With Assalāyana · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral
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Evaṁ
me
sutaṁ—
ekaṁ
samayaṁ
bhagavā
sāvatthiyaṁ
viharati
jetavane
anāthapiṇḍikassa
ārāme.
So I have heard. At one time the Buddha was staying near Sāvatthī in Jeta’s Grove, Anāthapiṇḍika’s monastery.
Tena
kho
pana
samayena
nānāverajjakānaṁ
brāhmaṇānaṁ
pañcamattāni
brāhmaṇasatāni
sāvatthiyaṁ
paṭivasanti
kenacideva
karaṇīyena.
Atha
kho
tesaṁ
brāhmaṇānaṁ
etadahosi:
“ayaṁ
kho
samaṇo
gotamo
cātuvaṇṇiṁ
suddhiṁ
paññapeti.
Ko
nu
kho
pahoti
samaṇena
gotamena
saddhiṁ
asmiṁ
vacane
paṭimantetun”ti?
Now at that time around five hundred brahmins from abroad were residing in Sāvatthī on some business. Then those brahmins thought, “This ascetic Gotama advocates purification for all four classes. Who is capable of debating with him about this?”
Tena
kho
pana
samayena
assalāyano
nāma
māṇavo
sāvatthiyaṁ
paṭivasati
daharo,
vuttasiro,
soḷasavassuddesiko
jātiyā,
tiṇṇaṁ
vedānaṁ
pāragū
sanighaṇḍukeṭubhānaṁ
sākkharappabhedānaṁ
itihāsapañcamānaṁ,
padako,
veyyākaraṇo,
lokāyatamahāpurisalakkhaṇesu
anavayo.
Atha
kho
tesaṁ
brāhmaṇānaṁ
etadahosi:
“ayaṁ
kho
assalāyano
māṇavo
sāvatthiyaṁ
paṭivasati
daharo,
vuttasiro,
soḷasavassuddesiko
jātiyā,
tiṇṇaṁ
vedānaṁ
pāragū
…pe…
anavayo.
So
kho
pahoti
samaṇena
gotamena
saddhiṁ
asmiṁ
vacane
paṭimantetun”ti.
Now at that time the student Assalāyana was residing in Sāvatthī. He was young, tonsured, and sixteen years old. He had mastered the three Vedas, together with their vocabularies and ritual performance, their phonology and word classification, and the testaments as fifth. He knew them word-by-word, and their grammar. He was well versed in cosmology and the marks of a great man. Then those brahmins thought, “This Assalāyana is capable of debating with the ascetic Gotama about this.”
Atha
kho
te
brāhmaṇā
yena
assalāyano
māṇavo
tenupasaṅkamiṁsu;
upasaṅkamitvā
assalāyanaṁ
māṇavaṁ
etadavocuṁ:
“ayaṁ,
bho
assalāyana,
samaṇo
gotamo
cātuvaṇṇiṁ
suddhiṁ
paññapeti.
Etu
bhavaṁ
assalāyano
samaṇena
gotamena
saddhiṁ
asmiṁ
vacane
paṭimantetū”ti.
Evaṁ
vutte,
assalāyano
māṇavo
te
brāhmaṇe
etadavoca:
“samaṇo
khalu,
bho,
gotamo
dhammavādī;
dhammavādino
ca
pana
duppaṭimantiyā
bhavanti.
Nāhaṁ
sakkomi
samaṇena
gotamena
saddhiṁ
asmiṁ
vacane
paṭimantetun”ti.
Dutiyampi
kho
te
brāhmaṇā
assalāyanaṁ
māṇavaṁ
etadavocuṁ:
“ayaṁ,
bho
assalāyana,
samaṇo
gotamo
cātuvaṇṇiṁ
suddhiṁ
paññapeti.
Etu
bhavaṁ
assalāyano
samaṇena
gotamena
saddhiṁ
asmiṁ
vacane
paṭimantetu.
Caritaṁ
kho
pana
bhotā
assalāyanena
paribbājakan”ti.
Dutiyampi
kho
assalāyano
māṇavo
te
brāhmaṇe
etadavoca:
“samaṇo
khalu,
bho,
gotamo
dhammavādī;
So they approached Assalāyana and said to him, “This ascetic Gotama advocates purification for all four classes. Please, worthy Assalāyana, debate with the ascetic Gotama about this.” When they said this, Assalāyana said to them, “They say that the ascetic Gotama is a speaker of principle. But speakers of principle are hard to debate. I’m not capable of debating with the ascetic Gotama about this.” For a second time, those brahmins said to him “This ascetic Gotama advocates purification for all four classes. Please, worthy Assalāyana, debate with the ascetic Gotama about this. For you have lived as a wanderer.” And for a second time, Assalāyana refused.
dhammavādino
ca
pana
duppaṭimantiyā
bhavanti.
Nāhaṁ
sakkomi
samaṇena
gotamena
saddhiṁ
asmiṁ
vacane
paṭimantetun”ti.
Tatiyampi
kho
te
brāhmaṇā
assalāyanaṁ
māṇavaṁ
etadavocuṁ:
“ayaṁ,
bho
assalāyana,
samaṇo
gotamo
cātuvaṇṇiṁ
suddhiṁ
paññapeti.
Etu
bhavaṁ
assalāyano
samaṇena
gotamena
saddhiṁ
asmiṁ
vacane
paṭimantetu.
Caritaṁ
kho
pana
bhotā
assalāyanena
paribbājakaṁ.
Mā
bhavaṁ
assalāyano
ayuddhaparājitaṁ
parājayī”ti.
