With Assalāyana · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral
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that“Taṁ
whatkiṁ
do you thinkmaññasi,
Assalāyanaassalāyana,
hereidha
a brahmin boybrāhmaṇakumāro
aristocrat·girlkhattiyakaññāya
together withsaddhiṁ
together·dwellsaṁvāsaṁ
should practicekappeyya,
of themtesaṁ
together·dwell·followingsaṁvāsamanvāya
a sonputto
might be bornjāyetha;
whoyo
thatso
by a brahmin boybrāhmaṇakumārena
aristocrat·girlkhattiyakaññāya
sonputto
bornuppanno,
would besiyā
heso
mother·toomātupi
similarsadiso
father·toopitupi
similarsadiso,
an aristocrat too‘khattiyo’tipi
to be calledvattabbo
a brahmin too‘brāhmaṇo’tipi
to be calledvattabbo”ti?
who“Yo
thatso,
sirbho
Gotamagotama,
by a brahmin boybrāhmaṇakumārena
aristocrat·girlkhattiyakaññāya
sonputto
bornuppanno,
would besiyā
heso
mother·toomātupi
similarsadiso
father·toopitupi
similarsadiso,
an aristocrat too‘khattiyo’tipi
to be calledvattabbo
a brahmin too‘brāhmaṇo’tipi
to be calledvattabbo”ti.
“What do you think, Assalāyana? Suppose a brahmin boy was to sleep with an aristocrat girl, and they had a child. Would that child be called an aristocrat after the mother or a brahmin after the father?” “They could be called either.”
that“Taṁ
whatkiṁ
do you thinkmaññasi,
Assalāyanaassalāyana,
hereidha
a marevaḷavaṁ
with a donkeygadrabhena
together·yokesampayojeyyuṁ,
of themtesaṁ
coupling + followingsampayogamanvāya
a foalkisoro
would be bornjāyetha;
whichyo
thatso
from a marevaḷavāya
with a donkeygadrabhena
foalkisoro
bornuppanno,
would it besiyā
itso
even like the mothermātupi
similarsadiso
even like the fatherpitupi
similarsadiso,
as 'a horse' too‘asso’tipi
to be calledvattabbo
as 'a donkey' too‘gadrabho’tipi
to be calledvattabbo”ti?
a crossbreed“Kuṇḍañhi
itso,
sirbho
Gotamagotama,
a muleassataro
ishoti.
thisIdaṁ
indeed + herehissa,
sirbho
Gotamagotama,
differencenānākaraṇaṁ
I seepassāmi;
in the previous casesamutra
butca
but of thesepanesānaṁ
notna
anykiñci
differencenānākaraṇaṁ
I seepassāmī”ti.
“What do you think, Assalāyana? Suppose a mare were to couple with a donkey, and she gave birth to a mule. Would that mule be called a horse after the mother or a donkey after the father?” “It’s a mule, as it is a crossbreed. I see the difference in this case, but not in the previous cases.”
that“Taṁ
whatkiṁ
do you thinkmaññasi,
Assalāyanaassalāyana,
here there wereidhāssu
twodve
young studentsmāṇavakā
brothersbhātaro
who had shared a wombsodariyā,
oneeko
an educated reciterajjhāyako
been educatedupanīto
oneeko
not·reciteranajjhāyako
not been educatedanupanīto.
who hereKamettha
brahminsbrāhmaṇā
firstpaṭhamaṁ
would feedbhojeyyuṁ
at an offering of food for ancestorssaddhe
orvā
at an offering of a dish of milk-ricethālipāke
orvā
at a sacrificeyaññe
orvā
at a feast for guestspāhune
or?vā”ti?
the one“Yo
whoso,
sirbho
Gotamagotama,
young studentmāṇavako
an educated reciterajjhāyako
been educatedupanīto
him heretamettha
brahminsbrāhmaṇā
firstpaṭhamaṁ
would feedbhojeyyuṁ
at an offering of food for ancestorssaddhe
orvā
at an offering of a dish of milk-ricethālipāke
orvā
at a sacrificeyaññe
orvā
at a feast for guestspāhune
or.vā.
for howKiñhi,
sirbho
Gotamagotama,
not·reciteranajjhāyake
to one not been educatedanupanīte
givendinnaṁ
very fruitfulmahapphalaṁ
will be?bhavissatī”ti?
