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Majjhima Nikāya 101

Devadahasutta

At Devadaha · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral

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thus·speaker·tooEvaṁvādīpi indeedkho Iahaṁ, O monksbhikkhave, among the Jainsnigaṇṭhesu notna anykañci with·righteoussahadhammikaṁ doctrine·defensevādapaṭihāraṁ I seesamanupassāmi.

againPuna and furthercaparāhaṁ, monksbhikkhave, thosete Jain asceticsnigaṇṭhe thusevaṁ I sayvadāmi:
that‘taṁ whatkiṁ do you think, reverendsmaññathāvuso Jain asceticsnigaṇṭhā, which + thisyamidaṁ deedkammaṁ seen·here·to-be-experienceddiṭṭhadhammavedanīyaṁ thattaṁ by exertionupakkamena orvā by strivingpadhānena orvā future·to-be-experiencedsamparāyavedanīyaṁ let it be; quotation markerhotūti can this be gottenlabbhametan’ti?
no‘No indeed + thishidaṁ, reverendāvuso’.
but‘Yaṁ but thispanidaṁ deedkammaṁ future·to-be-experiencedsamparāyavedanīyaṁ thattaṁ by exertionupakkamena orvā by strivingpadhānena orvā seen·here·to-be-experienceddiṭṭhadhammavedanīyaṁ let it be; quotation markerhotūti can this be gottenlabbhametan’ti?
no‘No indeed + thishidaṁ, reverendāvuso’.

that‘Taṁ what?kiṁ do you think, reverendsmaññathāvuso Nigaṇṭhasnigaṇṭhā, which + hereyamidaṁ deedkammaṁ pleasant·to-be-experiencedsukhavedanīyaṁ thattaṁ by exertionupakkamena orvā by effortpadhānena orvā painful·to-be-experienceddukkhavedanīyaṁ let it behotūti can this be obtained?labbhametan’ti?
No‘No indeed + thishidaṁ, reverendāvuso’.
which‘Yaṁ but this herepanidaṁ deedkammaṁ painful·to-be-experienceddukkhavedanīyaṁ thattaṁ by exertionupakkamena orvā by effortpadhānena orvā pleasant·to-be-experiencedsukhavedanīyaṁ let it behotūti can this be obtained?labbhametan’ti?
No‘No indeed + thishidaṁ, reverendāvuso’.

that‘Taṁ what?kiṁ do you think, reverendsmaññathāvuso Nigaṇṭhasnigaṇṭhā, which indeed thisyamidaṁ deedkammaṁ to be experienced when ripeparipakkavedanīyaṁ thattaṁ by exertionupakkamena orvā by strivingpadhānena orvā to be experienced when unripeaparipakkavedanīyaṁ let it be; quotation markerhotūti is it possible?labbhametan’ti?
no‘No indeed, reverendhidaṁ, reverendāvuso’.
which‘Yaṁ but indeed thispanidaṁ deedkammaṁ to be experienced when unripeaparipakkavedanīyaṁ thattaṁ by exertionupakkamena orvā by strivingpadhānena orvā to be experienced when ripeparipakkavedanīyaṁ let it be; quotation markerhotūti is it possible?labbhametan’ti?
no‘No indeed, reverendhidaṁ, reverendāvuso’.

that‘Taṁ what?kiṁ do you think, reverends?maññathāvuso Nigaṇṭhas,nigaṇṭhā, which + thisyamidaṁ deedkammaṁ much·to-be-experiencedbahuvedanīyaṁ thattaṁ by exertionupakkamena orvā by effortpadhānena orvā little·to-be-experiencedappavedanīyaṁ let it be, they sayhotūti this is possible?labbhametan’ti?
no‘No indeed,hidaṁ, reverend.āvuso’.
that which‘Yaṁ but thispanidaṁ deedkammaṁ little·to-be-experiencedappavedanīyaṁ thattaṁ by exertionupakkamena orvā by effortpadhānena orvā much·to-be-experiencedbahuvedanīyaṁ let it be, they sayhotūti this is possible?labbhametan’ti?
no‘No indeed,hidaṁ, reverend.āvuso’.

