity of equanimity and mindfulnessupekkhāsatipārisuddhiṁ
fourthcatutthaṁ
jhāna (absorption)jhānaṁ
having enteredupasampajja
might dwellvihareyya.
to himTassa
it might occur thusevamassa:
with self-effacement‘sallekhena
I dwell (quote)viharāmī’ti.
notNa
indeedkho
moreover thesepanete,
Cundacunda,
of the Noble Oneariyassa
in the trainingvinaye
self-effacementsallekhā
are calledvuccanti.
blissful abidings in this lifeDiṭṭhadhammasukhavihārā
theseete
of the Noble Oneariyassa
in the trainingvinaye
are calledvuccanti.
It’s possible that some mendicant, with the giving up of pleasure and pain, and the disappearance of former happiness and sadness, might enter and remain in the fourth absorption, without pleasure or pain, with pure equanimity and mindfulness. They might think they’re practicing self-effacement. But in the training of the Noble One these are not called ‘self-effacement’; they’re called ‘blissful meditations in this life’.
the caseṬhānaṁ
indeedkho
moreover thispanetaṁ,
Cundacunda,
is foundvijjati
thatyaṁ
here someidhekacco
monkbhikkhu
completelysabbaso
of perceptions of formrūpasaññānaṁ
with the transcendingsamatikkamā,
of perceptions of impingementpaṭighasaññānaṁ
with the disappearanceatthaṅgamā,
of perceptions of diversitynānattasaññānaṁ
with non-attentionamanasikārā,
infinite‘ananto
space (quote)ākāso’ti
the dimension of infinite spaceākāsānañcāyatanaṁ
having enteredupasampajja
might dwellvihareyya.
to himTassa
it might occur thusevamassa:
with self-effacement‘sallekhena
I dwell (quote)viharāmī’ti.
notNa
indeedkho
moreover thesepanete,
Cundacunda,
of the Noble Oneariyassa
in the trainingvinaye
self-effacementsallekhā
are calledvuccanti.
peacefulSantā
theseete
abidingsvihārā
of the Noble Oneariyassa
in the trainingvinaye
are calledvuccanti.
It’s possible that some mendicant, going totally beyond perceptions of form, with the disappearance of perceptions of impingement, not focusing on perceptions of diversity, aware that ‘space is infinite’, might enter and remain in the dimension of infinite space. They might think they’re practicing self-effacement. But in the training of the Noble One these are not called ‘self-effacement’; they’re called ‘peaceful meditations’.
the caseṬhānaṁ
indeedkho
moreover thispanetaṁ,
Cundacunda,
is foundvijjati
thatyaṁ
here someidhekacco
monkbhikkhu
completelysabbaso
the dimension of infinite spaceākāsānañcāyatanaṁ
having transcendedsamatikkamma
infinite‘anantaṁ
consciousness (quote)viññāṇan’ti
the dimension of infinite consciousnessviññāṇañcāyatanaṁ
having enteredupasampajja
might dwellvihareyya.
to himTassa
it might occur thusevamassa:
with self-effacement‘sallekhena
I dwell (quote)viharāmī’ti.
notNa
indeedkho
moreover thesepanete,
Cundacunda,
of the Noble Oneariyassa
in the trainingvinaye
self-effacementsallekhā
are calledvuccanti.
peacefulSantā
theseete
abidingsvihārā
of the Noble Oneariyassa
in the trainingvinaye
are calledvuccanti.
It’s possible that some mendicant, going totally beyond the dimension of infinite space, aware that ‘consciousness is infinite’, might enter and remain in the dimension of infinite consciousness. They might think they’re practicing self-effacement. But in the training of the Noble One these are not called ‘self-effacement’; they’re called ‘peaceful meditations’.
the caseṬhānaṁ
indeedkho
moreover thispanetaṁ,
Cundacunda,
is foundvijjati
thatyaṁ
here someidhekacco
monkbhikkhu
completelysabbaso
the dimension of infinite consciousnessviññāṇañcāyatanaṁ
having transcendedsamatikkamma
there is not‘natthi
anything (quote)kiñcī’ti
the dimension of nothingnessākiñcaññāyatanaṁ
having enteredupasampajja
might dwellvihareyya.
to himTassa
it might occur thusevamassa:
with self-effacement‘sallekhena
I dwell (quote)viharāmī’ti.
notNa
indeedkho
moreover thesepanete,
Cundacunda,
of the Noble Oneariyassa
in the trainingvinaye
self-effacementsallekhā
are calledvuccanti.
peacefulSantā
theseete
abidingsvihārā
of the Noble Oneariyassa
in the trainingvinaye
are calledvuccanti.
It’s possible that some mendicant, going totally beyond the dimension of infinite consciousness, aware that ‘there is nothing at all’, might enter and remain in the dimension of nothingness. They might think they’re practicing self-effacement. But in the training of the Noble One these are not called ‘self-effacement’; they’re called ‘peaceful meditations’.
the caseṬhānaṁ
indeedkho
moreover thispanetaṁ,
Cundacunda,
is foundvijjati
thatyaṁ
here someidhekacco
monkbhikkhu
completelysabbaso
the dimension of nothingnessākiñcaññāyatanaṁ
having transcendedsamatikkamma
the dimension of neither perception nor non-perceptionnevasaññānāsaññāyatanaṁ
having enteredupasampajja
might dwellvihareyya.
to himTassa
it might occur thusevamassa:
with self-effacement‘sallekhena
I dwell (quote)viharāmī’ti.
notNa
indeedkho
moreover thesepanete,
Cundacunda,
of the Noble Oneariyassa
in the trainingvinaye
self-effacementsallekhā
are calledvuccanti.
peacefulSantā
theseete
abidingsvihārā
of the Noble Oneariyassa
in the trainingvinaye
are calledvuccanti.
It’s possible that some mendicant, going totally beyond the dimension of nothingness, might enter and remain in the dimension of neither perception nor non-perception. They might think they’re practicing self-effacement. But in the training of the Noble One these are not called ‘self-effacement’; they’re called ‘peaceful meditations’.
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