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brahmins“Brāhmaṇā,
worthybho
Gotamagotama,
fivepañca
thingsdhamme
prescribepaññapenti
of meritpuññassa
for makingkiriyāya,
in the skillfulkusalassa
for succeedingārādhanāyā”ti.
those“Ye
thesete,
studentmāṇava,
brahminsbrāhmaṇā
fivepañca
thingsdhamme
prescribepaññapenti
of meritpuññassa
for makingkiriyāya,
in the skillfulkusalassa
for succeedingārādhanāya—
ifsace
youte
not troubleagaru—
pleasesādhu
youte
fivepañca
thingsdhamme
in thisimasmiṁ
assemblyparisati
explainbhāsassū”ti.
not“Na
indeedkho
to meme,
worthybho
Gotamagotama,
troublegaru
when such are sittingyatthassu
good fellowsbhavanto
orvā
seatednisinno
sorts like yourselvesbhavantarūpo
orvā”ti.
so“Tena
thenhi,
studentmāṇava,
explainbhāsassū”ti.
truth“Saccaṁ
indeedkho,
worthybho
Gotamagotama,
brahminsbrāhmaṇā
firstpaṭhamaṁ
thingdhammaṁ
prescribepaññapenti
of meritpuññassa
for makingkiriyāya,
in the skillfulkusalassa
for succeedingārādhanāya.
fervorTapaṁ
indeedkho,
worthybho
Gotamagotama,
brahminsbrāhmaṇā
seconddutiyaṁ
thingdhammaṁ
prescribepaññapenti
of meritpuññassa
for makingkiriyāya,
in the skillfulkusalassa
for succeedingārādhanāya.
chastityBrahmacariyaṁ
indeedkho,
worthybho
Gotamagotama,
brahminsbrāhmaṇā
thirdtatiyaṁ
thingdhammaṁ
prescribepaññapenti
of meritpuññassa
for makingkiriyāya,
in the skillfulkusalassa
for succeedingārādhanāya.
recitationAjjhenaṁ
indeedkho,
worthybho
Gotamagotama,
brahminsbrāhmaṇā
fourthcatutthaṁ
thingdhammaṁ
prescribepaññapenti
of meritpuññassa
for makingkiriyāya,
in the skillfulkusalassa
for succeedingārādhanāya.
generosityCāgaṁ
indeedkho,
worthybho
Gotamagotama,
brahminsbrāhmaṇā
fifthpañcamaṁ
thingdhammaṁ
prescribepaññapenti
of meritpuññassa
for makingkiriyāya,
in the skillfulkusalassa
for succeedingārādhanāya.
brahminsBrāhmaṇā,
worthybho
Gotamagotama,
theseime
fivepañca
thingsdhamme
prescribepaññapenti
of meritpuññassa
for makingkiriyāya,
in the skillfulkusalassa
for succeedingārādhanāyāti.
hereIdha
worthybhavaṁ
Gotamagotamo
what does he say?kimāhā”ti?
what“Kiṁ
wellpana,
studentmāṇava,
is thereatthi
anykoci
of the brahminsbrāhmaṇānaṁ
even a single brahminekabrāhmaṇopi
whoyo
says thusevamāha:
I‘ahaṁ
of theseimesaṁ
of the fivepañcannaṁ
of thingsdhammānaṁ
with my ownsayaṁ
with insightabhiññā
after realizingsacchikatvā
the resultvipākaṁ
I declarepavedemī’”ti?
no“No
indeed thishidaṁ,
worthybho
Gotamagotama”.
what“Kiṁ
thenpana,
studentmāṇava,
there isatthi
anykoci
of the brahminsbrāhmaṇānaṁ
even a single tutorekācariyopi
or a tutor's tutorekācariyapācariyopi
back toyāva
seventhsattamā
generation of tutorsācariyamahayugāpi
whoyo
says thusevamāha:
I‘ahaṁ
of theseimesaṁ
of the fivepañcannaṁ
of thingsdhammānaṁ
with my ownsayaṁ
insightabhiññā
having realizedsacchikatvā
resultvipākaṁ
I declarepavedemī’”ti?
