With Vāseṭṭha · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral
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thusEvaṁ
by meme
heard —sutaṁ—
oneekaṁ
timesamayaṁ
the Blessed Onebhagavā
in Icchānaṅgalaicchānaṅgale
was stayingviharati
in the Icchānaṅgala forest thicket.icchānaṅgalavanasaṇḍe.
at that timeTena
indeedkho
nowpana
at the timesamayena
severalsambahulā
very well-knownabhiññātā
very well-knownabhiññātā
well-to-do brahminsbrāhmaṇamahāsālā
in Icchānaṅgalaicchānaṅgale
were residingpaṭivasanti,
that is to sayseyyathidaṁ—
Caṅkīcaṅkī
the brahminbrāhmaṇo,
Tārukkhatārukkho
the brahminbrāhmaṇo,
Pokkharasātipokkharasāti
the brahminbrāhmaṇo,
Jāṇussoṇijāṇussoṇi
the brahminbrāhmaṇo,
Todeyyatodeyyo
the brahminbrāhmaṇo,
othersaññe
andca
very well-knownabhiññātā
very well-knownabhiññātā
well-to-do brahminsbrāhmaṇamahāsālā.
thenAtha
indeedkho
of Vāseṭṭha-and-Bhāradvājavāseṭṭhabhāradvājānaṁ
of the studentsmāṇavānaṁ
for a walkjaṅghāvihāraṁ
of those walking aboutanucaṅkamantānaṁ
of those wandering aboutanuvicarantānaṁ
this intermediate talkayamantarākathā
aroseudapādi:
“how,“kathaṁ,
sir,bho,
a brahminbrāhmaṇo
does one become?”hotī”ti?
BhāradvājaBhāradvājo
the studentmāṇavo
said this:evamāha:
“when“yato
indeed,kho,
sir,bho,
on both sidesubhato
well bornsujāto
on the mother’s sidemātito
andca
on the father’s sidepitito
andca
stemming from a clean vesselsaṁsuddhagahaṇiko
as far asyāva
the seventhsattamā
generation of paternal ancestorspitāmahayugā
irrefutableakkhitto
impeccableanupakkuṭṭho
with respect to birth—jātivādena—
to that extentettāvatā
indeed,kho,
sir,bho,
a brahminbrāhmaṇo
does one become.”hotī”ti.
VāseṭṭhaVāseṭṭho
the studentmāṇavo
said this:evamāha:
“when“yato
indeed,kho,
sir,bho,
ethicalsīlavā
andca
one ishoti
accomplished in doing one’s dutiesvattasampanno
and—ca—
to that extentettāvatā
indeed,kho,
sir,bho,
a brahminbrāhmaṇo
does one become.”hotī”ti.
but neitherNeva indeedkho was ableasakkhi Bhāradvājabhāradvājo young brahminmāṇavo Vāseṭṭhavāseṭṭhaṁ young brahminmāṇavaṁ to persuadesaññāpetuṁ, notna butpana was ableasakkhi Vāseṭṭhavāseṭṭho young brahminmāṇavo Bhāradvājabhāradvājaṁ young brahminmāṇavaṁ to persuadesaññāpetuṁ.
thenAtha
indeedkho
Vāseṭṭhavāseṭṭho
young brahminmāṇavo
to Bhāradvājabhāradvājaṁ
young brahminmāṇavaṁ
addressedāmantesi:
this“ayaṁ
indeedkho,
worthy sirbho
Bhāradvājabhāradvāja,
asceticsamaṇo
Gotamagotamo
son of the Sakyanssakyaputto
from a Sakyan familysakyakulā
gone forthpabbajito
in Icchānaṅgalaicchānaṅgale
is stayingviharati
in the Icchānaṅgala forest groveicchānaṅgalavanasaṇḍe.
