With Saṅgārava · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral
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thusEvaṁ
by meme
heardsutaṁ—
oneekaṁ
timesamayaṁ
the Blessed Onebhagavā
among the Kosalanskosalesu
walking tourcārikaṁ
wanderscarati
with a largemahatā
with a community of bhikkhusbhikkhusaṅghena
together withsaddhiṁ.
So I have heard. At one time the Buddha was wandering in the land of the Kosalans together with a large Saṅgha of mendicants.
at thatTena
indeedkho
nowpana
at the timesamayena
Dhanañjānīdhanañjānī
namednāma
a brahmin ladybrāhmaṇī
at Caṇḍalakappacañcalikappe
against·dwellpaṭivasati
devotedabhippasannā
to the Buddhabuddhe
andca
to the teachingdhamme
andca
to the Saṅghasaṅghe
and.ca.
thenAtha
indeedkho
Dhanañjānīdhanañjānī
the brahmin ladybrāhmaṇī
having trippedupakkhalitvā
three timestikkhattuṁ
a heartfelt sentimentudānaṁ
expressedudānesi:
homage“Namo
to himtassa
the blessed onebhagavato
the perfected onearahato
the fully awakened Buddha.sammāsambuddhassa.
homageNamo
to himtassa
the blessed onebhagavato
the perfected onearahato
the fully awakened Buddha.sammāsambuddhassa.
homageNamo
to himtassa
the blessed onebhagavato
the perfected onearahato
the fully awakened Buddha."sammāsambuddhassā”ti.
Now at that time a brahmin lady named Dhanañjānī was residing at Caṇḍalakappa. She was devoted to the Buddha, the teaching, and the Saṅgha. Once, she tripped and expressed this heartfelt sentiment three times: “Homage to him, the blessed one, the perfected one, the fully awakened Buddha! Homage to him, the blessed one, the perfected one, the fully awakened Buddha! Homage to him, the blessed one, the perfected one, the fully awakened Buddha!”
by thatTena
indeedkho
thenpana
at the timesamayena
Saṅgāravasaṅgāravo
namednāma
the studentmāṇavo
in Cañcalikappacañcalikappe
against·dwellpaṭivasati
of the threetiṇṇaṁ
Vedasvedānaṁ
far shore·gopāragū
with·vocabulary + ritual performancesanighaṇḍukeṭubhānaṁ
phonology + classificationsākkharappabhedānaṁ
testament + fifthitihāsapañcamānaṁ,
word-by-word knowerpadako,
grammarianveyyākaraṇo,
cosmology·great man + markslokāyatamahāpurisalakkhaṇesu
not·deficientanavayo.
heardAssosi
indeedkho
Saṅgāravasaṅgāravo
the studentmāṇavo
Dhanañjānīdhanañjāniyā
the brahmin ladybrāhmaṇiyā
thusevaṁ
speechvācaṁ
while speakingbhāsamānāya.
having heardSutvā
to Dhanañjānīdhanañjāniṁ
the brahmin ladybrāhmaṇiṁ
this + saidetadavoca:
a disgrace indeed“avabhūtāva
thisayaṁ
Dhanañjānīdhanañjānī
brahmin ladybrāhmaṇī,
a discredit indeedparabhūtāva
thisayaṁ
Dhanañjānīdhanañjānī
brahmin ladybrāhmaṇī,
while being foundvijjamānānaṁ
three + proficienttevijjānaṁ
of brahminsbrāhmaṇānaṁ,
butatha
andca
thenpana
of thattassa
shavelingmuṇḍakassa
fake asceticsamaṇakassa
praisevaṇṇaṁ
she will speakbhāsissatī”ti.
not“Na
indeedhi
thenpana
youtvaṁ,
deartāta
good-faced onebhadramukha,
of thattassa
Blessed Onebhagavato
ethics + wisdomsīlapaññāṇaṁ
you knowjānāsi.
ifSace
youtvaṁ,
deartāta
good-faced onebhadramukha,
of thattassa
Blessed Onebhagavato
ethics + wisdomsīlapaññāṇaṁ
you might knowjāneyyāsi,
notna
youtvaṁ,
deartāta
good-faced onebhadramukha,
thattaṁ
Blessed Onebhagavantaṁ
to be abusedakkositabbaṁ
to be insultedparibhāsitabbaṁ
you would thinkmaññeyyāsī”ti.
by that“Tena
thenhi,
madambhoti,
whenyadā
the asceticsamaṇo
Gotamagotamo
Cañcalikappacañcalikappaṁ
arrivedanuppatto
ishoti
thenatha
to meme
you should informāroceyyāsī”ti.
yes“Evaṁ,
good-faced onebhadramukhā”ti
indeedkho
Dhanañjānīdhanañjānī
the brahmin ladybrāhmaṇī
to Saṅgāravasaṅgāravassa
the studentmāṇavassa
repliedpaccassosi.
