At Devadaha · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral
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thus·speaker·tooEvaṁvādīpi indeedkho Iahaṁ, O monksbhikkhave, among the Jainsnigaṇṭhesu notna anykañci with·righteoussahadhammikaṁ doctrine·defensevādapaṭihāraṁ I seesamanupassāmi.
againPuna
and furthercaparāhaṁ,
monksbhikkhave,
thosete
Jain asceticsnigaṇṭhe
thusevaṁ
I sayvadāmi:
that‘taṁ
whatkiṁ
do you think, reverendsmaññathāvuso
Jain asceticsnigaṇṭhā,
which + thisyamidaṁ
deedkammaṁ
seen·here·to-be-experienceddiṭṭhadhammavedanīyaṁ
thattaṁ
by exertionupakkamena
orvā
by strivingpadhānena
orvā
future·to-be-experiencedsamparāyavedanīyaṁ
let it be; quotation markerhotūti
can this be gottenlabbhametan’ti?
no‘No
indeed + thishidaṁ,
reverendāvuso’.
but‘Yaṁ
but thispanidaṁ
deedkammaṁ
future·to-be-experiencedsamparāyavedanīyaṁ
thattaṁ
by exertionupakkamena
orvā
by strivingpadhānena
orvā
seen·here·to-be-experienceddiṭṭhadhammavedanīyaṁ
let it be; quotation markerhotūti
can this be gottenlabbhametan’ti?
no‘No
indeed + thishidaṁ,
reverendāvuso’.
that‘Taṁ
what?kiṁ
do you think, reverendsmaññathāvuso
Nigaṇṭhasnigaṇṭhā,
which + hereyamidaṁ
deedkammaṁ
pleasant·to-be-experiencedsukhavedanīyaṁ
thattaṁ
by exertionupakkamena
orvā
by effortpadhānena
orvā
painful·to-be-experienceddukkhavedanīyaṁ
let it behotūti
can this be obtained?labbhametan’ti?
No‘No
indeed + thishidaṁ,
reverendāvuso’.
which‘Yaṁ
but this herepanidaṁ
deedkammaṁ
painful·to-be-experienceddukkhavedanīyaṁ
thattaṁ
by exertionupakkamena
orvā
by effortpadhānena
orvā
pleasant·to-be-experiencedsukhavedanīyaṁ
let it behotūti
can this be obtained?labbhametan’ti?
No‘No
indeed + thishidaṁ,
reverendāvuso’.
that‘Taṁ
what?kiṁ
do you think, reverendsmaññathāvuso
Nigaṇṭhasnigaṇṭhā,
which indeed thisyamidaṁ
deedkammaṁ
to be experienced when ripeparipakkavedanīyaṁ
thattaṁ
by exertionupakkamena
orvā
by strivingpadhānena
orvā
to be experienced when unripeaparipakkavedanīyaṁ
let it be; quotation markerhotūti
is it possible?labbhametan’ti?
no‘No
indeed, reverendhidaṁ,
reverendāvuso’.
which‘Yaṁ
but indeed thispanidaṁ
deedkammaṁ
to be experienced when unripeaparipakkavedanīyaṁ
thattaṁ
by exertionupakkamena
orvā
by strivingpadhānena
orvā
to be experienced when ripeparipakkavedanīyaṁ
let it be; quotation markerhotūti
is it possible?labbhametan’ti?
no‘No
indeed, reverendhidaṁ,
reverendāvuso’.
that‘Taṁ
what?kiṁ
do you think, reverends?maññathāvuso
Nigaṇṭhas,nigaṇṭhā,
which + thisyamidaṁ
deedkammaṁ
much·to-be-experiencedbahuvedanīyaṁ
thattaṁ
by exertionupakkamena
orvā
by effortpadhānena
orvā
little·to-be-experiencedappavedanīyaṁ
let it be, they sayhotūti
this is possible?labbhametan’ti?
no‘No
indeed,hidaṁ,
reverend.āvuso’.
that which‘Yaṁ
but thispanidaṁ
deedkammaṁ
little·to-be-experiencedappavedanīyaṁ
thattaṁ
by exertionupakkamena
orvā
by effortpadhānena
orvā
much·to-be-experiencedbahuvedanīyaṁ
let it be, they sayhotūti
this is possible?labbhametan’ti?
no‘No
indeed,hidaṁ,
reverend.āvuso’.
'that‘Taṁ
what?kiṁ
do you think, reverends?maññathāvuso
Nigaṇṭhas,nigaṇṭhā,
which + thisyamidaṁ
deedkammaṁ
with·experienceablesavedanīyaṁ
thattaṁ
by exertionupakkamena
orvā
by strivingpadhānena
orvā
not·experienceableavedanīyaṁ
may it be so?hotūti
is that possible?'labbhametan’ti?