himTaṁ
indeedkho
nowpana
the venerablebhavantaṁ
Gotamagotamaṁ
thusevaṁ
goodkalyāṇo
reputationkittisaddo
spread abroadabbhuggato:
because of this‘itipi
heso
the Blessed Onebhagavā
perfectedarahaṁ
fully awakened Buddhasammāsambuddho
accomplished in knowledge and conductvijjācaraṇasampanno
holysugato
knower of the worldlokavidū
supremeanuttaro
guide for those fit for trainingpurisadammasārathi
teachersatthā
of gods and humansdevamanussānaṁ
awakenedbuddho
blessedbhagavā’ti.
comeĀyāma,
worthy sirbho
Bhāradvājabhāradvāja,
whereyena
asceticsamaṇo
Gotamagotamo
to him we will approachtenupasaṅkamissāma;
having approachedupasaṅkamitvā
the asceticsamaṇaṁ
Gotamagotamaṁ
this matteretamatthaṁ
we will askpucchissāma.
asYathā
to usno
asceticsamaṇo
Gotamagotamo
will answerbyākarissati
sotathā
itnaṁ
we will rememberdhāressāmā”ti.
yes“Evaṁ,
worthy sirbho”ti
indeedkho
Bhāradvājabhāradvājo
young brahminmāṇavo
to Vāseṭṭhavāseṭṭhassa
young brahminmāṇavassa
repliedpaccassosi.
thenAtha
indeedkho
Vāseṭṭha-and-Bhāradvājavāseṭṭhabhāradvājā
young brahminsmāṇavā
whereyena
the Blessed Onebhagavā
to him they approachedtenupasaṅkamiṁsu;
having approachedupasaṅkamitvā
with the Blessed Onebhagavatā
withsaddhiṁ
they exchanged greetingssammodiṁsu.
of greetingsSammodanīyaṁ
conversationkathaṁ
politesāraṇīyaṁ
having exchangedvītisāretvā
to one sideekamantaṁ
they sat downnisīdiṁsu.
to one sideEkamantaṁ
seatednisinno
indeedkho
Vāseṭṭhavāseṭṭho
young brahminmāṇavo
the Blessed Onebhagavantaṁ
with versesgāthāhi
he addressedajjhabhāsi:
approved and acknowledged“Anuññātapaṭiññātā,
masters of the three Vedastevijjā
we are bothmayamasmubho;
IAhaṁ
of Pokkharasātipokkharasātissa,
and he is of Tārukkhatārukkhassāyaṁ
studentmāṇavo.
of the three-Veda mastersTevijjānaṁ
whatever is taughtyadakkhātaṁ,
theretatra
we are fully qualifiedkevalinosmase;
as philologistsPadakasmā
grammariansveyyākaraṇā,
in recitationjappe
matching our tutorsācariyasādisā;
of thoseTesaṁ
ourno
in the debate on birthjātivādasmiṁ,
disputevivādo
there isatthi
Gotamagotama.
due to birthJātiyā
a brahminbrāhmaṇo
ishoti,
Bhāradvājabhāradvājo
thusiti
speaksbhāsati;
but IAhañca
due to deedskammunā
I declarebrūmi,
thusevaṁ
knowjānāhi
clear-eyed onecakkhuma.
weTe
notna
we are ablesakkoma
to convinceñāpetuṁ,
each otheraññamaññaṁ
wemayaṁ
bothubho;
sirBhavantaṁ
we have come to askpuṭṭhumāgamā,
fully awakenedsambuddhaṁ
thusiti
renownedvissutaṁ.
the moonCandaṁ
asyathā
passed beyond waningkhayātītaṁ,
afterwardspecca
with cupped palmspañjalikā
peoplejanā;
bowingVandamānā
they honornamassanti,
in the worldlokasmiṁ
Gotamagotamaṁ.
