With Subha · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral
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just as“Seyyathāpi,
young brahminmāṇava,
birth·blindjaccandho
a personpuriso
notna
could seepasseyya
dark·brightkaṇhasukkāni
sightsrūpāni,
notna
could seepasseyya
bluenīlakāni
sightsrūpāni,
notna
could seepasseyya
yellowpītakāni
sightsrūpāni,
notna
could seepasseyya
redlohitakāni
sightsrūpāni,
notna
could seepasseyya
magentamañjiṭṭhakāni
sightsrūpāni,
notna
could seepasseyya
even and unevensamavisamaṁ,
notna
could seepasseyya
the starstārakarūpāni,
notna
could seepasseyya
moon and suncandimasūriye.
theySo
thusevaṁ
would sayvadeyya:
there is not‘natthi
dark·brightkaṇhasukkāni
sightsrūpāni,
there is notnatthi
dark·brightkaṇhasukkānaṁ
of sightsrūpānaṁ
a seerdassāvī;
there is notnatthi
bluenīlakāni
sightsrūpāni,
there is notnatthi
of bluenīlakānaṁ
of sightsrūpānaṁ
a seerdassāvī;
there is notnatthi
yellowpītakāni
sightsrūpāni,
there is notnatthi
of yellowpītakānaṁ
of sightsrūpānaṁ
a seerdassāvī;
there is notnatthi
redlohitakāni
sightsrūpāni,
there is notnatthi
of redlohitakānaṁ
of sightsrūpānaṁ
a seerdassāvī;
there is notnatthi
magentamañjiṭṭhakāni
sightsrūpāni,
there is notnatthi
of magentamañjiṭṭhakānaṁ
of sightsrūpānaṁ
a seerdassāvī;
there is notnatthi
even and unevensamavisamaṁ,
there is notnatthi
even·unevensamavisamassa
a seerdassāvī;
there is notnatthi
the starstārakarūpāni,
there is notnatthi
star·formtārakarūpānaṁ
a seerdassāvī;
there is notnatthi
moon and suncandimasūriyā,
there is notnatthi
moon·suncandimasūriyānaṁ
a seerdassāvī.
I + thisAhametaṁ
notna
I knowjānāmi,
I + thisahametaṁ
notna
I seepassāmi;
thereforetasmā
thattaṁ
does not existnatthī’ti.
rightlySammā
nownu
indeedkho
heso,
studentmāṇava,
speakingvadamāno
would speakvadeyyā”ti?
no“No
here + indeedhidaṁ,
worthybho
Gotamagotama.
there·beAtthi
dark·brightkaṇhasukkāni
sightsrūpāni,
there·beatthi
dark·brightkaṇhasukkānaṁ
of sightsrūpānaṁ
one who seesdassāvī;
there·beatthi
bluenīlakāni
sightsrūpāni,
there·beatthi
of bluenīlakānaṁ
of sightsrūpānaṁ
one who seesdassāvī;
there·beatthi
yellowpītakāni
sightsrūpāni,
there·beatthi
of yellowpītakānaṁ
of sightsrūpānaṁ
one who seesdassāvī;
there·beatthi
redlohitakāni
sightsrūpāni,
there·beatthi
of redlohitakānaṁ
of sightsrūpānaṁ
one who seesdassāvī;
there·beatthi
magentamañjiṭṭhakāni
sightsrūpāni,
there·beatthi
of magentamañjiṭṭhakānaṁ
of sightsrūpānaṁ
one who seesdassāvī;
there·beatthi
even·unevensamavisamaṁ,
there·beatthi
even·unevensamavisamassa
one who seesdassāvī;
there·beatthi
star·sighttārakarūpāni,
there·beatthi
star·sighttārakarūpānaṁ
one who seesdassāvī;
there·beatthi
moon·suncandimasūriyā,
there·beatthi
moon·suncandimasūriyānaṁ
one who seesdassāvī.
I this‘Ahametaṁ
notna
knowjānāmi,
I + thisahametaṁ
notna
seepassāmi;
thereforetasmā
ittaṁ
not·benatthī’ti;
notna
indeedhi
heso,
worthybho
Gotamagotama,
rightlysammā
speakingvadamāno
would speakvadeyyā”ti.
just so“Evameva
indeedkho,
studentmāṇava,
brahminbrāhmaṇo
Pokkharasātipokkharasāti
of Opamaññaopamañño
of Subhagavanasubhagavaniko
blindandho
sightlessacakkhuko.
heSo
surelyvata
beyonduttari
human·statesmanussadhammā
worthy + noble + knowledge + vision + distinctionalamariyañāṇadassanavisesaṁ
will knowñassati
orvā
will seedakkhati
orvā
directlysacchi
orvā
do + not + thiskarissatīti—netaṁ
placeṭhānaṁ
existsvijjati.
thatTaṁ
whatkiṁ
do you thinkmaññasi,
studentmāṇava,
whoye
thosete
of Kosalakosalakā
well-to-do brahminsbrāhmaṇamahāsālā,
that is to sayseyyathidaṁ—
Caṅkīcaṅkī
brahminbrāhmaṇo
Tārukkhatārukkho
brahminbrāhmaṇo
Pokkharasātipokkharasāti
brahminbrāhmaṇo
Jāṇussoṇijāṇussoṇi
brahminbrāhmaṇo
fatherpitā
andca
yourte
Todeyyatodeyyo,
whichkatamā
of themnesaṁ
betterseyyo,
thatyaṁ
orvā
theyte
in agreementsammuccā
speechvācaṁ
would speakbhāseyyuṁ
thatyaṁ
orvā
in disagreementasammuccā”ti?
