With Caṅkī · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral
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notna thatso dhammadhammo easy to teachsudesiyo by one with hateduṭṭhenā’ti.
It’s not easy for someone with hate to teach this.’
whenYato
himnaṁ
scrutinizingsamannesamāno
purifiedvisuddhaṁ
by qualities provoking hatedosanīyehi
from qualitiesdhammehi
they seesamanupassati,
thentato
himnaṁ
furtheruttari
they scrutinizesamannesati
in qualities promoting delusionmohanīyesu
in qualitiesdhammesu.
there isAtthi
nownu
indeedkho
of this venerableimassāyasmato
suchtathārūpā
qualities promoting delusionmohanīyā
qualitiesdhammā
of such kindyathārūpehi
by qualities promoting delusionmohanīyehi
by qualitiesdhammehi
with mind overwhelmedpariyādinnacitto
not knowingajānaṁ
orvā
they might sayvadeyya—
I knowjānāmīti,
not seeingapassaṁ
orvā
they might sayvadeyya—
I seepassāmīti,
anotherparaṁ
orvā
for that purposetadatthāya
they might encouragesamādapeyya
whichyaṁ
for othersparesaṁ
would beassa
for a long timedīgharattaṁ
for harmahitāya
for sufferingdukkhāyāti?
himTamenaṁ
scrutinizingsamannesamāno
thusevaṁ
they knowjānāti:
there is not‘natthi
indeedkho
of this venerableimassāyasmato
suchtathārūpā
qualities promoting delusionmohanīyā
qualitiesdhammā
of such kindyathārūpehi
by qualities promoting delusionmohanīyehi
by qualitiesdhammehi
with mind overwhelmedpariyādinnacitto
not knowingajānaṁ
orvā
they might sayvadeyya—
I knowjānāmīti,
not seeingapassaṁ
orvā
they might sayvadeyya—
I seepassāmīti,
anotherparaṁ
orvā
for that purposetadatthāya
they might encouragesamādapeyya
whichyaṁ
for othersparesaṁ
would beassa
for a long timedīgharattaṁ
for harmahitāya
for sufferingdukkhāya.
suchTathārūpo
indeedkho
of this venerablepanimassāyasmato
bodily behaviorkāyasamācāro
suchtathārūpo
verbal behaviorvacīsamācāro
asyathā
thattaṁ
of one without delusionamūḷhassa.
whichYaṁ
indeedkho
nowpana
this venerableayamāyasmā
the dhammadhammaṁ
teachesdeseti,
deepgambhīro
thatso
dhammadhammo
hard to seeduddaso
hard to understandduranubodho
peacefulsanto
sublimepaṇīto
beyond the scope of logicatakkāvacaro
subtlenipuṇo
comprehensible to the astutepaṇḍitavedanīyo;
Scrutinizing them in this way they see that they are purified of qualities that provoke hate. Next, they scrutinize them for qualities that promote delusion. ‘Does this venerable have any qualities that promote delusion? Such qualities that, were their mind to be overwhelmed by them, they might say that they know, even though they don’t know, or that they see, even though they don’t see; or that they might encourage others to do what is for their lasting harm and suffering?’ Scrutinizing them they find: ‘This venerable has no such qualities that promote delusion. Rather, that venerable has bodily and verbal behavior like that of someone without delusion. And the principle that they teach is deep, hard to see, hard to understand, peaceful, sublime, beyond the scope of logic, subtle, comprehensible to the astute.
notna thisso teachingdhammo easy to teachsudesiyo by one with delusion, they saymūḷhenā’ti.
It’s not easy for someone with delusion to teach this.’
whenYato
themnaṁ
scrutinizingsamannesamāno
purifiedvisuddhaṁ
of qualities that promote delusionmohanīyehi
of qualitiesdhammehi
they seesamanupassati;
nextatha
in themtamhi
faithsaddhaṁ
they placeniveseti,
when faith has arisensaddhājāto
they approachupasaṅkamati,
approachingupasaṅkamanto
they pay homagepayirupāsati,
paying homagepayirupāsanto
earsotaṁ
they lendodahati,
with ear lentohitasoto
the teachingdhammaṁ
they hearsuṇāti,
having heardsutvā
the teachingdhammaṁ
they rememberdhāreti,
of remembereddhatānaṁ
of teachingsdhammānaṁ
the meaningatthaṁ
they examineupaparikkhati,
the meaningatthaṁ
examiningupaparikkhato
teachingsdhammā
deliberationnijjhānaṁ
they acceptkhamanti,
by acceptance of the teaching after deliberationdhammanijjhānakkhantiyā
beingsati
enthusiasmchando
springs upjāyati,
with enthusiasm arisenchandajāto
they make an attemptussahati,
having made an attemptussahitvā
they weigh uptuleti,
having weighed uptulayitvā
they strivepadahati,
strivingpahitatto
beingsamāno
with the bodykāyena
andceva
the ultimate truthparamasaccaṁ
they directly realizesacchikaroti
with wisdompaññāya
andca
itnaṁ
penetratingativijjha
they seepassati.
