With Assalāyana · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral
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“Kiñcāpi
bhavaṁ
gotamo
evamāha,
atha
khvettha
brāhmaṇā
evametaṁ
maññanti:
‘brāhmaṇova
seṭṭho
vaṇṇo,
hīno
añño
vaṇṇo
…pe…
brahmadāyādā’”ti.
“Taṁ
kiṁ
maññasi,
assalāyana,
khattiyova
nu
kho
pāṇātipātī
adinnādāyī
kāmesumicchācārī
musāvādī
pisuṇavāco
pharusavāco
samphappalāpī
abhijjhālu
byāpannacitto
micchādiṭṭhi
kāyassa
bhedā
paraṁ
maraṇā
apāyaṁ
duggatiṁ
vinipātaṁ
nirayaṁ
upapajjeyya,
no
brāhmaṇo?
Vessova
nu
kho
…pe…
suddova
nu
kho
pāṇātipātī
adinnādāyī
kāmesumicchācārī
musāvādī
pisuṇavāco
pharusavāco
samphappalāpī
abhijjhālu
byāpannacitto
micchādiṭṭhi
kāyassa
bhedā
paraṁ
maraṇā
apāyaṁ
duggatiṁ
vinipātaṁ
nirayaṁ
upapajjeyya,
no
brāhmaṇo”ti?
“No
hidaṁ,
bho
gotama.
Khattiyopi
hi,
bho
gotama,
pāṇātipātī
adinnādāyī
kāmesumicchācārī
musāvādī
pisuṇavāco
pharusavāco
samphappalāpī
abhijjhālu
byāpannacitto
micchādiṭṭhi
kāyassa
bhedā
paraṁ
maraṇā
apāyaṁ
duggatiṁ
vinipātaṁ
nirayaṁ
upapajjeyya.
“Even though you say this, still the brahmins maintain their belief.” “What do you think, Assalāyana? Suppose an aristocrat were to kill living creatures, steal, and commit sexual misconduct; to use speech that’s false, backbiting, harsh, or nonsensical; and to be covetous, malicious, with wrong view. When their body breaks up, after death, they’d be reborn in a place of loss, a bad place, the underworld, hell. Would this happen only to an aristocrat, and not to a brahmin? Or suppose a peasant, or a menial were to act in the same way. Would that result befall only a peasant or a menial, and not to a brahmin?” “No, worthy Gotama. If they acted the same way, the same result would befall an aristocrat, a brahmin, a peasant, or a menial.
Brāhmaṇopi
hi,
bho
gotama
…pe…
vessopi
hi,
bho
gotama
…pe…
suddopi
hi,
bho
gotama
…pe…
sabbepi
hi,
bho
gotama,
cattāro
vaṇṇā
pāṇātipātino
adinnādāyino
kāmesumicchācārino
musāvādino
pisuṇavācā
pharusavācā
samphappalāpino
abhijjhālū
byāpannacittā
micchādiṭṭhī
kāyassa
bhedā
paraṁ
maraṇā
apāyaṁ
duggatiṁ
vinipātaṁ
nirayaṁ
upapajjeyyun”ti.
“Ettha,
assalāyana,
brāhmaṇānaṁ
kiṁ
balaṁ,
ko
assāso
yadettha
brāhmaṇā
evamāhaṁsu:
‘brāhmaṇova
seṭṭho
vaṇṇo,
hīno
añño
vaṇṇo
…pe…
brahmadāyādā’”ti?
For if any of the four classes were to kill living creatures, steal, and commit sexual misconduct; to use speech that’s false, backbiting, harsh, or nonsensical; and to be covetous, malicious, with wrong view, then, when their body breaks up, after death, they’d be reborn in a place of loss, a bad place, the underworld, hell.” “Then what is the source of the brahmins’ certainty and forcefulness in this matter that they make this claim?”
“Kiñcāpi
bhavaṁ
gotamo
evamāha,
atha
khvettha
brāhmaṇā
evametaṁ
maññanti:
‘brāhmaṇova
seṭṭho
vaṇṇo,
hīno
añño
vaṇṇo
…pe…
brahmadāyādā’”ti.
“Taṁ
kiṁ
maññasi,
assalāyana,
brāhmaṇova
nu
kho
pāṇātipātā
paṭivirato
adinnādānā
paṭivirato
kāmesumicchācārā
paṭivirato
musāvādā
paṭivirato
pisuṇāya
vācāya
paṭivirato
pharusāya
vācāya
paṭivirato
samphappalāpā
paṭivirato
anabhijjhālu
abyāpannacitto
sammādiṭṭhi
kāyassa
bhedā
paraṁ
maraṇā
sugatiṁ
saggaṁ
lokaṁ
upapajjeyya,
no
khattiyo,
no
vesso,
no
suddo”ti?