'that‘Taṁ what?kiṁ do you think, reverends?maññathāvuso Nigaṇṭhas,nigaṇṭhā, which + thisyamidaṁ deedkammaṁ with·experienceablesavedanīyaṁ thattaṁ by exertionupakkamena orvā by strivingpadhānena orvā not·experienceableavedanīyaṁ may it be so?hotūti is that possible?'labbhametan’ti?
'No‘No indeed + thishidaṁ, reverend'.āvuso’.
'But‘Yaṁ but + thispanidaṁ deedkammaṁ not·experienceableavedanīyaṁ thattaṁ by exertionupakkamena orvā by strivingpadhānena orvā with·experienceablesavedanīyaṁ may it be so?hotūti is that possible?'labbhametan’ti?
'No‘No indeed + thishidaṁ, reverend'.āvuso’.

thus‘Iti indeedkira, friendāvuso Nigaṇṭhasnigaṇṭhā, which + thisyamidaṁ kammakammaṁ seen·dhamma·to-be-feltdiṭṭhadhammavedanīyaṁ thattaṁ by exertionupakkamena orvā by strivingpadhānena orvā future·to-be-feltsamparāyavedanīyaṁ may it behotūti impossible + thisalabbhametaṁ, whichyaṁ but thispanidaṁ kammakammaṁ future·to-be-feltsamparāyavedanīyaṁ thattaṁ by exertionupakkamena orvā by strivingpadhānena orvā seen·dhamma·to-be-feltdiṭṭhadhammavedanīyaṁ may it behotūti impossible + thisalabbhametaṁ, which + thisyamidaṁ kammakammaṁ pleasant·to-be-feltsukhavedanīyaṁ thattaṁ by exertionupakkamena orvā by strivingpadhānena orvā painful·to-be-feltdukkhavedanīyaṁ may it behotūti impossible + thisalabbhametaṁ, which + thisyamidaṁ kammakammaṁ painful·to-be-feltdukkhavedanīyaṁ thattaṁ by exertionupakkamena orvā by strivingpadhānena orvā pleasant·to-be-feltsukhavedanīyaṁ may it behotūti impossible + thisalabbhametaṁ, which + thisyamidaṁ kammakammaṁ mature·to-be-feltparipakkavedanīyaṁ thattaṁ by exertionupakkamena orvā by strivingpadhānena orvā immature·to-be-feltaparipakkavedanīyaṁ may it behotūti impossible + thisalabbhametaṁ, which + thisyamidaṁ kammakammaṁ immature·to-be-feltaparipakkavedanīyaṁ thattaṁ by exertionupakkamena orvā by strivingpadhānena orvā mature·to-be-feltparipakkavedanīyaṁ may it behotūti impossible + thisalabbhametaṁ, which + thisyamidaṁ kammakammaṁ much·to-be-feltbahuvedanīyaṁ thattaṁ by exertionupakkamena orvā by strivingpadhānena orvā little·to-be-feltappavedanīyaṁ may it behotūti impossible + thisalabbhametaṁ, which + thisyamidaṁ kammakammaṁ little·to-be-feltappavedanīyaṁ thattaṁ by exertionupakkamena orvā by strivingpadhānena orvā much·to-be-feltbahuvedanīyaṁ may it behotūti impossible + thisalabbhametaṁ, which + thisyamidaṁ kammakammaṁ with·to-be-feltsavedanīyaṁ thattaṁ by exertionupakkamena orvā by strivingpadhānena orvā not·to-be-feltavedanīyaṁ may it behotūti impossible + thisalabbhametaṁ, which + thisyamidaṁ kammakammaṁ not·to-be-feltavedanīyaṁ thattaṁ by exertionupakkamena orvā by strivingpadhānena orvā with·to-be-feltsavedanīyaṁ may it behotūti impossible + thisalabbhametaṁ;

thusevaṁ being sosante venerable onesāyasmantānaṁ of the Nigaṇṭhasnigaṇṭhānaṁ not·fruitaphalo up·doupakkamo ishoti, not·fruitaphalaṁ strivingpadhānaṁ’.