the eyeCakkhuṁ
in the worldloke
arisensamuppannaṁ,
wemayaṁ
askpucchāma
Gotamagotamaṁ;
due to birthJātiyā
a brahminbrāhmaṇo
ishoti,
orudāhu
does one becomebhavati
due to deedskammunā;
to us who do not knowAjānataṁ
ourno
tellpabrūhi,
so thatyathā
we may knowjānemu
a brahminbrāhmaṇan”ti.
of those“Tesaṁ
to youvo
Iahaṁ
I shall explainbyakkhissaṁ,
Vāseṭṭha, quotation marker(vāseṭṭhāti
the Blessed Onebhagavā)
in sequenceAnupubbaṁ
accuratelyyathātathaṁ;
the taxonomyJātivibhaṅgaṁ
of living creaturespāṇānaṁ,
for speciesAññamaññāhi
are diversejātiyo.
grass and trees, tooTiṇarukkhepi
knowjānātha,
notna
andcāpi
they lack self-awarenesspaṭijānare;
definedLiṅgaṁ
by birthjātimayaṁ
of themtesaṁ,
for speciesaññamaññā
indeedhi
are diversejātiyo.
nextTato
bugskīṭe
that crawlpaṭaṅge
andca,
and so onyāva
to ants and termiteskunthakipillike;
definedLiṅgaṁ
by birthjātimayaṁ
of themtesaṁ,
for speciesaññamaññā
indeedhi
are diversejātiyo.
quadrupeds, tooCatuppadepi
knowjānātha,
smallkhuddake
andca
largemahallake;
definedLiṅgaṁ
by birthjātimayaṁ
of themtesaṁ,
for speciesaññamaññā
indeedhi
are diversejātiyo.
crawling on their bellies, tooPādudarepi
knowjānātha,
snakesurage
long-backeddīghapiṭṭhike;
definedLiṅgaṁ
by birthjātimayaṁ
of themtesaṁ,
for speciesaññamaññā
indeedhi
are diversejātiyo.
nextTato
fish, toomacchepi
knowjānātha,
in the waterudake
whose habitat is watervārigocare;
definedLiṅgaṁ
by birthjātimayaṁ
of themtesaṁ,
for speciesaññamaññā
indeedhi
are diversejātiyo.
nextTato
birds, toopakkhīpi
knowjānātha,
winged chariotspattayāne
in flightvihaṅgame;
definedLiṅgaṁ
by birthjātimayaṁ
of themtesaṁ,
for speciesaññamaññā
indeedhi
are diversejātiyo.
asYathā
in theseetāsu
among speciesjātīsu,
the distinctionliṅgaṁ
born of birthjātimayaṁ
diverseputhu;
thusEvaṁ
there is notnatthi
among humansmanussesu,
a distinctionliṅgaṁ
born of birthjātimayaṁ
diverseputhu.
notNa
by hairkesehi
notna
by headsīsehi,
notna
by earkaṇṇehi
notna
by eyeakkhīhi;
notNa
by mouthmukhena
notna
by nosenāsāya,
notna
by lipsoṭṭhehi
by eyebrowsbhamūhi
orvā.
notNa
by neckgīvāya
notna
by shouldersaṁsehi,
notna
by bellyudarena
notna
by backpiṭṭhiyā;
notNa
by buttockssoṇiyā
notna
by breasturasā,
notna
by groinsambādhe
notna
by genitalsmethune.
notNa
by handshatthehi
notna
by feetpādehi,
by fingersnaṅgulīhi
by nailsnakhehi
orvā;
notNa
by kneesjaṅghāhi
notna
by thighsūrūhi,
notna
by colorvaṇṇena
by voicesarena
orvā;
a distinctionLiṅgaṁ
born of birthjātimayaṁ
indeed notneva,
asyathā
in otheraññāsu
among speciesjātisu.
and individuallyPaccattañca
in bodiessarīresu,
this among humansmanussesvetaṁ
notna
is foundvijjati;
and the distinctionVokārañca
among humansmanussesu,
by conventionsamaññāya
is spoken ofpavuccati.
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