“What do you think, Assalāyana? Suppose there were two young students who were brothers who had shared a womb. One was an educated reciter, while the other was not an educated reciter. Who would the brahmins feed first at an offering of food for ancestors, an offering of a dish of milk-rice, a sacrifice, or a feast for guests?” “They’d first feed the young student who was an educated reciter. For how could an offering to someone who is not an educated reciter be very fruitful?”
that“Taṁ
whatkiṁ
you thinkmaññasi,
Assalāyanaassalāyana,
here indeedidhāssu
twodve
young studentsmāṇavakā
brothersbhātaro
who had shared a wombsodariyā,
oneeko
educated reciterajjhāyako
up·leadupanīto
bad·conductdussīlo
of bad characterpāpadhammo,
oneeko
not·reciteranajjhāyako
not·initiateanupanīto
ethicalsīlavā
of good characterkalyāṇadhammo.
whom hereKamettha
brahminsbrāhmaṇā
firstpaṭhamaṁ
would feedbhojeyyuṁ
at a memorial offeringsaddhe
orvā
at a rice offeringthālipāke
orvā
at a sacrificeyaññe
orvā
at a guest offeringpāhune
or”?”vā”ti?
who“Yo
thatso,
sirbho
Gotamagotama,
young studentmāṇavako
not·reciteranajjhāyako
not·initiateanupanīto
ethicalsīlavā
good·characterkalyāṇadhammo
him + heretamettha
brahminsbrāhmaṇā
firstpaṭhamaṁ
would feedbhojeyyuṁ
at a memorial offeringsaddhe
orvā
at a rice offeringthālipāke
orvā
at a sacrificeyaññe
orvā
at a guest offeringpāhune
or.vā.
for howKiñhi,
sirbho
Gotamagotama,
bad·conductdussīle
bad·characterpāpadhamme
givendinnaṁ
of great fruitmahapphalaṁ
will be”?”bhavissatī”ti?
“What do you think, Assalāyana? Suppose there were two young students who were brothers who had shared a womb. One was an educated reciter, but was unethical, of bad character, while the other was not an educated reciter, but was ethical and of good character. Who would the brahmins feed first?” “They’d first feed the young student who was not an educated reciter, but was ethical and of good character. For how could an offering to someone who is unethical and of bad character be very fruitful?”
formerly“Pubbe
indeedkho
youtvaṁ,
Assalāyanaassalāyana,
birthjātiṁ
you relied onagamāsi;
birthjātiṁ
having gone togantvā
educationmante
you went toagamāsi;
educationmante
having gone togantvā
abstemious behaviortape
you went toagamāsi;
abstemious behaviortape
having gone togantvā
the four classescātuvaṇṇiṁ
purificationsuddhiṁ
you have come aroundpaccāgato,
which + Iyamahaṁ
I advocatepaññapemī”ti.
thusEvaṁ
when saidvutte,
Assalāyanaassalāyano
the brahmin studentmāṇavo
silenttuṇhībhūto
dismayedmaṅkubhūto
shoulders droopingpattakkhandho
downcastadhomukho
depressedpajjhāyanto
with nothing to sayappaṭibhāno
he satnisīdi.
“Firstly you relied on birth, Assalāyana, then you switched to education, then you switched to abstemious behavior. Now you’ve come around to believing in purification for the four classes, just as I advocate.” When he said this, Assalāyana sat silent, dismayed, shoulders drooping, downcast, depressed, with nothing to say.
thenAtha
indeedkho
the Blessed Onebhagavā
Assalāyanaassalāyanaṁ
brahmin studentmāṇavaṁ
silence·becometuṇhībhūtaṁ
dejected·becomemaṅkubhūtaṁ
fallen·shoulderpattakkhandhaṁ
downward·faceadhomukhaṁ
broodingpajjhāyantaṁ
not·back·speakingappaṭibhānaṁ
having knownviditvā
Assalāyanaassalāyanaṁ
brahmin studentmāṇavaṁ
this·saidetadavoca:
once upon a time“bhūtapubbaṁ,
Assalāyanaassalāyana,
of sevensattannaṁ
brahmin·seerbrāhmaṇisīnaṁ
in a wilderness regionaraññāyatane
leaf·hutpaṇṇakuṭīsu
settledsammantānaṁ
just·formevarūpaṁ
harmfulpāpakaṁ
view·gone todiṭṭhigataṁ
up·arisenuppannaṁ
ishoti:
'Only brahmins‘brāhmaṇova
are the bestseṭṭho
classvaṇṇo,
inferiorhīno
otherañño
classvaṇṇo
……
…pe…pe…
heirs of the Divinity’brahmadāyādā’ti.
heardAssosi
indeedkho,
Assalāyanaassalāyana,
Asitaasito
Devaladevalo
seerisi:
'seven‘sattannaṁ
reportedlykira
brahmin·seerbrāhmaṇisīnaṁ
in a wilderness regionaraññāyatane
leaf·hutpaṇṇakuṭīsu
settledsammantānaṁ
just·formevarūpaṁ
harmfulpāpakaṁ
view·gone todiṭṭhigataṁ
up·arisenuppannaṁ—
brahmin·onlybrāhmaṇova
are the bestseṭṭho
classvaṇṇo
…pe……pe…
heirs of the Divinity’brahmadāyādā’ti.
