With Caṅkī · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral
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not·measure·praiseaparimāṇavaṇṇo
forhi
thatso
worthybhavaṁ
Gotama.gotamo.
even by one eachEkamekenapi
by thattena
factoraṅgena
endowedsamannāgato
notna
deservesarahati,
thatso
worthybhavaṁ
Gotamagotamo
to usamhākaṁ
for seeingdassanāya
to approachupasaṅkamituṁ;
ratheratha
indeedkho
we·ourselvesmayameva
are fitarahāma
thattaṁ
worthybhavantaṁ
Gotamagotamaṁ
for seeingdassanāya
to approach.upasaṅkamitunti.
By thatTena
then,hi,
sirs,bho,
all·ussabbeva
wemayaṁ
the asceticsamaṇaṁ
Gotamagotamaṁ
for seeingdassanāya
we shall approach."upasaṅkamissāmā”ti.
thenAtha
indeedkho
Caṅkīcaṅkī
brahminbrāhmaṇo
with a largemahatā
brahmin·groupbrāhmaṇagaṇena
together withsaddhiṁ
whereyena
the Blessed Onebhagavā
approached himtenupasaṅkami;
having approachedupasaṅkamitvā
with the Blessed Onebhagavatā
together withsaddhiṁ
exchanged greetingssammodi.
greetingSammodanīyaṁ
conversationkathaṁ
politesāraṇīyaṁ
having exchangedvītisāretvā
to one sideekamantaṁ
he sat downnisīdi.
thenTena
indeedkho
andpana
at the timesamayena
the Blessed Onebhagavā
with seniorvuddhehi
seniorvuddhehi
with brahminsbrāhmaṇehi
togethersaddhiṁ
somekiñci
somekiñci
conversationkathaṁ
politesāraṇīyaṁ
having exchangedvītisāretvā
sittingnisinno
washoti.
thenTena
indeedkho
andpana
at the timesamayena
Kāpaṭikakāpaṭiko
namednāma
studentmāṇavo
youngdaharo
tonsuredvuttasiro
sixteen years oldsoḷasavassuddesiko
by birthjātiyā,
of threetiṇṇaṁ
of Vedasvedānaṁ
masterpāragū
with vocabularies and ritual performancesanighaṇḍukeṭubhānaṁ
with phonology and word classificationsākkharappabhedānaṁ
with testaments as fifthitihāsapañcamānaṁ,
word-by-word knowerpadako,
grammarianveyyākaraṇo,
in cosmology and the marks of a great manlokāyatamahāpurisalakkhaṇesu
well versedanavayo
in thattassaṁ
assemblyparisāyaṁ
sittingnisinno
washoti.
heSo
of seniorvuddhānaṁ
seniorvuddhānaṁ
of brahminsbrāhmaṇānaṁ
with the Blessed Onebhagavatā
togethersaddhiṁ
conversingmantayamānānaṁ
interruptingantarantarā
conversationkathaṁ
he interruptsopāteti.
thenAtha
indeedkho
the Blessed Onebhagavā
Kāpaṭikakāpaṭikaṁ
studentmāṇavaṁ
rebukesapasādeti:
venerable“māyasmā
Bhāradvājabhāradvājo
of seniorvuddhānaṁ
seniorvuddhānaṁ
of brahminsbrāhmaṇānaṁ
conversingmantayamānānaṁ
interruptingantarantarā
conversationkathaṁ
let him interruptopātetu.
end of conversationKathāpariyosānaṁ
venerableāyasmā
Bhāradvājabhāradvājo
let him waitāgametū”ti.
thusEvaṁ
when spokenvutte,
Caṅkīcaṅkī
brahminbrāhmaṇo
to the Blessed Onebhagavantaṁ
this saidetadavoca:
do not“mā
worthybhavaṁ
Gotamagotamo
Kāpaṭikakāpaṭikaṁ
studentmāṇavaṁ
rebukeapasādesi.
family·sonkulaputto andca Kāpaṭikakāpaṭiko studentmāṇavo, much·heardbahussuto andca Kāpaṭikakāpaṭiko studentmāṇavo, astutepaṇḍito andca Kāpaṭikakāpaṭiko studentmāṇavo, good·speakerkalyāṇavākkaraṇo andca Kāpaṭikakāpaṭiko studentmāṇavo, is capablepahoti andca Kāpaṭikakāpaṭiko studentmāṇavo with the worthybhotā Gotamagotamena withsaddhiṁ thisasmiṁ about the statementvacane against·discusspaṭimantetun”ti.