'No‘No
indeed + thishidaṁ,
reverend'.āvuso’.
'But‘Yaṁ
but + thispanidaṁ
deedkammaṁ
not·experienceableavedanīyaṁ
thattaṁ
by exertionupakkamena
orvā
by strivingpadhānena
orvā
with·experienceablesavedanīyaṁ
may it be so?hotūti
is that possible?'labbhametan’ti?
'No‘No
indeed + thishidaṁ,
reverend'.āvuso’.
thus‘Iti indeedkira, friendāvuso Nigaṇṭhasnigaṇṭhā, which + thisyamidaṁ kammakammaṁ seen·dhamma·to-be-feltdiṭṭhadhammavedanīyaṁ thattaṁ by exertionupakkamena orvā by strivingpadhānena orvā future·to-be-feltsamparāyavedanīyaṁ may it behotūti impossible + thisalabbhametaṁ, whichyaṁ but thispanidaṁ kammakammaṁ future·to-be-feltsamparāyavedanīyaṁ thattaṁ by exertionupakkamena orvā by strivingpadhānena orvā seen·dhamma·to-be-feltdiṭṭhadhammavedanīyaṁ may it behotūti impossible + thisalabbhametaṁ, which + thisyamidaṁ kammakammaṁ pleasant·to-be-feltsukhavedanīyaṁ thattaṁ by exertionupakkamena orvā by strivingpadhānena orvā painful·to-be-feltdukkhavedanīyaṁ may it behotūti impossible + thisalabbhametaṁ, which + thisyamidaṁ kammakammaṁ painful·to-be-feltdukkhavedanīyaṁ thattaṁ by exertionupakkamena orvā by strivingpadhānena orvā pleasant·to-be-feltsukhavedanīyaṁ may it behotūti impossible + thisalabbhametaṁ, which + thisyamidaṁ kammakammaṁ mature·to-be-feltparipakkavedanīyaṁ thattaṁ by exertionupakkamena orvā by strivingpadhānena orvā immature·to-be-feltaparipakkavedanīyaṁ may it behotūti impossible + thisalabbhametaṁ, which + thisyamidaṁ kammakammaṁ immature·to-be-feltaparipakkavedanīyaṁ thattaṁ by exertionupakkamena orvā by strivingpadhānena orvā mature·to-be-feltparipakkavedanīyaṁ may it behotūti impossible + thisalabbhametaṁ, which + thisyamidaṁ kammakammaṁ much·to-be-feltbahuvedanīyaṁ thattaṁ by exertionupakkamena orvā by strivingpadhānena orvā little·to-be-feltappavedanīyaṁ may it behotūti impossible + thisalabbhametaṁ, which + thisyamidaṁ kammakammaṁ little·to-be-feltappavedanīyaṁ thattaṁ by exertionupakkamena orvā by strivingpadhānena orvā much·to-be-feltbahuvedanīyaṁ may it behotūti impossible + thisalabbhametaṁ, which + thisyamidaṁ kammakammaṁ with·to-be-feltsavedanīyaṁ thattaṁ by exertionupakkamena orvā by strivingpadhānena orvā not·to-be-feltavedanīyaṁ may it behotūti impossible + thisalabbhametaṁ, which + thisyamidaṁ kammakammaṁ not·to-be-feltavedanīyaṁ thattaṁ by exertionupakkamena orvā by strivingpadhānena orvā with·to-be-feltsavedanīyaṁ may it behotūti impossible + thisalabbhametaṁ;
thusevaṁ being sosante venerable onesāyasmantānaṁ of the Nigaṇṭhasnigaṇṭhānaṁ not·fruitaphalo up·doupakkamo ishoti, not·fruitaphalaṁ strivingpadhānaṁ’.
thus·speakingEvaṁvādī,
monksbhikkhave,
Jain asceticsnigaṇṭhā.
thus·speakingEvaṁvādīnaṁ,
monksbhikkhave,
of the Jain asceticsnigaṇṭhānaṁ
tendasa
with·legitimatesahadhammikā
statement·rebuttalvādānuvādā
deserving of censuregārayhaṁ
groundṭhānaṁ
to·goāgacchanti.
ifSace,
monksbhikkhave,
sentient beingssattā
past·done·causepubbekatahetu
pleasure·painsukhadukkhaṁ
in return·together·feelpaṭisaṁvedenti;
clearlyaddhā,
monksbhikkhave,
the Jain asceticsnigaṇṭhā
in the pastpubbe
bad·done·doer of deedsdukkaṭakammakārino
sinceyaṁ
nowetarahi
such·formevarūpā
painfuldukkhā
sharptibbā
bitingkaṭukā
painful feelingsvedanā
they experiencevediyanti.
