Kaṇṇakatthalasutta

Majjhima Nikāya 90

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that“Taṁ what?kiṁ you thinkmaññasi, generalsenāpati,
is ablepahoti kingrājā Pasenadipasenadi Kosalankosalo godsdeve the thirty-threetāvatiṁse from thattamhā placeṭhānā to topplecāvetuṁ orvā to expelpabbājetuṁ or?vā”ti?
even seeing“Dassanampi, sirbho, kingrājā Pasenadipasenadi Kosalankosalo godsdeve the thirty-threetāvatiṁse is not ablenappahoti, howkuto thenpana from thattamhā placeṭhānā he will topplecāvessati orvā he will expelpabbājessati or?vā”ti?
in just the same way“Evameva indeedkho, generalsenāpati, whoye thosete godsdevā afflictedsabyābajjhā having comeāgantāro to this stateitthattaṁ thosete godsdevā, whoye thosete godsdevā unafflictedabyābajjhā not returninganāgantāro to this stateitthattaṁ thosete godsdeve even for seeingdassanāyapi they are not ablenappahonti; howkuto thenpana from thattamhā placeṭhānā they will topplecāvessanti orvā they will expelpabbājessanti or?vā”ti?

“What do you think, general? Can King Pasenadi topple or expel from their place the gods of the thirty-three?” “King Pasenadi can’t even see the gods of the thirty-three, so how could he possibly topple or expel them from their place?” “In the same way, general, the gods who are afflicted can’t even see the gods who are unafflicted, so how could they possibly topple or expel them from their place?”

thenAtha indeedkho the kingrājā Pasenadipasenadi of Kosalakosalo the Blessed Onebhagavantaṁ said thisetadavoca:
named what“konāmo thisayaṁ, sirbhante, mendicantbhikkhū”ti?
Ānanda“Ānando namednāma, Great Kingmahārājā”ti.
Ānanda“Ānando trulyvata sirbho, of a joyful natureānandarūpo trulyvata sirbho.
has reasonHeturūpaṁ, sirbhante, Venerableāyasmā Ānandaānando speaksāha; has reasonsaheturūpaṁ, sirbhante, Venerableāyasmā Ānandaānando speaksāha.
whatKiṁ butpana, sirbhante, there isatthi a divinitybrahmā”ti?
what“Kiṁ butpana youtvaṁ, Great Kingmahārāja, thusevaṁ you sayvadesi:
what‘kiṁ butpana, sirbhante, there isatthi a divinitybrahmā’”ti?
if“Yadi orvā heso, sirbhante, a divinitybrahmā a returnerāgantā to this stateitthattaṁ, ifyadi orvā a non-returneranāgantā to this stateitthattan”ti?
which“Yo thatso, Great Kingmahārāja, a divinitybrahmā afflictedsabyābajjho thatso a divinitybrahmā a returnerāgantā to this stateitthattaṁ, whichyo thatso a divinitybrahmā unafflictedabyābajjho thatso a divinitybrahmā a non-returneranāgantā to this stateitthattan”ti.

Then the king said to the Buddha, “Sir, what is this mendicant’s name?” “Ānanda, Great King.” “A joy he is, and a joy he seems! What Venerable Ānanda says seems reasonable. But sir, does a divinity survive?” “But what exactly are you asking?” “Whether that divinity comes back to this place or not.” “A divinity who is afflicted comes back to this place, but one who is unafflicted does not come back.”

thenAtha indeedkho a certainaññataro manpuriso to the kingrājānaṁ Pasenadipasenadiṁ of Kosalakosalaṁ said thisetadavoca:
Sañjaya“sañjayo, great kingmahārāja, the brahminbrāhmaṇo of the Ākāsa clanākāsagotto has comeāgato”ti.
thenAtha indeedkho kingrājā Pasenadipasenadi of Kosalakosalo to Sañjayasañjayaṁ the brahminbrāhmaṇaṁ of the Ākāsa clanākāsagottaṁ said thisetadavoca:
who“ko nownu indeedkho, brahminbrāhmaṇa, thisimaṁ topic of discussionkathāvatthuṁ in the royal compoundrājantepure introducedabbhudāhāsī”ti?
Viḍūḍabha“Viṭaṭūbho, great kingmahārāja, the generalsenāpatī”ti.
ViḍūḍabhaViṭaṭūbho generalsenāpati spoke thusevamāha:
Sañjaya“sañjayo, great kingmahārāja, the brahminbrāhmaṇo of the Ākāsa clanākāsagotto”ti.

