Quarrels and Disputes · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral
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“Kutopahūtā
kalahā
vivādā,
Paridevasokā
sahamaccharā
ca;
Mānātimānā
sahapesuṇā
ca,
Kutopahūtā
te
tadiṅgha
brūhi”.
“Where do quarrels and disputes come from? And lamentation and sorrow, and stinginess? What of conceit and arrogance, and slander too— tell me please, where do they come from?”
“Piyappahūtā
kalahā
vivādā,
Paridevasokā
sahamaccharā
ca;
Mānātimānā
sahapesuṇā
ca,
Maccherayuttā
kalahā
vivādā;
Vivādajātesu
ca
pesuṇāni”.
“Quarrels and disputes come from what we hold dear, as do lamentation and sorrow, stinginess, conceit and arrogance. Quarrels and disputes are linked to stinginess, and when disputes have arisen there is slander.”
“Piyā
su
lokasmiṁ
kutonidānā,
Ye
cāpi
lobhā
vicaranti
loke;
Āsā
ca
niṭṭhā
ca
kutonidānā,
Ye
samparāyāya
narassa
honti”.
“So where do things held dear in the world spring from? And the lusts that are loose in the world? Where spring the hopes and aims a man has for lives to come?”
“Chandānidānāni
piyāni
loke,
Ye
cāpi
lobhā
vicaranti
loke;
Āsā
ca
niṭṭhā
ca
itonidānā,
Ye
samparāyāya
narassa
honti”.
“What we hold dear in the world spring from desire, as do the lusts that are loose in the world. From there spring the hopes and aims a man has for lives to come.”
“Chando
nu
lokasmiṁ
kutonidāno,
Vinicchayā
cāpi
kutopahūtā;
Kodho
mosavajjañca
kathaṅkathā
ca,
Ye
vāpi
dhammā
samaṇena
vuttā”.
“So where does desire in the world spring from? And evaluations, too, where do they come from? And anger, lies, and indecision, and other things spoken of by the Ascetic?”
“Sātaṁ
asātanti
yamāhu
loke,
Tamūpanissāya
pahoti
chando;
Rūpesu
disvā
vibhavaṁ
bhavañca,
Vinicchayaṁ
kubbati
jantu
loke.
“What they call pleasure and pain in the world— based on that, desire comes about. Seeing the manifestation and vanishing of forms, a personage makes evaluations in the world.
Kodho
mosavajjañca
kathaṅkathā
ca,
Etepi
dhammā
dvayameva
sante;
Kathaṅkathī
ñāṇapathāya
sikkhe,
Ñatvā
pavuttā
samaṇena
dhammā”.
Anger, lies, and indecision— these things are, too, when that pair is present. One who is indecisive should train in the path of knowledge; it is from knowledge that the Ascetic speaks of these things.”
“Sātaṁ
asātañca
kutonidānā,
Kismiṁ
asante
na
bhavanti
hete;
Vibhavaṁ
bhavañcāpi
yametamatthaṁ,
Etaṁ
me
pabrūhi
yatonidānaṁ”.
“Where do pleasure and pain spring from? When what is absent do these things not occur? And also, on the topic of manifesting and vanishing— tell me where they spring from.”
“Phassanidānaṁ
sātaṁ
asātaṁ,
Phasse
asante
na
bhavanti
hete;
Vibhavaṁ
bhavañcāpi
yametamatthaṁ,
Etaṁ
te
pabrūmi
itonidānaṁ”.
“Pleasure and pain spring from contact; when contact is absent they do not occur. And on the topic of manifesting and vanishing— I tell you they spring from there.”
“Phasso
nu
lokasmi
kutonidāno,
Pariggahā
cāpi
kutopahūtā;
Kismiṁ
asante
na
mamattamatthi,
Kismiṁ
vibhūte
na
phusanti
phassā”.
“So where does contact in the world spring from? And possessions, too, where do they come from? When what is absent is there no possessiveness? When what vanishes do contacts not strike?”
“Nāmañca
rūpañca
paṭicca
phasso,
Icchānidānāni
pariggahāni;
Icchāyasantyā
na
mamattamatthi,
Rūpe
vibhūte
na
phusanti
phassā”.
“Name and form cause contact; possessions spring from wishing; when wishing is absent there is no possessiveness; when form vanishes, contacts don’t strike.”
“Kathaṁ
sametassa
vibhoti
rūpaṁ,
Sukhaṁ
dukhañcāpi
kathaṁ
vibhoti;
Etaṁ
me
pabrūhi
yathā
vibhoti,
Taṁ
jāniyāmāti
me
mano
ahu”.
“Form vanishes for one proceeding how? And how do happiness and suffering vanish? Tell me how they vanish; I think we ought to know these things.”
“Na
saññasaññī
na
visaññasaññī,
Nopi
asaññī
na
vibhūtasaññī;
Evaṁ
sametassa
vibhoti
rūpaṁ,
Saññānidānā
hi
papañcasaṅkhā”.
“Without normal perception or distorted perception; not lacking perception, nor perceiving what has vanished. Form vanishes for one proceeding thus; for judgments due to proliferation spring from perception.”
“Yaṁ
taṁ
apucchimha
akittayī
no,
Aññaṁ
taṁ
pucchāma
tadiṅgha
brūhi;
Ettāvataggaṁ
nu
vadanti
heke,
Yakkhassa
suddhiṁ
idha
paṇḍitāse;
Udāhu
aññampi
vadanti
etto”.
“Whatever I asked you have explained to me. I ask you once more, please tell me this: Do some astute folk here say that this is the highest extent of purity of the spirit? Or do they say it is something else?”
“Ettāvataggampi
vadanti
heke,
Yakkhassa
suddhiṁ
idha
paṇḍitāse;
Tesaṁ
paneke
samayaṁ
vadanti,
Anupādisese
kusalā
vadānā.
“Some astute folk do say that this is the highest extent of purity of the spirit. But some of them, claiming to be experts, speak of an occasion when there is no residue.
Ete
ca
ñatvā
upanissitāti,
Ñatvā
munī
nissaye
so
vimaṁsī;
Ñatvā
vimutto
na
vivādameti,
Bhavābhavāya
na
sameti
dhīro”ti.
Kalahavivādasuttaṁ
ekādasamaṁ.
Knowing that these states are dependent, and knowing what they depend on, the inquiring sage, having understood, is freed, and enters no dispute. The attentive do not proceed to life after life.”
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