thus·speakingEvaṁvādī, monksbhikkhave, Jain asceticsnigaṇṭhā.
thus·speakingEvaṁvādīnaṁ, monksbhikkhave, of the Jain asceticsnigaṇṭhānaṁ tendasa with·legitimatesahadhammikā statement·rebuttalvādānuvādā deserving of censuregārayhaṁ groundṭhānaṁ to·goāgacchanti.
ifSace, monksbhikkhave, sentient beingssattā past·done·causepubbekatahetu pleasure·painsukhadukkhaṁ in return·together·feelpaṭisaṁvedenti;
clearlyaddhā, monksbhikkhave, the Jain asceticsnigaṇṭhā in the pastpubbe bad·done·doer of deedsdukkaṭakammakārino sinceyaṁ nowetarahi such·formevarūpā painfuldukkhā sharptibbā bitingkaṭukā painful feelingsvedanā they experiencevediyanti.
ifSace, monksbhikkhave, sentient beingssattā God·creation·causeissaranimmānahetu pleasure·painsukhadukkhaṁ in return·together·feelpaṭisaṁvedenti;
clearlyaddhā, monksbhikkhave, the Jain asceticsnigaṇṭhā by a bad Godpāpakena by Godissarena creatednimmitā sinceyaṁ nowetarahi such·formevarūpā painfuldukkhā sharptibbā bitingkaṭukā painful feelingsvedanā they experiencevediyanti.
ifSace, monksbhikkhave, sentient beingssattā circumstance·nature·causesaṅgatibhāvahetu pleasure·painsukhadukkhaṁ in return·together·feelpaṭisaṁvedenti;
clearlyaddhā, monksbhikkhave, the Jain asceticsnigaṇṭhā bad·arising from circumstancespāpasaṅgatikā sinceyaṁ nowetarahi such·formevarūpā painfuldukkhā sharptibbā bitingkaṭukā painful feelingsvedanā they experiencevediyanti.
ifSace, monksbhikkhave, sentient beingssattā higher·birth·causeabhijātihetu pleasure·painsukhadukkhaṁ in return·together·feelpaṭisaṁvedenti;
clearlyaddhā, monksbhikkhave, the Jain asceticsnigaṇṭhā bad·reborn in a classpāpābhijātikā sinceyaṁ nowetarahi such·formevarūpā painfuldukkhā sharptibbā bitingkaṭukā painful feelingsvedanā they experiencevediyanti.
ifSace, monksbhikkhave, sentient beingssattā seen·dhamma·exertion·causediṭṭhadhammūpakkamahetu pleasure·painsukhadukkhaṁ in return·together·feelpaṭisaṁvedenti;

surelyaddhā, monksbhikkhave, the Jainsnigaṇṭhā of such kindevarūpā exerting in this lifediṭṭhadhammūpakkamā sinceyaṁ nowetarahi of such kindevarūpā painfuldukkhā sharptibbā bitingkaṭukā feelingsvedanā they experiencevediyanti.
ifSace, monksbhikkhave, beingssattā before·done·causepubbekatahetu pleasure·painsukhadukkhaṁ they experiencepaṭisaṁvedenti, blameworthygārayhā the Jainsnigaṇṭhā;
notno ifce beingssattā before·done·causepubbekatahetu pleasure·painsukhadukkhaṁ they experiencepaṭisaṁvedenti, blameworthygārayhā the Jainsnigaṇṭhā.
ifSace, monksbhikkhave, beingssattā lord·creation·causeissaranimmānahetu pleasure·painsukhadukkhaṁ they experiencepaṭisaṁvedenti, blameworthygārayhā the Jainsnigaṇṭhā;
notno ifce beingssattā lord·creation·causeissaranimmānahetu pleasure·painsukhadukkhaṁ they experiencepaṭisaṁvedenti, blameworthygārayhā the Jainsnigaṇṭhā.
ifSace, monksbhikkhave, beingssattā circumstance·nature·causesaṅgatibhāvahetu pleasure·painsukhadukkhaṁ they experiencepaṭisaṁvedenti, blameworthygārayhā the Jainsnigaṇṭhā;
notno ifce beingssattā circumstance·nature·causesaṅgatibhāvahetu pleasure·painsukhadukkhaṁ they experiencepaṭisaṁvedenti, blameworthygārayhā the Jainsnigaṇṭhā.
ifSace, monksbhikkhave, beingssattā rebirth·causeabhijātihetu pleasure·painsukhadukkhaṁ they experiencepaṭisaṁvedenti, blameworthygārayhā the Jainsnigaṇṭhā;
notno ifce beingssattā rebirth·causeabhijātihetu pleasure·painsukhadukkhaṁ they experiencepaṭisaṁvedenti, blameworthygārayhā the Jainsnigaṇṭhā.
ifSace, monksbhikkhave, beingssattā because of exertion in this lifediṭṭhadhammūpakkamahetu pleasure·painsukhadukkhaṁ they experiencepaṭisaṁvedenti, blameworthygārayhā the Jainsnigaṇṭhā;
notno ifce beingssattā because of exertion in this lifediṭṭhadhammūpakkamahetu pleasure·painsukhadukkhaṁ they experiencepaṭisaṁvedenti, blameworthygārayhā the Jainsnigaṇṭhā.
speaking thusEvaṁvādī, monksbhikkhave, the Jainsnigaṇṭhā.

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