to this extentEttāvatā
indeedkho,
Bhāradvājabhāradvāja,
awakening to truthsaccānubodho
there ishoti,
to this extentettāvatā
one awakens to truthsaccamanubujjhati,
to this extentettāvatā
andca
wemayaṁ
awakening to truthsaccānubodhaṁ
we describepaññapema;
notna
buttveva
yettāva
attainment of truthsaccānuppatti
there ishotī”ti.
Scrutinizing them in this way they see that they are purified of qualities that promote delusion. Next, they place faith in them. When faith has arisen they approach the teacher. They pay homage, actively listen, hear the teachings, remember the teachings, examine their meaning, and accept them after deliberation. Then enthusiasm springs up; they make an attempt, weigh up, and strive. Striving, they directly realize the ultimate truth, and see it with penetrating wisdom. That’s how the awakening to truth is defined, Bhāradvāja. I describe the awakening to truth as defined in this way. But this is not yet the attainment of truth.”
to this extent“Ettāvatā,
sirbho
Gotamagotama,
awakening to truthsaccānubodho
ishoti,
to this extentettāvatā
awakens to truthsaccamanubujjhati,
to this extentettāvatā
andca
wemayaṁ
awakening to truthsaccānubodhaṁ
we regardpekkhāma.
to what extentKittāvatā
butpana,
sirbho
Gotamagotama,
attainment of truthsaccānuppatti
ishoti,
to what extentkittāvatā
attains truthsaccamanupāpuṇāti?
attainment of truthSaccānuppattiṁ
wemayaṁ
worthybhavantaṁ
Gotamagotamaṁ
we askpucchāmā”ti.
of these very same“Tesaṁyeva,
Bhāradvājabhāradvāja,
thingsdhammānaṁ
cultivationāsevanā
developmentbhāvanā
making muchbahulīkammaṁ
attainment of truthsaccānuppatti
ishoti.
to this extentEttāvatā
indeedkho,
Bhāradvājabhāradvāja,
attainment of truthsaccānuppatti
ishoti,
to this extentettāvatā
attains truthsaccamanupāpuṇāti,
to this extentettāvatā
andca
wemayaṁ
attainment of truthsaccānuppattiṁ
we describepaññapemā”ti.
“That’s how the awakening to truth is defined, worthy Gotama. I regard the awakening to truth as defined in this way. But worthy Gotama, how do you define the attainment of truth?” “By the cultivation, development, and making much of these very same things there is the attainment of truth. That’s how the attainment of truth is defined, Bhāradvāja. I describe the attainment of truth as defined in this way.”
thus far“Ettāvatā,
worthybho
Gotamagotama,
the attainment of truthsaccānuppatti
ishoti,
thus farettāvatā
arrives at the truthsaccamanupāpuṇāti,
thus farettāvatā
andca
wemayaṁ
the attainment of truthsaccānuppattiṁ
regardpekkhāma.
of the attainment of truthSaccānuppattiyā
butpana,
worthybho
Gotamagotama,
whatkatamo
qualitydhammo
helpfulbahukāro?
for arriving at the truthSaccānuppattiyā
helpfulbahukāraṁ
qualitydhammaṁ
wemayaṁ
masterbhavantaṁ
Gotamagotamaṁ
askpucchāmā”ti.
for arriving at the truth“Saccānuppattiyā
indeedkho,
Bhāradvājabhāradvāja,
strivingpadhānaṁ
helpfulbahukāraṁ.
if notNo
thiscetaṁ
would strivepadaheyya,
not thisnayidaṁ
would arrive at the truthsaccamanupāpuṇeyya.
becauseYasmā
andca
indeedkho
strivespadahati
thereforetasmā
arrives at the truthsaccamanupāpuṇāti.
thereforeTasmā
for arriving at the truthsaccānuppattiyā
strivingpadhānaṁ
helpfulbahukāran”ti.