no“No
indeedhidaṁ,
worthybho
Gotamagotama”.
what“Kiṁ
thenpana,
studentmāṇava,
whoyepi
thosete
of the brahminsbrāhmaṇānaṁ
ancientpubbakā
seersisayo
of hymnsmantānaṁ
authorskattāro
of hymnsmantānaṁ
propagatorspavattāro
whoseyesamidaṁ
nowetarahi
brahminsbrāhmaṇā
ancientporāṇaṁ
hymnalmantapadaṁ
sunggītaṁ
propagatedpavuttaṁ
compiledsamihitaṁ
continue to sing ittadanugāyanti
continue to chant ittadanubhāsanti
chant what was chantedbhāsitamanubhāsanti
teach what was taughtvācitamanuvācenti,
namelyseyyathidaṁ—aṭṭhako
Vāmakavāmako
Vāmadevavāmadevo
Vessāmittavessāmitto
Yamadaggiyamataggi
Aṅgīrasaaṅgīraso
Bhāradvājabhāradvājo
Vāseṭṭhavāseṭṭho
Kassapakassapo
Bhagubhagu,
they tootepi
did say thusevamāhaṁsu:
we‘mayaṁ
of theseimesaṁ
of the fivepañcannaṁ
of thingsdhammānaṁ
with our ownsayaṁ
insightabhiññā
having realizedsacchikatvā
resultvipākaṁ
we declarepavedemā’”ti?
no“No
indeedhidaṁ,
worthybho
Gotamagotama”.
so“Iti
it seemskira,
studentmāṇava,
there is notnatthi
anykoci
of the brahminsbrāhmaṇānaṁ
a single brahminekabrāhmaṇopi
whoyo
says thusevamāha:
I‘ahaṁ
of theseimesaṁ
of the fivepañcannaṁ
of thingsdhammānaṁ
with my ownsayaṁ
insightabhiññā
having realizedsacchikatvā
resultvipākaṁ
I declarepavedemī’ti;
there is notnatthi
anyonekoci
of brahminsbrāhmaṇānaṁ
even back one teacherekācariyopi
even back to teacher's teacherekācariyapācariyopi
as far asyāva
seventhsattamā
even back to seventh generation of teachersācariyamahayugāpi
whoyo
speaks thusevamāha:
I‘ahaṁ
of theseimesaṁ
of fivepañcannaṁ
of thingsdhammānaṁ
oneselfsayaṁ
with direct knowledgeabhiññā
having realizedsacchikatvā
resultvipākaṁ
I declarepavedemī’ti;
who evenyepi
thosete
of brahminsbrāhmaṇānaṁ
ancientpubbakā
seersisayo
of mantrasmantānaṁ
makerskattāro
of mantrasmantānaṁ
promulgatorspavattāro,
whose thisyesamidaṁ
nowetarahi
brahminsbrāhmaṇā
ancientporāṇaṁ
mantra textmantapadaṁ
sunggītaṁ
recitedpavuttaṁ
compiledsamihitaṁ,
they sing after ittadanugāyanti
they recite after ittadanubhāsanti
they recite what was spokenbhāsitamanubhāsanti
they recite what was taughtvācitamanuvācenti,
that is to say—Aṭṭhakaseyyathidaṁ—aṭṭhako
Vāmakavāmako
Vāmadevavāmadevo
Vessāmittavessāmitto
Yamataggiyamataggi
Aṅgīrasaaṅgīraso
Bhāradvājabhāradvājo
Vāseṭṭhavāseṭṭho
Kassapakassapo
Bhagubhagu.
