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Majjhima Nikāya 100

Saṅgāravasutta

With Saṅgārava · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral

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thenAtha indeed + Ikhvāhaṁ, Bhāradvājabhāradvāja, whereyena Uddakaudako Rāma·sonrāmaputto there + approachedtenupasaṅkamiṁ; having approachedupasaṅkamitvā Uddakaudakaṁ Rāma·sonrāmaputtaṁ this·saidetadavocaṁ:
to what extent‘kittāvatā indeedno, friendāvuso, Rāmarāmo thisimaṁ teachingdhammaṁ oneselfsayaṁ fully·knowabhiññā with insight·having donesacchikatvā up to·having attainedupasampajja I dwell'dviharāmīti he declared'd?pavedesī’ti?
thusEvaṁ when saidvutte, Bhāradvājabhāradvāja, Uddakaudako Rāma·sonrāmaputto neither·perception·nor non-perception·dimensionnevasaññānāsaññāyatanaṁ declaredpavedesi.
of thatTassa to memayhaṁ, Bhāradvājabhāradvāja, this·occurredetadahosi:
not‘na indeedkho just Rāmarāmasseva hadahosi faithsaddhā, to me + also·there ismayhampatthi faithsaddhā;
notna indeedkho just Rāmarāmasseva hadahosi energyvīriyaṁ …pe……pe…
mindfulnesssati ……
immersionsamādhi ……
wisdompaññā, to me + also·there ismayhampatthi wisdompaññā.
why don't + IYannūnāhaṁ whichyaṁ teachingdhammaṁ Rāmarāmo oneselfsayaṁ fully·knowabhiññā with insight·having donesacchikatvā up to·having attainedupasampajja I dwell'dviharāmīti declaredpavedesi of thattassa of the teachingdhammassa with insight·for the doingsacchikiriyāya I should strive'd.padaheyyan’ti.
thatSo indeedkho Iahaṁ, Bhāradvājabhāradvāja, very quicklynacirasseva quickly + indeedkhippameva thattaṁ teachingdhammaṁ oneselfsayaṁ fully·knowabhiññā with insight·having donesacchikatvā up to·having attainedupasampajja I livedvihāsiṁ.

thenAtha indeed + Ikhvāhaṁ, Bhāradvājabhāradvāja, whereyena Uddakaudako Rāma·sonrāmaputto there + I approachedtenupasaṅkamiṁ; up to·go·havingupasaṅkamitvā Uddakaudakaṁ Rāma·sonrāmaputtaṁ this + I saidetadavocaṁ:
up to this point‘ettāvatā for usno, reverendāvuso, Rāmarāmo thisimaṁ teachingdhammaṁ with his own insightsayaṁ higher·knowabhiññā with eyes·madesacchikatvā up to·attainedupasampajja had he declaredpavedesī’ti?
up to this point‘Ettāvatā indeedkho, reverendāvuso, Rāmarāmo thisimaṁ teachingdhammaṁ with his own insightsayaṁ higher·knowabhiññā with eyes·madesacchikatvā up to·attainedupasampajja he declaredpavedesī’ti.
I·too‘Ahampi indeedkho, reverendāvuso, up to this pointettāvatā thisimaṁ teachingdhammaṁ with my own insightsayaṁ higher·knowabhiññā with eyes·madesacchikatvā up to·attainedupasampajja I liveviharāmī’ti.
fortunate‘Lābhā for usno, reverendāvuso, well·gainedsuladdhaṁ for usno, reverendāvuso,
whoye wemayaṁ venerableāyasmantaṁ suchtādisaṁ together·spiritual companionsabrahmacāriṁ we seepassāma.
thusIti whichyaṁ teachingdhammaṁ Rāmarāmo with his own insightsayaṁ higher·knowabhiññā with eyes·madesacchikatvā up to·attainedupasampajja he declaredpavedesi thattaṁ youtvaṁ teachingdhammaṁ with your own insightsayaṁ higher·knowabhiññā with eyes·madesacchikatvā up to·attainedupasampajja you dwellviharasi;
whichyaṁ youtvaṁ teachingdhammaṁ with your own insightsayaṁ higher·knowabhiññā with eyes·madesacchikatvā up to·attainedupasampajja you dwellviharasi thattaṁ teachingdhammaṁ Rāmarāmo with his own insightsayaṁ higher·knowabhiññā with eyes·madesacchikatvā up to·attainedupasampajja he declaredpavedesi.

thusIti whicheveryaṁ teachingdhammaṁ Rāmarāmo directly·knowabhiññāsi thattaṁ youtvaṁ teachingdhammaṁ know,jānāsi, whicheveryaṁ youtvaṁ teachingdhammaṁ knowjānāsi thattaṁ teachingdhammaṁ Rāmarāmo directly·knowabhiññāsi.
thusIti asyādiso Rāmarāmo wasahosi suchtādiso you,tuvaṁ, asyādiso youtuvaṁ suchtādiso Rāmarāmo was.ahosi.
comeEhi now,dāni, reverend,āvuso, youtuvaṁ thisimaṁ communitygaṇaṁ should lead.'pariharā’ti.
thusIti indeed,kho, Bhāradvāja,bhāradvāja, Uddakaudako Rāma·sonrāmaputto co·spiritual lifesabrahmacārī myme beingsamāno in the position of a tutorācariyaṭṭhāne memaṁ placed,ṭhapesi, with highuḷārāya andca memaṁ praisepūjāya honored.pūjesi.
of thatTassa of me,mayhaṁ, Bhāradvāja,bhāradvāja, this occurred:etadahosi:
'this‘nāyaṁ teachingdhammo to disillusionmentnibbidāya notna to dispassionvirāgāya notna to cessationnirodhāya notna to peaceupasamāya notna to insightabhiññāya notna to awakeningsambodhāya notna to extinguishmentnibbānāya together·turnsaṁvattati, as far·onlyyāvadeva rebirth in the dimension of neither perception nor non-perception.'nevasaññānāsaññāyatanūpapattiyā’ti.
thatSo indeedkho I,ahaṁ, Bhāradvāja,bhāradvāja, thattaṁ teachingdhammaṁ not·satisfyanalaṅkaritvā from thattasmā teachingdhammā out·wearynibbijja away·goapakkamiṁ.