“That’s how the attainment of truth is defined, worthy Gotama. I regard the attainment of truth as defined in this way. But what quality is helpful for arriving at the truth?” “Striving is helpful for arriving at the truth. If you don’t strive, you won’t arrive at the truth. You arrive at the truth because you strive. That’s why striving is helpful for arriving at the truth.”
for striving“Padhānassa
butpana,
sirbho
Gotamagotama,
whatkatamo
qualitydhammo
helpfulbahukāro?
for strivingPadhānassa
helpfulbahukāraṁ
qualitydhammaṁ
wemayaṁ
Masterbhavantaṁ
Gotamagotamaṁ
we askpucchāmā”ti.
for striving“Padhānassa
indeedkho,
Bhāradvājabhāradvāja,
weighing uptulanā
helpfulbahukārā.
notNo
thiscetaṁ
would weigh uptuleyya,
thisnayidaṁ
would strivepadaheyya.
becauseYasmā
andca
indeedkho
weighs uptuleti
thereforetasmā
strivespadahati.
thereforeTasmā
for strivingpadhānassa
weighing uptulanā
helpfulbahukārā”ti.
“But what quality is helpful for striving?” “Weighing up the teachings is helpful for striving …
for weighing up“Tulanāya
thenpana,
sirbho
Gotamagotama,
whichkatamo
teachingdhammo
helpful?bahukāro?
for weighing upTulanāya
helpfulbahukāraṁ
teachingdhammaṁ
wemayaṁ
Masterbhavantaṁ
Gotamagotamaṁ
we ask”pucchāmā”ti.
for weighing up“Tulanāya
indeedkho,
Bhāradvājabhāradvāja,
making an attemptussāho
helpfulbahukāro.
notNo
if one did not make this attemptcetaṁ
would make an attemptussaheyya,
one would notnayidaṁ
weigh up thistuleyya.
becauseYasmā
andca
indeedkho
one makes an attemptussahati
thereforetasmā
one weighs uptuleti.
thereforeTasmā
for weighing uptulanāya
making an attemptussāho
helpful”bahukāro”ti.
Making an attempt is helpful for weighing up the teachings …
for enthusiasm“Ussāhassa
thenpana,
sirbho
Gotamagotama,
whatkatamo
qualitydhammo
is very helpful?bahukāro?
for enthusiasmUssāhassa
very helpfulbahukāraṁ
qualitydhammaṁ
wemayaṁ
the venerablebhavantaṁ
Gotamagotamaṁ
we ask”pucchāmā”ti.
“for enthusiasm“Ussāhassa
indeedkho,
Bhāradvājabhāradvāja,
desirechando
is very helpful.bahukāro.
notNo
indeed thiscetaṁ
desirechando
would arise,jāyetha,
not indeed thisnayidaṁ
one would make an attempt.ussaheyya.
sinceYasmā
andca
indeedkho
desirechando
arisesjāyati
thereforetasmā
one makes an attempt.ussahati.
thereforeTasmā
for enthusiasmussāhassa
desirechando
is very helpful”bahukāro”ti.
Enthusiasm is helpful for making an attempt …
for enthusiasm“Chandassa
thenpana,
sirbho
Gotamagotama,
whichkatamo
teachingdhammo
most helpful?bahukāro?
for enthusiasmChandassa
helpfulbahukāraṁ
teachingdhammaṁ
wemayaṁ
the honorablebhavantaṁ
Gotamagotamaṁ
we askpucchāmā”ti.
for enthusiasm“Chandassa
indeedkho,
Bhāradvājabhāradvāja,
acceptance of teachings after deliberationdhammanijjhānakkhanti
helpfulbahukārā.
if notNo
and thesecete
teachingsdhammā
deliberationnijjhānaṁ
would withstandkhameyyuṁ,
then thisnayidaṁ
enthusiasmchando
would arisejāyetha.
becauseYasmā
andca
indeedkho
teachingsdhammā
deliberationnijjhānaṁ
withstandkhamanti
thereforetasmā
enthusiasmchando
arisesjāyati.
thereforeTasmā
for enthusiasmchandassa
acceptance of teachings after deliberationdhammanijjhānakkhanti
helpfulbahukārā”ti.
Acceptance of the teachings after deliberation is helpful for enthusiasm …
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