“No
hidaṁ,
bho
gotama.
Khattiyopi
hi,
bho
gotama,
pāṇātipātā
paṭivirato
adinnādānā
paṭivirato
kāmesumicchācārā
paṭivirato
musāvādā
paṭivirato
pisuṇāya
vācāya
paṭivirato
pharusāya
vācāya
paṭivirato
samphappalāpā
paṭivirato
anabhijjhālu
abyāpannacitto
sammādiṭṭhi
kāyassa
bhedā
paraṁ
maraṇā
sugatiṁ
saggaṁ
lokaṁ
upapajjeyya.
Brāhmaṇopi
hi,
bho
gotama
…pe…
“Even though you say this, still the brahmins maintain their belief.” “What do you think, Assalāyana? Suppose a brahmin were to refrain from killing living creatures, stealing, and sexual misconduct; from using speech that’s false, backbiting, harsh, or nonsensical; and from covetousness, malice, and wrong view. When their body breaks up, after death, they’d be reborn in a good place, a heavenly realm. Would this happen only to a brahmin, and not to an aristocrat, a peasant, or a menial?” “No, worthy Gotama. If they acted the same way, the same result would befall an aristocrat, a brahmin, a peasant, or a menial.
vessopi
hi,
bho
gotama
…pe…
suddopi
hi,
bho
gotama
…pe…
sabbepi
hi,
bho
gotama,
cattāro
vaṇṇā
pāṇātipātā
paṭiviratā
adinnādānā
paṭiviratā
kāmesumicchācārā
paṭiviratā
musāvādā
paṭiviratā
pisuṇāya
vācāya
paṭiviratā
pharusāya
vācāya
paṭiviratā
samphappalāpā
paṭiviratā
anabhijjhālū
abyāpannacittā
sammādiṭṭhī
kāyassa
bhedā
paraṁ
maraṇā
sugatiṁ
saggaṁ
lokaṁ
upapajjeyyun”ti.
“Ettha,
assalāyana,
brāhmaṇānaṁ
kiṁ
balaṁ,
ko
assāso
yadettha
brāhmaṇā
evamāhaṁsu:
‘brāhmaṇova
seṭṭho
vaṇṇo,
hīno
añño
vaṇṇo
…pe…
brahmadāyādā’”ti?
For if any of the four classes were to refrain from killing living creatures, stealing, and sexual misconduct; from using speech that’s false, backbiting, harsh, or nonsensical; and from covetousness, malice, and wrong view, then, when their body breaks up, after death, they’d be reborn in a good place, a heavenly realm.” “Then what is the source of the brahmins’ certainty and forcefulness in this matter that they make this claim?”
“Kiñcāpi
bhavaṁ
gotamo
evamāha,
atha
khvettha
brāhmaṇā
evametaṁ
maññanti:
‘brāhmaṇova
seṭṭho
vaṇṇo,
hīno
añño
vaṇṇo
…pe…
brahmadāyādā’”ti.
“Taṁ
kiṁ
maññasi,
assalāyana,
brāhmaṇova
nu
kho
pahoti
asmiṁ
padese
averaṁ
abyābajjhaṁ
mettacittaṁ
bhāvetuṁ,
no
khattiyo,
no
vesso,
no
suddo”ti?
“No
hidaṁ,
bho
gotama.
Khattiyopi
hi,
bho
gotama,
pahoti
asmiṁ
padese
averaṁ
abyābajjhaṁ
mettacittaṁ
bhāvetuṁ;
brāhmaṇopi
hi,
bho
gotama
…
vessopi
hi,
bho
gotama
…
suddopi
hi,
bho
gotama
…
sabbepi
hi,
bho
gotama,
cattāro
vaṇṇā
pahonti
asmiṁ
padese
averaṁ
abyābajjhaṁ
mettacittaṁ
bhāvetun”ti.
“Ettha,
assalāyana,
brāhmaṇānaṁ
kiṁ
balaṁ,
ko
assāso
yadettha
brāhmaṇā
evamāhaṁsu:
‘brāhmaṇova
seṭṭho
vaṇṇo,
hīno
añño
vaṇṇo
…pe…
brahmadāyādā’”ti?
“Even though you say this, still the brahmins maintain their belief.” “What do you think, Assalāyana? Is only a brahmin capable of developing a heart of love, free of enmity and ill will for this region, and not an aristocrat, peasant, or menial?” “No, worthy Gotama. Aristocrats, brahmins, peasants, and menials can all do so. For all four classes are capable of developing a heart of love, free of enmity and ill will for this region.” “Then what is the source of the brahmins’ certainty and forcefulness in this matter that they make this claim?”
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