in agreement“Sammuccā,
worthybho
Gotamagotama”.
which“Katamā
of themnesaṁ
betterseyyo,
thatyaṁ
orvā
theyte
thoughtfulmantā
speechvācaṁ
would speakbhāseyyuṁ
thatyaṁ
orvā
thoughtlessamantā”ti?
thoughtful“Mantā,
worthybho
Gotamagotama”.
which“Katamā
of themnesaṁ
betterseyyo,
thatyaṁ
orvā
theyte
after reflectionpaṭisaṅkhāya
speechvācaṁ
would speakbhāseyyuṁ
thatyaṁ
orvā
unreflectiveappaṭisaṅkhāyā”ti?
after reflection“Paṭisaṅkhāya,
worthybho
Gotamagotama”.
which“Katamā
for themnesaṁ
betterseyyo,
whichyaṁ
orvā
theirte
benefit·connectedatthasaṁhitaṁ
speechvācaṁ
they might speakbhāseyyuṁ
whichyaṁ
orvā
worthless·connectedanatthasaṁhitan”ti?
beneficial“Atthasaṁhitaṁ,
sirbho
Gotamagotama”.
that“Taṁ
whatkiṁ
do you thinkmaññasi,
studentmāṇava,
ifyadi
thusevaṁ
being sosante,
by the brahminbrāhmaṇena
Pokkharasātipokkharasātinā
of Opamaññaopamaññena
of the Subhaga forestsubhagavanikena
in agreementsammuccā
speechvācā
spokenbhāsitā
not·agreementasammuccā”ti?
in disagreement“Asammuccā,
worthybho
Gotamagotama”.
thoughtful“Mantā
speechvācā
spokenbhāsitā
not·thoughtfulamantā
orvā”ti?
thoughtless“Amantā,
worthybho
Gotamagotama”.
reflective“Paṭisaṅkhāya
speechvācā
spokenbhāsitā
or unreflective?appaṭisaṅkhāyā”ti?
unreflective“Appaṭisaṅkhāya,
worthybho
Gotamagotama”.
beneficial“Atthasaṁhitā
speechvācā
spokenbhāsitā
or worthless?anatthasaṁhitā”ti?
worthless“Anatthasaṁhitā,
worthybho
Gotamagotama”.
five“Pañca
indeedkho
theseime,
studentmāṇava,
hindrancesnīvaraṇā.
whichKatame
five?pañca?
sensual desire·desire·hindranceKāmacchandanīvaraṇaṁ,
ill will·hindrancebyāpādanīvaraṇaṁ,
dullness·drowsiness·hindrancethinamiddhanīvaraṇaṁ
restlessness·remorse·hindranceuddhaccakukkuccanīvaraṇaṁ,
doubt·hindrancevicikicchānīvaraṇaṁ—
theseime
indeedkho,
studentmāṇava,
fivepañca
hindrancesnīvaraṇā.
by theseImehi
indeedkho,
studentmāṇava,
fivepañcahi
by hindrancesnīvaraṇehi
brahminbrāhmaṇo
Pokkharasātipokkharasāti
Opamaññaopamañño
Subhagavanikasubhagavaniko
obstructedāvuto
hinderednivuto
engulfedophuṭo
envelopedpariyonaddho.
heSo
indeedvata
beyonduttari
human·dhammamanussadhammā
worthy of the noble ones·knowledge·vision·distinctionalamariyañāṇadassanavisesaṁ
will knowñassati
orvā
will seedakkhati
orvā
realizesacchi
orvā
do + thiskarissatīti—netaṁ
groundṭhānaṁ
existsvijjati.
fivePañca
indeedkho
theseime,
studentmāṇava,
sensual·strandkāmaguṇā.
whatKatame
fivepañca?
eye·knowableCakkhuviññeyyā
sightsrūpā
likableiṭṭhā
desirablekantā
agreeablemanāpā
pleasant·formpiyarūpā
sensual·connectedkāmūpasaṁhitā
arousingrajanīyā;
ear·knowablesotaviññeyyā
soundssaddā
…pe……pe…
nose·knowableghānaviññeyyā
smellsgandhā
……
tonguejivhā
knowableviññeyyā
tastesrasā
……
body·knowablekāyaviññeyyā
touchesphoṭṭhabbā
likableiṭṭhā
desirablekantā
agreeablemanāpā
pleasant·formpiyarūpā
sensual·connectedkāmūpasaṁhitā
arousingrajanīyā—
theseime
indeedkho,
studentmāṇava,
fivepañca
sensual·strandkāmaguṇā.
with theseImehi
indeedkho,
studentmāṇava,
with fivepañcahi
sensual·strandkāmaguṇehi
brahminbrāhmaṇo
Pokkharasātipokkharasāti
Opamaññaopamañño
Subhagavanikasubhagavaniko
tiedgathito
infatuatedmucchito
attachedajjhopanno
not·drawback·seeinganādīnavadassāvī
not·escape·understandinganissaraṇapañño
around·enjoysparibhuñjati.
heSo
indeedvata
beyonduttari
human·dhammamanussadhammā
worthy·noble·knowledge-vision-distinctionalamariyañāṇadassanavisesaṁ
will knowñassati
orvā
will seedakkhati
orvā
directlysacchi
orvā
will do + not·thatkarissatīti—netaṁ
groundṭhānaṁ
existsvijjati.
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