Now at that time the student Saṅgārava was residing in Caṇḍalakappa. He was young, newly tonsured; he was sixteen years old. He had mastered the three Vedas, together with their vocabularies and ritual performance, their phonology and word classification, and the testaments as fifth. He knew them word-by-word, and their grammar. He was well versed in cosmology and the marks of a great man. Hearing Dhanañjānī’s exclamation, he said to her, “The brahmin lady Dhanañjānī is a disgrace! Though brahmins proficient in the three Vedas are found, she will praise that shaveling, that fake ascetic.” “But dearest boy, you don’t understand the Buddha’s ethics and wisdom. If you did, you’d never think of abusing or insulting him.” “Well then, ma’am, let me know when the Buddha arrives in Caṇḍalakappa.” “I will, dearest,” she replied.
thenAtha
indeedkho
the Blessed Onebhagavā
among the Kosalanskosalesu
stage by stageanupubbena
wanderingcārikaṁ
travelingcaramāno
whereyena
Caṇḍalakappacañcalikappaṁ
it·down·gotadavasari.
thereTatra
indeedsudaṁ
the Blessed Onebhagavā
at Caṇḍalakappacañcalikappe
he dwellsviharati
of the Todeyyastodeyyānaṁ
of the brahminsbrāhmaṇānaṁ
in the mango groveambavane.
And then the Buddha, traveling stage by stage in the Kosalan lands, arrived at Caṇḍalakappa, where he stayed in the mango grove of the Todeyya brahmins.
heardAssosi
indeedkho
Dhanañjānīdhanañjānī
brahmin lady:brāhmaṇī:
“the Blessed One“bhagavā
reportedlykira
to Cañcalikappacañcalikappaṁ
along·reachanuppatto,
at Cañcalikappacañcalikappe
apart·dwellviharati
of the Todeyyastodeyyānaṁ
of the brahminsbrāhmaṇānaṁ
mango·groveambavane”ti.
ThenAtha
indeedkho
Dhanañjānīdhanañjānī
the brahmin ladybrāhmaṇī
to whereyena
Saṅgāravasaṅgāravo
the studentmāṇavo
there·approachedtenupasaṅkami;
near·goupasaṅkamitvā
Saṅgāravasaṅgāravaṁ
the studentmāṇavaṁ
this·saidetadavoca:
“this,“ayaṁ,
deartāta
auspicious·facebhadramukha,
thatso
Blessed Onebhagavā
to Cañcalikappacañcalikappaṁ
along·reachanuppatto,
at Cañcalikappacañcalikappe
apart·dwellviharati
of the Todeyyastodeyyānaṁ
of the brahminsbrāhmaṇānaṁ
mango·groveambavane.
Now whenYassadāni,
deartāta
auspicious·facebhadramukha,
the timekālaṁ
you think fit.”maññasī”ti.
“Yes,“Evaṁ,
ma’am·quotation markerbho”ti
indeedkho
Saṅgāravasaṅgāravo
the studentmāṇavo
to Dhanañjānīdhanañjāniyā
the brahmin ladybrāhmaṇiyā
back·hearpaṭissutvā
to whereyena
the Blessed Onebhagavā
there·approachedtenupasaṅkami;
near·goupasaṅkamitvā
with the Blessed Onebhagavatā
togethersaddhiṁ
together·rejoicesammodi.
GreetingSammodanīyaṁ
conversationkathaṁ
courteoussāraṇīyaṁ
through·completevītisāretvā
to one sideekamantaṁ
down·sitnisīdi.
