Quarrels and Disputes · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral
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from where arisen“Kutopahūtā
quarrelskalahā
disputesvivādā,
lamentation and sorrowParidevasokā
together with stinginesssahamaccharā
andca;
conceit and arroganceMānātimānā
together with slandersahapesuṇā
andca,
where·arisenKutopahūtā
theyte
that·pleasetadiṅgha
tellbrūhi”.
“Where do quarrels and disputes come from? And lamentation and sorrow, and stinginess? What of conceit and arrogance, and slander too— tell me please, where do they come from?”
from what is dear“Piyappahūtā
quarrelskalahā
disputesvivādā,
lamentation·sorrowParidevasokā
with·stinginesssahamaccharā
andca;
conceit·arroganceMānātimānā
with·slandersahapesuṇā
andca,
stinginess·linkedMaccherayuttā
quarrelskalahā
disputesvivādā;
dispute·arisenVivādajātesu
andca
slanderpesuṇāni”.
“Quarrels and disputes come from what we hold dear, as do lamentation and sorrow, stinginess, conceit and arrogance. Quarrels and disputes are linked to stinginess, and when disputes have arisen there is slander.”
dear“Piyā
indeedsu
in the worldlokasmiṁ
from where as sourcekutonidānā,
whichYe
and alsocāpi
greedylobhā
they wandervicaranti
in the worldloke;
hopesĀsā
andca
aimsniṭṭhā
andca
from where as sourcekutonidānā,
whichYe
for the next worldsamparāyāya
of a mannarassa
they arehonti”.
“So where do things held dear in the world spring from? And the lusts that are loose in the world? Where spring the hopes and aims a man has for lives to come?”
spring from desire“Chandānidānāni
what is held dearpiyāni
in the worldloke,
whichYe
and alsocāpi
lustslobhā
are loosevicaranti
in the worldloke;
hopesĀsā
andca
aimsniṭṭhā
andca
spring from thatitonidānā,
whichYe
for lives to comesamparāyāya
of a mannarassa
arehonti”.
“What we hold dear in the world spring from desire, as do the lusts that are loose in the world. From there spring the hopes and aims a man has for lives to come.”
desire“Chando
indeednu
in the worldlokasmiṁ
where does it spring fromkutonidāno,
evaluationsVinicchayā
and toocāpi
where do they come fromkutopahūtā;
angerKodho
lying + and·andmosavajjañca
indecisionkathaṅkathā
andca,
whichYe
or indeedvāpi
thingsdhammā
by the asceticsamaṇena
spokenvuttā”.
“So where does desire in the world spring from? And evaluations, too, where do they come from? And anger, lies, and indecision, and other things spoken of by the Ascetic?”
“pleasure“Sātaṁ
pain, they sayasātanti
what they callyamāhu
in the world,loke,
based on that,Tamūpanissāya
comes aboutpahoti
desire;chando;
in formsRūpesu
having seendisvā
manifestationvibhavaṁ
vanishing·andbhavañca,
evaluationVinicchayaṁ
makeskubbati
a personagejantu
in the world.loke.
“What they call pleasure and pain in the world— based on that, desire comes about. Seeing the manifestation and vanishing of forms, a personage makes evaluations in the world.
angerKodho
lying + andmosavajjañca
indecisionkathaṅkathā
andca,
these·tooEtepi
thingsdhammā
pair·justdvayameva
beingsante;
one who is indecisiveKathaṅkathī
in the path of knowledgeñāṇapathāya
should trainsikkhe,
having knownÑatvā
spokenpavuttā
by the asceticsamaṇena
thingsdhammā”.
Anger, lies, and indecision— these things are, too, when that pair is present. One who is indecisive should train in the path of knowledge; it is from knowledge that the Ascetic speaks of these things.”
pleasure“Sātaṁ
not·pleasure·andasātañca
from what sourcekutonidānā,
when whatKismiṁ
not·beingasante
notna
they occurbhavanti
these thingshete;
apart·becomingVibhavaṁ
vanishing·and alsobhavañcāpi
on this topicyametamatthaṁ,
thisEtaṁ
to meme
forth·speakpabrūhi
where they spring fromyatonidānaṁ”.