thenAtha
indeedkho,
Assalāyanaassalāyana,
Asitaasito
Devaladevalo
seerisi
hair·beardkesamassuṁ
having arrangedkappetvā
magenta-coloredmañjiṭṭhavaṇṇāni
robesdussāni
having dressed innivāsetvā
linedpaṭaliyo
sandalsupāhanā
having put onāruhitvā
gold·madejātarūpamayaṁ
staffdaṇḍaṁ
having graspedgahetvā
of sevensattannaṁ
brahmin·seerbrāhmaṇisīnaṁ
in the courtyardpatthaṇḍile
appearedpāturahosi.
thenAtha
indeedkho,
Assalāyanaassalāyana,
Asitaasito
Devaladevalo
seerisi
of sevensattannaṁ
brahmin·seerbrāhmaṇisīnaṁ
in the courtyardpatthaṇḍile
wandering aboutcaṅkamamāno
thus·saidevamāha:
'Where‘handa
whoko
nownu
indeedkho
theseime
honorablebhavanto
brahmin seersbrāhmaṇisayo
gonegatā;
Knowing this, the Buddha said to him: “Once upon a time, Assalāyana, seven brahmin seers settled in leaf huts in a wilderness region. They had the following harmful misconception: ‘Only brahmins are the best class; other classes are inferior. Only brahmins are the light class; other classes are dark. Only brahmins are purified, not others. Only brahmins are the Divinity’s bosom sons, born from his mouth, born of the Divinity, created by the Divinity, heirs of the Divinity.’ The seer Devala the Dark heard about this. So he did up his hair and beard, dressed in magenta robes, put on his lined sandals, grasped a golden staff, and appeared in the courtyard of the seven brahmin seers. Then he wandered about the yard saying, ‘Where, oh where have those brahmin seers gone?
come nowhanda
who?ko
thennu
indeedkho
theseime
good sirsbhavanto
brahmin seersbrāhmaṇisayo
have gone?gatā’ti?
thenAtha
indeed,kho,
Assalāyana,assalāyana,
of the sevensattannaṁ
brahmin seersbrāhmaṇisīnaṁ
this occurred:etadahosi:
who‘ko
is thisnāyaṁ
village-lout-likegāmaṇḍalarūpo
likeviya
of the sevensattannaṁ
brahmin seersbrāhmaṇisīnaṁ
on the courtyardpatthaṇḍile
walking aboutcaṅkamamāno
spoke thus:evamāha:
come now“handa
who?ko
thennu
indeedkho
theseime
good sirsbhavanto
brahmin seersbrāhmaṇisayo
have gone;gatā;
come nowhanda
who?ko
thennu
indeedkho
theseime
good sirsbhavanto
brahmin seersbrāhmaṇisayo
have gone?gatāti?
come nowHanda
himnaṁ
let us curseabhisapāmā”’ti.
thenAtha
indeed,kho,
Assalāyana,assalāyana,
sevensatta
brahmin seersbrāhmaṇisayo
Darkasitaṁ
Devaladevalaṁ
the seerisiṁ
cursed:abhisapiṁsu:
be ashes,‘bhasmā,
lowlife,vasala,
be!hohi;
be ashes,bhasmā,
lowlife,vasala,
be!hohī’ti.
asYathā
asyathā
indeed,kho,
Assalāyana,assalāyana,
sevensatta
brahmin seersbrāhmaṇisayo
Darkasitaṁ
Devaladevalaṁ
the seerisiṁ
cursedabhisapiṁsu
sotathā
sotathā
Darkasito
Devaladevalo
the seerisi
more attractiveabhirūpataro
andceva
becomeshoti
more good-lookingdassanīyataro
andca
more lovelypāsādikataro
and.ca.
thenAtha
indeed,kho,
Assalāyana,assalāyana,
of the sevensattannaṁ
brahmin seersbrāhmaṇisīnaṁ
this occurred:etadahosi:
in vain‘moghaṁ
indeedvata
ourno
fervor,tapo,
fruitlessaphalaṁ
the spiritual path.brahmacariyaṁ.
for weMayañhi
previouslypubbe
whomyaṁ
we cursed—abhisapāma—
be ashes,bhasmā,
lowlife,vasala,
be!hohi;
Where, oh where have those brahmin seers gone?’ Then those brahmin seers said, ‘Who’s this wandering about our courtyard like a village lout? Let’s curse him!’ So they cursed Devala the Dark, ‘Be ashes, lowlife! Be ashes, lowlife!’ But the more the seers cursed him, the more attractive, good-looking, and lovely Devala the Dark became. Then those brahmin seers said, ‘Our fervor is in vain! Our spiritual path is fruitless! For when we used to curse someone to become ashes,
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