Then a certain man said to the king, “Great king, Sañjaya, the brahmin of the Ākāsa clan, has come.” Then King Pasenadi asked Sañjaya, “Brahmin, who introduced this topic of discussion to the royal compound?” “It was General Viḍūḍabha, Great King.” But Viḍūḍabha said, “It was Sañjaya, Great King, the brahmin of the Ākāsa clan.”

thenAtha indeedkho a certainaññataro manpuriso the kingrājānaṁ Pasenadipasenadiṁ Kosalankosalaṁ said thisetadavoca:
time to go“yānakālo, Great Kingmahārājā”ti.
thenAtha indeedkho the kingrājā Pasenadipasenadi Kosalankosalo the Blessed Onebhagavantaṁ said thisetadavoca:
omniscience“sabbaññutaṁ wemayaṁ, sirbhante, the Blessed Onebhagavantaṁ askedapucchimhā, omnisciencesabbaññutaṁ the Blessed Onebhagavā answeredbyākāsi;
and thistañca and for uspanamhākaṁ is pleasingruccati indeedceva is acceptablekhamati andca, with thattena and we arecamhā satisfiedattamanā.
purification in the four classesCātuvaṇṇisuddhiṁ wemayaṁ, sirbhante, the Blessed Onebhagavantaṁ askedapucchimhā, purification in the four classescātuvaṇṇisuddhiṁ the Blessed Onebhagavā answeredbyākāsi;
and thistañca and for uspanamhākaṁ is pleasingruccati indeedceva is acceptablekhamati andca, with thattena and we arecamhā satisfiedattamanā.
about the godsAdhideve wemayaṁ, sirbhante, the Blessed Onebhagavantaṁ askedapucchimhā, about the godsadhideve the Blessed Onebhagavā answeredbyākāsi;
and thistañca and for uspanamhākaṁ is pleasingruccati indeedceva is acceptablekhamati andca, with thattena and we arecamhā satisfiedattamanā.
about the divinitiesAdhibrahmānaṁ wemayaṁ, sirbhante, the Blessed Onebhagavantaṁ askedapucchimhā, about the divinitiesadhibrahmānaṁ the Blessed Onebhagavā answeredbyākāsi;
and thistañca and for uspanamhākaṁ is pleasingruccati indeedceva is acceptablekhamati andca, with thattena and we arecamhā satisfiedattamanā.
whateverYaṁ whateveryadeva andca wemayaṁ the Blessed Onebhagavantaṁ askedapucchimhā thattaṁ that verytadeva the Blessed Onebhagavā answeredbyākāsi;

Then a certain man said to the king, “It’s time to go, Great King.” So the king said to the Buddha, “Sir, I asked you about omniscience, and you answered. I endorse and accept this, and am satisfied with it. I asked you about purification in the four classes, about the gods, and about divinities, and you answered in each case. Whatever I asked the Buddha about, he answered.

and thattañca and to uspanamhākaṁ is pleasingruccati and indeedceva is acceptablekhamati andca, with thattena and we arecamhā satisfied.attamanā.
WellHanda thenca nowdāni we,mayaṁ, sir,bhante, go;gacchāma;
having many dutiesbahukiccā wemayaṁ having much to do."bahukaraṇīyā”ti.
"Now when“Yassadāni you,tvaṁ, Great King,mahārāja, the timekālaṁ think."maññasī”ti.

I endorse and accept this, and am satisfied with it. Well, now, sir, I must go. I have many duties, and much to do.” “Please, Great King, go at your convenience.”

thenAtha indeedkho kingrājā Pasenadipasenadi Kosalankosalo of the Blessed Onebhagavato speechbhāsitaṁ having approvedabhinanditvā having agreedanumoditvā having risen from his seatuṭṭhāyāsanā to the Blessed Onebhagavantaṁ having bowedabhivādetvā rightwisepadakkhiṇaṁ having donekatvā he leftpakkāmīti.
the Kaṇṇakatthala SuttaKaṇṇakatthalasuttaṁ is finishedniṭṭhitaṁ the tenthdasamaṁ.
the RājavaggaRājavaggo is finishedniṭṭhito the fourthcatuttho.

Then King Pasenadi approved and agreed with what the Buddha said. Then he got up from his seat, bowed and respectfully circled the Buddha, keeping him on his right, before leaving.

its summaryTassuddānaṁ
GhaṭikāraGhaṭikāro Raṭṭhapāla,raṭṭhapālo,
Maghadevamaghadevo Madhura;madhuriyaṁ;
BodhiBodhi Aṅgulimālaaṅgulimālo and,ca,
Piyajātapiyajātaṁ Bāhitika;bāhitikaṁ;
and the Dhammacetiya Sutta,Dhammacetiyasuttañca,
tenthdasamaṁ Kaṇṇakatthala.kaṇṇakatthalaṁ.

Its summary: Ghaṭikāra, Raṭṭhapāla, Maghadeva, Madhura; Bodhi and Aṅgulimāla, Piyajāta, Bāhitika; and the Dhammacetiya Sutta, tenth is Kaṇṇakatthala.

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