thatSo indeedkho Iahaṁ, Bhāradvājabhāradvāja, what·skillful·seekerkiṅkusalagavesī supremeanuttaraṁ peace·sublime·statesantivarapadaṁ around·seekingpariyesamāno in the Magadhan landsmagadhesu along·successiveanupubbena wanderingcārikaṁ travelingcaramāno whereyena Uruvelāuruvelā Senā·townsenānigamo I arrived attadavasariṁ.
there I sawTatthaddasaṁ delightfulramaṇīyaṁ parkbhūmibhāgaṁ, lovely + andpāsādikañca grovevanasaṇḍaṁ, river + andnadiñca flowingsandantiṁ cleansetakaṁ well·bankedsupatitthaṁ charmingramaṇīyaṁ, nearbysamantā andca village to resort to for almsgocaragāmaṁ.
to meTassa to memayhaṁ, Bhāradvājabhāradvāja, this occurredetadahosi:
delightful‘ramaṇīyo trulyvata sirbho parkbhūmibhāgo, lovelypāsādiko andca grovevanasaṇḍo, rivernadī andca flowssandati cleansetakā well·bankedsupatitthā charmingramaṇīyā, nearbysamantā andca village to resort to for almsgocaragāmo.
enoughAlaṁ truly thisvatidaṁ clan·sonkulaputtassa wanting to strivepadhānatthikassa for strivingpadhānāyā’ti.
thatSo indeedkho Iahaṁ, Bhāradvājabhāradvāja, right theretattheva I sat downnisīdiṁ:
this is enough‘alamidaṁ for strivingpadhānāyā’ti.

and·thenApissu me,maṁ, Bhāradvāja,bhāradvāja, threetisso similesupamā occurredpaṭibhaṁsu not·wondrousanacchariyā beforepubbe unheard·previousassutapubbā.
supposeSeyyathāpi, Bhāradvāja,bhāradvāja, greenallaṁ logkaṭṭhaṁ with·sapsasnehaṁ in waterudake lyingnikkhittaṁ.
thenAtha a personpuriso comes alongāgaccheyya a drill-stickuttarāraṇiṁ takingādāya:
fire‘aggiṁ I will lightabhinibbattessāmi, heattejo I will producepātukarissāmī’ti.
thatTaṁ whatkiṁ do you thinkmaññasi, Bhāradvāja,bhāradvāja,
indeedapi nownu thatso personpuriso thatamuṁ greenallaṁ logkaṭṭhaṁ with·sapsasnehaṁ in waterudake lyingnikkhittaṁ a drill-stickuttarāraṇiṁ takingādāya drillingabhimanthento fireaggiṁ could lightabhinibbatteyya, heattejo could producepātukareyyā”ti?
no“No indeedhidaṁ, worthybho Gotama.gotama.
thatTaṁ whykissa is thathetu?
becauseAduñhi, worthybho Gotama,gotama, greenallaṁ logkaṭṭhaṁ with·sapsasnehaṁ, and ittañca thenpana in waterudake lyingnikkhittaṁ;
eventuallyyāvadeva andca thenpana thatso personpuriso wearinesskilamathassa frustrationvighātassa will getbhāgī will beassā”ti.

thus·emphatic·just“Evameva indeedkho, Bhāradvājabhāradvāja, whoye forhi anykeci asceticssamaṇā orvā brahminsbrāhmaṇā orvā in bodykāyena and·alsoceva in mindcittena andca from sensual pleasureskāmehi not·withdrawnavūpakaṭṭhā they liveviharanti, thatyo andca theirnesaṁ in sensual pleasureskāmesu sensual-pleasure·desirekāmacchando sensual-pleasure·affectionkāmasneho sensual-pleasure·infatuationkāmamucchā sensual-pleasure·thirstkāmapipāsā sensual-pleasure·passionkāmapariḷāho thatso andca internallyajjhattaṁ notna well·forth·given-upsuppahīno ishoti notna well stilledsuppaṭippassaddho, due to exertionopakkamikā if·and·evencepi thesete sirsbhonto ascetic·brahminsamaṇabrāhmaṇā painfuldukkhā sharptibbā severekharā acutekaṭukā feelingsvedanā they experiencevedayanti, incapable·indeedabhabbāva theyte of knowledgeñāṇāya of visiondassanāya supremeanuttarāya of awakeningsambodhāya. notNo if·and·evencepi thesete sirsbhonto ascetic·brahminsamaṇabrāhmaṇā due to exertionopakkamikā painfuldukkhā sharptibbā severekharā acutekaṭukā feelingsvedanā they experiencevedayanti incapable·indeedabhabbāva theyte of knowledgeñāṇāya of visiondassanāya supremeanuttarāya of awakeningsambodhāya.
thisAyaṁ indeedkho to memaṁ, Bhāradvājabhāradvāja, firstpaṭhamā exampleupamā occurredpaṭibhāsi uninspiredanacchariyā previouslypubbe never heard beforeassutapubbā.

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