“Where do pleasure and pain spring from? When what is absent do these things not occur? And also, on the topic of manifesting and vanishing— tell me where they spring from.”
contact-originated“Phassanidānaṁ
pleasuresātaṁ
painasātaṁ,
when contactPhasse
not·beingasante
notna
they occurbhavanti
thesehete;
apart·becomingVibhavaṁ
become·and alsobhavañcāpi
which is this matteryametamatthaṁ,
thisEtaṁ
to youte
forth·speakpabrūmi
they spring from thereitonidānaṁ”.
“Pleasure and pain spring from contact; when contact is absent they do not occur. And on the topic of manifesting and vanishing— I tell you they spring from there.”
contact“Phasso
thennu
in the worldlokasmi
where·sourcekutonidāno,
possessionsPariggahā
and alsocāpi
where·originatedkutopahūtā;
when what is absentKismiṁ
not·existingasante
nona
possessiveness + bemamattamatthi,
when what vanishesKismiṁ
apart·becomevibhūte
notna
strikephusanti
contactsphassā”.
“So where does contact in the world spring from? And possessions, too, where do they come from? When what is absent is there no possessiveness? When what vanishes do contacts not strike?”
and name“Nāmañca
form·andrūpañca
having depended onpaṭicca
contactphasso,
wishing·sourcesIcchānidānāni
possessionspariggahāni;
when wishing is absentIcchāyasantyā
notna
there is possessivenessmamattamatthi,
when formRūpe
vanishesvibhūte
notna
strikephusanti
contactsphassā”.
“Name and form cause contact; possessions spring from wishing; when wishing is absent there is no possessiveness; when form vanishes, contacts don’t strike.”
how?“Kathaṁ
together·gosametassa
vanishesvibhoti
formrūpaṁ,
happinessSukhaṁ
and suffering toodukhañcāpi
how?kathaṁ
vanishesvibhoti;
thisEtaṁ
to meme
forth·speakpabrūhi
howyathā
vanishesvibhoti,
thatTaṁ
we ought to knowjāniyāmāti
myme
mindmano
wasahu”.
“Form vanishes for one proceeding how? And how do happiness and suffering vanish? Tell me how they vanish; I think we ought to know these things.”
not“Na
one of normal perceptionsaññasaññī
norna
one of distorted perceptionvisaññasaññī,
and notNopi
not·perceivingasaññī
norna
one perceiving what has vanishedvibhūtasaññī;
thusEvaṁ
along·proceedsametassa
away·becomevibhoti
formrūpaṁ,
perception·originatingSaññānidānā
forhi
judgments due to proliferationpapañcasaṅkhā”.
“Without normal perception or distorted perception; not lacking perception, nor perceiving what has vanished. Form vanishes for one proceeding thus; for judgments due to proliferation spring from perception.”
whatever“Yaṁ
thattaṁ
past·askapucchimha
past·explainakittayī
to meno,
anotherAññaṁ
thattaṁ
we askpucchāma
please nowtadiṅgha
tellbrūhi;
the highest extentEttāvataggaṁ
indeednu
they sayvadanti
someheke,
of the spiritYakkhassa
puritysuddhiṁ
hereidha
astute folkpaṇḍitāse;
orUdāhu
something else alsoaññampi
they sayvadanti
from hereetto”.
“Whatever I asked you have explained to me. I ask you once more, please tell me this: Do some astute folk here say that this is the highest extent of purity of the spirit? Or do they say it is something else?”
the highest extent“Ettāvataggampi
they sayvadanti
someheke,
of the spiritYakkhassa
puritysuddhiṁ
hereidha
astute folkpaṇḍitāse;
of themTesaṁ
but somepaneke
an occasionsamayaṁ
they speak ofvadanti,
not·residueAnupādisese
claiming to be expertskusalā
speakingvadānā.
“Some astute folk do say that this is the highest extent of purity of the spirit. But some of them, claiming to be experts, speak of an occasion when there is no residue.
theseEte
andca
having knownñatvā
on·dependentupanissitāti,
having knownÑatvā
sagemunī
supportsnissaye
heso
inquiringvimaṁsī;
having knownÑatvā
freedvimutto
notna
enters disputevivādameti,
to life after lifeBhavābhavāya
notna
together·gosameti
the attentive onedhīro”ti.
quarrel·dispute·discourseKalahavivādasuttaṁ
eleventhekādasamaṁ.
Knowing that these states are dependent, and knowing what they depend on, the inquiring sage, having understood, is freed, and enters no dispute. The attentive do not proceed to life after life.”
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