thenAtha
indeedkho
to the Blessed Onebhagavato
this·wasetadahosi:
clearly“addhā
indeedkho
of Kāpaṭikakāpaṭikassa
of the studentmāṇavassa
three·knowledgetevijjake
in the scriptural heritagepāvacane
talkkathā
will bebhavissati.
thusTathā
becausehi
himnaṁ
brahminsbrāhmaṇā
put at the frontsampurekkharontī”ti.
thenAtha
indeedkho
of Kāpaṭikakāpaṭikassa
of the studentmāṇavassa
this·wasetadahosi:
when“yadā
to meme
the asceticsamaṇo
Gotamagotamo
eyecakkhuṁ
toward·directupasaṁharissati,
then Iathāhaṁ
asceticsamaṇaṁ
Gotamagotamaṁ
questionpañhaṁ
will askpucchissāmī”ti.
thenAtha
indeedkho
the Blessed Onebhagavā
of Kāpaṭikakāpaṭikassa
of the studentmāṇavassa
with the mindcetasā
mind·reflection·knowcetoparivitakkamaññāya
whereyena
Kāpaṭikakāpaṭiko
studentmāṇavo
theretena
eyescakkhūni
toward·directupasaṁhāsi.
thenAtha
indeedkho
of Kāpaṭikakāpaṭikassa
of the studentmāṇavassa
this·wasetadahosi:
engages with“samannāharati
indeedkho
memaṁ
asceticsamaṇo
Gotamagotamo.
why-not + IYannūnāhaṁ
asceticsamaṇaṁ
Gotamagotamaṁ
questionpañhaṁ
should askpuccheyyan”ti.
thenAtha
indeedkho
Kāpaṭikakāpaṭiko
studentmāṇavo
to the Blessed Onebhagavantaṁ
this·sayetadavoca:
that which“yadidaṁ,
worthybho
Gotamagotama,
of the brahminsbrāhmaṇānaṁ
ancientporāṇaṁ
hymn·wordmantapadaṁ
testament·lineageitihitihaparamparāya
canon·authoritypiṭakasampadāya,
theretattha
andca
brahminsbrāhmaṇā
categoricallyekaṁsena
conclusionniṭṭhaṁ
comegacchanti:
this very‘idameva
truthsaccaṁ,
futile·othermoghamaññan’ti.
hereIdha
worthybhavaṁ
Gotamagotamo
what + saykimāhā”ti?
what“Kiṁ
thenpana,
Bhāradvājabhāradvāja,
there isatthi
anykoci
of the brahminsbrāhmaṇānaṁ
one·brahmin·evenekabrāhmaṇopi
whoyo
says thusevamāha:
I this‘ahametaṁ
I knowjānāmi,
I·thisahametaṁ
I seepassāmi.
this·onlyIdameva
truthsaccaṁ,
anything else is futilemoghamaññan’”ti?
no“No
indeed thishidaṁ,
worthybho
Gotamagotama”.
what“Kiṁ
thenpana,
Bhāradvājabhāradvāja,
there isatthi
anykoci
of the brahminsbrāhmaṇānaṁ
even a single tutorekācariyopi,
even a tutors' tutorekācariyapācariyopi,
up toyāva
the seventhsattamā
even to the generation of tutorsācariyamahayugāpi,
whoyo
says thusevamāha:
I this‘ahametaṁ
I knowjānāmi,
I·thisahametaṁ
I seepassāmi.
this·onlyIdameva
truthsaccaṁ,
anything else is futilemoghamaññan’”ti?
no“No
indeed thishidaṁ,
worthybho
Gotamagotama”.