they evenTepi
notna
spoke thusevamāhaṁsu:
we‘mayaṁ
of theseimesaṁ
of fivepañcannaṁ
of thingsdhammānaṁ
ourselvessayaṁ
with direct knowledgeabhiññā
having realizedsacchikatvā
resultvipākaṁ
we declarepavedemā’ti.
just asSeyyathāpi,
studentmāṇava,
a queue of blind menandhaveṇi
joined by a successionparamparāsaṁsattā
the first evenpurimopi
notna
seespassati
the middle one evenmajjhimopi
notna
seespassati
the last one evenpacchimopi
notna
seespassati;
just soevameva
indeedkho,
studentmāṇava,
comparable to a queue of blind menandhaveṇūpamaṁ
I thinkmaññe
of brahminsbrāhmaṇānaṁ
statementbhāsitaṁ
turns out to be—the first evensampajjati—purimopi
notna
seespassati
the middle one evenmajjhimopi
notna
seespassati
the last one evenpacchimopi
notna
seespassatī”ti.
thusEvaṁ
when saidvutte,
Subhasubho
young brahminmāṇavo
son of Todeyyatodeyyaputto
by the Blessed Onebhagavatā
with the simile of the queue of blind menandhaveṇūpamena
being addressedvuccamāno
angrykupito
upsetanattamano
the Blessed One himselfbhagavantaṁyeva
attackingkhuṁsento
the Blessed One himselfbhagavantaṁyeva
badmouthingvambhento
the Blessed One himselfbhagavantaṁyeva
sayingvadamāno:
ascetic“samaṇo
Gotamagotamo
worstedpāpito
will bebhavissatī”ti
to the Blessed Onebhagavantaṁ
said thisetadavoca:
brahmin“brāhmaṇo,
worthybho
Gotamagotama,
Pokkharasātipokkharasāti
Upamaññaopamañño
of the Subhaga Forestsubhagavaniko
says thusevamāha:
exactly so‘evameva
but here somepanidhekacce
ascetics and brahminssamaṇabrāhmaṇā
superhumanuttari
beyond the human statemanussadhammā
distinction in knowledge and vision worthy of the noble onesalamariyañāṇadassanavisesaṁ
they claimpaṭijānanti.
their statementTesamidaṁ
statementbhāsitaṁ
a joke indeedhassakaṁyeva
turns outsampajjati,
mere words indeednāmakaṁyeva
turns outsampajjati,
vacuous indeedrittakaṁyeva
turns outsampajjati,
hollow indeedtucchakaṁyeva
turns outsampajjati.
for howKathañhi
on earthnāma
being humanmanussabhūto
superhumanuttari
beyond the human statemanussadhammā
distinction in knowledge and vision worthy of the noble onesalamariyañāṇadassanavisesaṁ
will knowñassati
orvā
will seedakkhati
orvā
realizesacchi
orvā
will makekarissatīti—
that is notnetaṁ
possibleṭhānaṁ
is foundvijjatī’”ti?
what“Kiṁ
butpana,
studentmāṇava,
brahminbrāhmaṇo
Pokkharasātipokkharasāti
Opamaññaopamañño
Subhagavanikasubhagavaniko
of allsabbesaṁyeva
of ascetics and brahminssamaṇabrāhmaṇānaṁ
with mindcetasā
mindceto
having encompassedparicca
understandspajānātī”ti?
even of his own“Sakāyapi
indeedhi,
worthybho
Gotamagotama,
Puṇṇikāpuṇṇikāya
bonded maiddāsiyā
brahminbrāhmaṇo
Pokkharasātipokkharasāti
Opamaññaopamañño
Subhagavanikasubhagavaniko
with mindcetasā
mindceto
having encompassedparicca
notna
understandspajānāti,
howkuto
butpana
of allsabbesaṁyeva
of ascetics and brahminssamaṇabrāhmaṇānaṁ
with mindcetasā
mindceto
having encompassedparicca
will understandpajānissatī”ti?
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