To one sideEkamantaṁ
seatednisinno
indeedkho
Saṅgāravasaṅgāravo
the studentmāṇavo
to the Blessed Onebhagavantaṁ
this·saidetadavoca:
Dhanañjānī heard that he had arrived. So she went to Saṅgārava and told him, adding, “Please, dearest boy, go at your convenience.” “Yes, ma’am,” replied Saṅgārava. He went to the Buddha and exchanged greetings with him. When the greetings and polite conversation were over, he sat down to one side and said to the Buddha:
there are“Santi
indeedkho,
worthybho
Gotamagotama,
someeke
ascetic·brahminsamaṇabrāhmaṇā
having attained perfection and consummation of insight in this lifediṭṭhadhammābhiññāvosānapāramippattā,
fundamentals·spiritual·lifeādibrahmacariyaṁ
they claimpaṭijānanti.
regarding theseTatra,
worthybho
Gotamagotama,
whoye
thosete
ascetic·brahminsamaṇabrāhmaṇā
having attained perfection and consummation of insight in this lifediṭṭhadhammābhiññāvosānapāramippattā,
fundamentals·spiritual·lifeādibrahmacariyaṁ
they claimpaṭijānanti,
of thosetesaṁ
the worthybhavaṁ
Gotamagotamo
which·quotation markerkatamo”ti?
“Worthy Gotama, there are some ascetics and brahmins who claim to have mastered the fundamentals of the spiritual life having attained perfection and consummation of insight in this life. Where do you stand regarding these?”
of those attained to perfection and consummation of insight in this life“Diṭṭhadhammābhiññāvosānapāramippattānaṁ,
fundamentals·spiritual lifeādibrahmacariyaṁ
claimingpaṭijānantānampi
indeedkho
Iahaṁ,
Bhāradvājabhāradvāja,
disparityvemattaṁ
I sayvadāmi.
there areSanti,
Bhāradvājabhāradvāja,
someeke
ascetic·brahminsamaṇabrāhmaṇā
oral transmittersanussavikā.
theyTe
through oral transmissionanussavena
attained to perfection and consummation of insight in this lifediṭṭhadhammābhiññāvosānapāramippattā,
fundamentals·spiritual lifeādibrahmacariyaṁ
they claimpaṭijānanti;
just asseyyathāpi
brahminsbrāhmaṇā
three·Vedatevijjā.
there areSanti
butpana,
Bhāradvājabhāradvāja,
someeke
ascetic·brahminsamaṇabrāhmaṇā
solelykevalaṁ
faith·meresaddhāmattakena
attained to perfection and consummation of insight in this lifediṭṭhadhammābhiññāvosānapāramippattā,
fundamentals·spiritual lifeādibrahmacariyaṁ
they claimpaṭijānanti;
just asseyyathāpi
those who rely on logictakkī
those who rely on inquiryvīmaṁsī.
there areSanti,
Bhāradvājabhāradvāja,
someeke
ascetic·brahminsamaṇabrāhmaṇā
beforepubbe
not·learned beforeananussutesu
in teachingsdhammesu
themselvessāmaṁyeva
the principledhammaṁ
directly·knownabhiññāya
attained to perfection and consummation of insight in this lifediṭṭhadhammābhiññāvosānapāramippattā,
fundamentals·spiritual lifeādibrahmacariyaṁ
they claimpaṭijānanti.
among themTatra,
Bhāradvājabhāradvāja,
whoye
thosete
ascetic·brahminsamaṇabrāhmaṇā
beforepubbe
not·learned beforeananussutesu
in teachingsdhammesu
themselvessāmaṁyeva
the principledhammaṁ
directly·knownabhiññāya
attained to perfection and consummation of insight in this lifediṭṭhadhammābhiññāvosānapāramippattā,
fundamentals·spiritual lifeādibrahmacariyaṁ
they claimpaṭijānanti,
I am one of thosetesāhamasmi.