what“Kiṁ
thenpana,
Bhāradvājabhāradvāja,
those whoyepi
thosete
of the brahminsbrāhmaṇānaṁ
ancientpubbakā
seersisayo
of the hymnsmantānaṁ
do·authorkattāro
of the hymnsmantānaṁ
propagate·propagatorpavattāro
whose + thisyesamidaṁ
nowetarahi
brahminsbrāhmaṇā
ancientporāṇaṁ
hymn·textmantapadaṁ
sunggītaṁ
propagatedpavuttaṁ
compiledsamihitaṁ
it·sing aftertadanugāyanti
it·chant aftertadanubhāsanti
chanted·chant afterbhāsitamanubhāsanti
taught·teach aftervācitamanuvācenti
namely this—Aṭṭhakaseyyathidaṁ—aṭṭhako
Vāmakavāmako
Vāmadevavāmadevo
Vessāmittavessāmitto
Yamadaggiyamataggi
Aṅgīrasaaṅgīraso
Bhāradvājabhāradvājo
Vāseṭṭhavāseṭṭho
Kassapakassapo
Bhagubhagu,
they·tootepi
they said thusevamāhaṁsu:
we this‘mayametaṁ
we knowjānāma,
we·thismayametaṁ
we seepassāma.
this·onlyIdameva
truthsaccaṁ,
anything else is futilemoghamaññan’”ti?
no“No
indeed thishidaṁ,
worthybho
Gotamagotama”.
thus“Iti
it seemskira,
Bhāradvājabhāradvāja,
there is notnatthi
anykoci
of the brahminsbrāhmaṇānaṁ
one·brahmin·evenekabrāhmaṇopi
whoyo
says thusevamāha:
I this‘ahametaṁ
I knowjānāmi,
I + thisahametaṁ
I seepassāmi.
this + onlyIdameva
truthsaccaṁ,
anything else is futilemoghamaññan’ti;
not + benatthi
anyonekoci
of the brahminsbrāhmaṇānaṁ
one teacher·evenekācariyopi
even with a teacher and a teacher's teacherekācariyapācariyopi,
even as far backyāva
as the seventhsattamā
even up to the seventh generation of tutorsācariyamahayugāpi,
whoyo
thus saysevamāha:
I this‘ahametaṁ
I knowjānāmi,
I + thisahametaṁ
I seepassāmi.
this + onlyIdameva
truthsaccaṁ,
anything else is futilemoghamaññan’ti;
who·evenyepi
thosete
of the brahminsbrāhmaṇānaṁ
ancientpubbakā
seersisayo
of the mantrasmantānaṁ
makerskattāro
of the mantrasmantānaṁ
promulgatorspavattāro
of whom + thisyesamidaṁ
nowetarahi
brahminsbrāhmaṇā
ancientporāṇaṁ
mantra textmantapadaṁ
sunggītaṁ
recitedpavuttaṁ
collectedsamihitaṁ
they chant after thistadanugāyanti
they recite after thistadanubhāsanti
they recite after what was saidbhāsitamanubhāsanti
they recite after what was utteredvācitamanuvācenti
that is to say—Aṭṭhakaseyyathidaṁ—aṭṭhako
Vāmakavāmako
Vāmadevavāmadevo
Vessāmittavessāmitto
Yamataggiyamataggi
Aṅgīrasaaṅgīraso
Bhāradvājabhāradvājo
Vāseṭṭhavāseṭṭho
Kassapakassapo
Bhagubhagu,
they·eventepi
notna
thus saidevamāhaṁsu:
we this‘mayametaṁ
we knowjānāma,
we + thismayametaṁ
we seepassāma.
this + onlyIdameva
truthsaccaṁ,
anything else is futilemoghamaññan’ti.
just asSeyyathāpi,
Bhāradvājabhāradvāja,
blind·queueandhaveṇi
each holding the one in frontparamparāsaṁsattā
first·evenpurimopi
notna
seespassati
middle·evenmajjhimopi
notna
seespassati
last·evenpacchimopi
notna
seespassati;
thus + onlyevameva
indeedkho,
Bhāradvājabhāradvāja,
blind·queue·likeandhaveṇūpamaṁ
I thinkmaññe
of the brahminsbrāhmaṇānaṁ
statementbhāsitaṁ
turns out to be—even the first onesampajjati—purimopi
notna
seespassati
middle·evenmajjhimopi
notna
seespassati
last·evenpacchimopi
notna
seespassati.
thatTaṁ
whatkiṁ
do you thinkmaññasi,
Bhāradvājabhāradvāja,
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