Evaṁ
vutte,
assalāyano
māṇavo
te
brāhmaṇe
etadavoca:
“addhā
kho
ahaṁ
bhavanto
na
labhāmi.
Samaṇo
khalu,
bho,
gotamo
dhammavādī;
dhammavādino
ca
pana
duppaṭimantiyā
bhavanti.
Nāhaṁ
sakkomi
samaṇena
gotamena
saddhiṁ
asmiṁ
vacane
paṭimantetunti.
Api
cāhaṁ
bhavantānaṁ
vacanena
gamissāmī”ti.
For a third time, those brahmins said to him, “This ascetic Gotama advocates purification for all four classes. Please, worthy Assalāyana, debate with the ascetic Gotama about this. For you have lived as a wanderer. Don’t admit defeat before going into battle!” When they said this, Assalāyana said to them, “Clearly, worthy sirs, I’m not getting through to you when I say: ‘They say that the ascetic Gotama is a speaker of principle. But speakers of principle are hard to debate. I’m not capable of debating with the ascetic Gotama about this.’ Nevertheless, I shall go at your bidding.”
Atha
kho
assalāyano
māṇavo
mahatā
brāhmaṇagaṇena
saddhiṁ
yena
bhagavā
tenupasaṅkami;
upasaṅkamitvā
bhagavatā
saddhiṁ
sammodi.
Sammodanīyaṁ
kathaṁ
sāraṇīyaṁ
vītisāretvā
ekamantaṁ
nisīdi.
Ekamantaṁ
nisinno
kho
assalāyano
māṇavo
bhagavantaṁ
etadavoca:
“brāhmaṇā,
bho
gotama,
evamāhaṁsu:
‘brāhmaṇova
seṭṭho
vaṇṇo,
hīno
añño
vaṇṇo;
brāhmaṇova
sukko
vaṇṇo,
kaṇho
añño
vaṇṇo;
brāhmaṇova
sujjhanti,
no
abrāhmaṇā;
brāhmaṇāva
brahmuno
puttā
orasā
mukhato
jātā
brahmajā
brahmanimmitā
brahmadāyādā’ti.
Idha
bhavaṁ
gotamo
kimāhā”ti?
“Dissanti
kho
pana,
assalāyana,
brāhmaṇānaṁ
brāhmaṇiyo
utuniyopi
gabbhiniyopi
vijāyamānāpi
pāyamānāpi.
Te
ca
brāhmaṇiyonijāva
samānā
evamāhaṁsu:
‘brāhmaṇova
seṭṭho
vaṇṇo,
hīno
añño
vaṇṇo;
brāhmaṇova
sukko
vaṇṇo,
kaṇho
añño
vaṇṇo;
brāhmaṇāva
sujjhanti,
no
abrāhmaṇā;
brāhmaṇāva
brahmuno
puttā
orasā
mukhato
jātā
brahmajā
brahmanimmitā
brahmadāyādā’”ti.
Then Assalāyana together with a large group of brahmins went to the Buddha and exchanged greetings with him. When the greetings and polite conversation were over, he sat down to one side and said to the Buddha: “Worthy Gotama, the brahmins say: ‘Only brahmins are the best class; other classes are inferior. Only brahmins are the light class; other classes are dark. Only brahmins are purified, not others. Only brahmins are the Divinity’s bosom sons, born from his mouth, born of the Divinity, created by the Divinity, heirs of the Divinity.’ What do you say about this?” “But Assalāyana, brahmin women are seen menstruating, being pregnant, giving birth, and breastfeeding. Yet even though they’re born from a brahmin womb they say: ‘Only brahmins are the best class; other classes are inferior. Only brahmins are the light class; other classes are dark. Only brahmins are purified, not others. Only brahmins are the Divinity’s bosom sons, born from his mouth, born of the Divinity, created by the Divinity, heirs of the Divinity.’”
“Kiñcāpi
bhavaṁ
gotamo
evamāha,
atha
khvettha
brāhmaṇā
evametaṁ
maññanti:
‘brāhmaṇova
seṭṭho
vaṇṇo,
hīno
añño
vaṇṇo
…pe…
brahmadāyādā’”ti.
“Taṁ
kiṁ
maññasi,
assalāyana,
sutaṁ
te:
‘yonakambojesu
aññesu
ca
paccantimesu
janapadesu
dveva
vaṇṇā—ayyo
ceva
dāso
ca;
ayyo
hutvā
dāso
hoti,
dāso
hutvā
ayyo
hotī’”ti?
“Evaṁ,
bho,
sutaṁ
taṁ
me:
‘yonakambojesu
aññesu
ca
paccantimesu
janapadesu
dveva
vaṇṇā—ayyo
ceva
dāso
ca;
ayyo
hutvā
dāso
hoti,
dāso
hutvā
ayyo
hotī’”ti.
“Ettha,
assalāyana,
brāhmaṇānaṁ
kiṁ
balaṁ,
ko
assāso
yadettha
brāhmaṇā
evamāhaṁsu:
‘brāhmaṇova
seṭṭho
vaṇṇo,
hīno
añño
vaṇṇo
…pe…
brahmadāyādā’”ti?
“Even though you say this, still the brahmins maintain their belief.” “What do you think, Assalāyana? Have you heard that in Greece and Persia and other foreign lands there are only two classes, masters and bonded servants; and that masters may become servants, and servants masters?” “Yes, I have heard that.” “Then what is the source of the brahmins’ certainty and forcefulness in this matter that they make this claim?”
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