ifSace,
monksbhikkhave,
sentient beingssattā
God·creation·causeissaranimmānahetu
pleasure·painsukhadukkhaṁ
in return·together·feelpaṭisaṁvedenti;
clearlyaddhā,
monksbhikkhave,
the Jain asceticsnigaṇṭhā
by a bad Godpāpakena
by Godissarena
creatednimmitā
sinceyaṁ
nowetarahi
such·formevarūpā
painfuldukkhā
sharptibbā
bitingkaṭukā
painful feelingsvedanā
they experiencevediyanti.
ifSace,
monksbhikkhave,
sentient beingssattā
circumstance·nature·causesaṅgatibhāvahetu
pleasure·painsukhadukkhaṁ
in return·together·feelpaṭisaṁvedenti;
clearlyaddhā,
monksbhikkhave,
the Jain asceticsnigaṇṭhā
bad·arising from circumstancespāpasaṅgatikā
sinceyaṁ
nowetarahi
such·formevarūpā
painfuldukkhā
sharptibbā
bitingkaṭukā
painful feelingsvedanā
they experiencevediyanti.
ifSace,
monksbhikkhave,
sentient beingssattā
higher·birth·causeabhijātihetu
pleasure·painsukhadukkhaṁ
in return·together·feelpaṭisaṁvedenti;
clearlyaddhā,
monksbhikkhave,
the Jain asceticsnigaṇṭhā
bad·reborn in a classpāpābhijātikā
sinceyaṁ
nowetarahi
such·formevarūpā
painfuldukkhā
sharptibbā
bitingkaṭukā
painful feelingsvedanā
they experiencevediyanti.
ifSace,
monksbhikkhave,
sentient beingssattā
seen·dhamma·exertion·causediṭṭhadhammūpakkamahetu
pleasure·painsukhadukkhaṁ
in return·together·feelpaṭisaṁvedenti;
surelyaddhā,
monksbhikkhave,
the Jainsnigaṇṭhā
of such kindevarūpā
exerting in this lifediṭṭhadhammūpakkamā
sinceyaṁ
nowetarahi
of such kindevarūpā
painfuldukkhā
sharptibbā
bitingkaṭukā
feelingsvedanā
they experiencevediyanti.
ifSace,
monksbhikkhave,
beingssattā
before·done·causepubbekatahetu
pleasure·painsukhadukkhaṁ
they experiencepaṭisaṁvedenti,
blameworthygārayhā
the Jainsnigaṇṭhā;
notno
ifce
beingssattā
before·done·causepubbekatahetu
pleasure·painsukhadukkhaṁ
they experiencepaṭisaṁvedenti,
blameworthygārayhā
the Jainsnigaṇṭhā.
ifSace,
monksbhikkhave,
beingssattā
lord·creation·causeissaranimmānahetu
pleasure·painsukhadukkhaṁ
they experiencepaṭisaṁvedenti,
blameworthygārayhā
the Jainsnigaṇṭhā;
notno
ifce
beingssattā
lord·creation·causeissaranimmānahetu
pleasure·painsukhadukkhaṁ
they experiencepaṭisaṁvedenti,
blameworthygārayhā
the Jainsnigaṇṭhā.
ifSace,
monksbhikkhave,
beingssattā
circumstance·nature·causesaṅgatibhāvahetu
pleasure·painsukhadukkhaṁ
they experiencepaṭisaṁvedenti,
blameworthygārayhā
the Jainsnigaṇṭhā;
notno
ifce
beingssattā
circumstance·nature·causesaṅgatibhāvahetu
pleasure·painsukhadukkhaṁ
they experiencepaṭisaṁvedenti,
blameworthygārayhā
the Jainsnigaṇṭhā.
ifSace,
monksbhikkhave,
beingssattā
rebirth·causeabhijātihetu
pleasure·painsukhadukkhaṁ
they experiencepaṭisaṁvedenti,
blameworthygārayhā
the Jainsnigaṇṭhā;
notno
ifce
beingssattā
rebirth·causeabhijātihetu
pleasure·painsukhadukkhaṁ
they experiencepaṭisaṁvedenti,
blameworthygārayhā
the Jainsnigaṇṭhā.
ifSace,
monksbhikkhave,
beingssattā
because of exertion in this lifediṭṭhadhammūpakkamahetu
pleasure·painsukhadukkhaṁ
they experiencepaṭisaṁvedenti,
blameworthygārayhā
the Jainsnigaṇṭhā;
notno
ifce
beingssattā
because of exertion in this lifediṭṭhadhammūpakkamahetu
pleasure·painsukhadukkhaṁ
they experiencepaṭisaṁvedenti,
blameworthygārayhā
the Jainsnigaṇṭhā.
speaking thusEvaṁvādī,
monksbhikkhave,
the Jainsnigaṇṭhā.
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