“I say there is a disparity among those who claim to have mastered the fundamentals of the spiritual life having attained perfection and consummation of insight in this life. There are some ascetics and brahmins who are oral transmitters. Through oral transmission they claim to have mastered the fundamentals of the spiritual life. For example, the brahmins who are proficient in the three Vedas. There are some ascetics and brahmins who solely by mere faith claim to have mastered the fundamentals of the spiritual life. For example, those who rely on logic and inquiry. There are some ascetics and brahmins who, having directly known for themselves the principle regarding teachings not learned before from another, claim to have mastered the fundamentals of the spiritual life. I am one of those.
and here by this methodTadamināpetaṁ, Bhāradvājabhāradvāja, by waypariyāyena to be understoodveditabbaṁ, asyathā whoye thosete ascetics and brahminssamaṇabrāhmaṇā previouslypubbe in unheardananussutesu teachingsdhammesu by themselvessāmaṁyeva the teachingdhammaṁ having directly knownabhiññāya reached consummation and perfection of direct knowledge in this very lifediṭṭhadhammābhiññāvosānapāramippattā, the fundamental holy lifeādibrahmacariyaṁ they declarepaṭijānanti, I am one of themtesāhamasmi.
And here’s a way to understand that I am one of them.
hereIdha
to meme,
Bhāradvājabhāradvāja,
before·evenpubbeva
than awakeningsambodhā
not·fully·awakenedanabhisambuddhassa
intent on awakeningbodhisattasseva
beingsato
this occurredetadahosi:
cramped‘sambādho
house·dwellinggharāvāso
dirty pathrajāpatho,
open·spaceabbhokāso
going forthpabbajjā.
not + this·thisNayidaṁ
easy·to dosukaraṁ
at homeagāraṁ
at·dwellingajjhāvasatā
utterly·fullekantaparipuṇṇaṁ
utterly·pureekantaparisuddhaṁ
shell·polishedsaṅkhalikhitaṁ
holy·conductbrahmacariyaṁ
to leadcarituṁ.
why don't IYannūnāhaṁ
hair·beardkesamassuṁ
having shaved offohāretvā
ocher robeskāsāyāni
clothesvatthāni
having dressed inacchādetvā
from homeagārasmā
not·homeanagāriyaṁ
I might go forthpabbajeyyan’ti.
thatSo
indeedkho
Iahaṁ,
Bhāradvājabhāradvāja,
lateraparena
timesamayena
young·justdaharova
beingsamāno
well·black·hairsusukāḷakeso
with auspiciousbhadrena
youthyobbanena
endowed withsamannāgato
with firstpaṭhamena
agevayasā
not·wishingakāmakānaṁ
mother·fathermātāpitūnaṁ
tear·faceassumukhānaṁ
weepingrudantānaṁ
hair·beardkesamassuṁ
having shaved offohāretvā
ocher robeskāsāyāni
clothesvatthāni
having dressed inacchādetvā
from homeagārasmā
not·homeanagāriyaṁ
I went forthpabbajiṁ.
thatSo
thusevaṁ
gone forthpabbajito
beingsamāno
what·skillful·seekerkiṅkusalagavesī
not·higheranuttaraṁ
peace·supreme·statesantivarapadaṁ
seekingpariyesamāno
whereyena
Āḷāraāḷāro
Kālāmakālāmo
I approachedtenupasaṅkamiṁ;
having approachedupasaṅkamitvā
Āḷāraāḷāraṁ
Kālāmakālāmaṁ
this I saidetadavocaṁ:
I wish‘icchāmahaṁ,
friendāvuso
Kālāmakālāma,
in thisimasmiṁ
teaching·trainingdhammavinaye
holy·conductbrahmacariyaṁ
to leadcaritun’ti.
thusEvaṁ
when saidvutte,
Bhāradvājabhāradvāja,
Āḷāraāḷāro
Kālāmakālāmo
to memaṁ
this saidetadavoca:
stay‘viharatāyasmā.
Before my awakening—when I was still unawakened but intent on awakening—I thought: ‘Life at home is cramped and dirty, life gone forth is wide open. It’s not easy for someone living at home to lead the spiritual life utterly full and pure, like a polished shell. Why don’t I shave off my hair and beard, dress in ocher robes, and go forth from the lay life to homelessness?’ Some time later, while still with pristine black hair, blessed with youth, in the prime of life—though my mother and father wished otherwise, weeping with tearful faces—I shaved off my hair and beard, dressed in ocher robes, and went forth from the lay life to homelessness. Once I had gone forth I set out to discover what is skillful, seeking the supreme state of sublime peace. I approached Āḷāra Kālāma and said to him, ‘Reverend Kālāma, I wish to lead the spiritual life in this teaching and training.’ Āḷāra Kālāma replied, ‘Stay, venerable.
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