At Devadaha · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral
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of those of such doctrineEvaṁvādīnaṁ,
monksbhikkhave,
of the Jainsnigaṇṭhānaṁ
theseime
tendasa
with·legitimatesahadhammikā
rebut·to + criticismvādānuvādā
deservinggārayhaṁ
groundṭhānaṁ
they come toāgacchanti.
thusEvaṁ
indeedkho,
monksbhikkhave,
not·fruitaphalo
exertionupakkamo
ishoti,
not·fruitaphalaṁ
strivingpadhānaṁ.
and howKathañca,
monksbhikkhave,
with·fruitsaphalo
exertionupakkamo
ishoti,
with·fruitsaphalaṁ
strivingpadhānaṁ?
hereIdha,
monksbhikkhave,
a mendicantbhikkhu
notna
indeed notheva
not·hurt·beenanaddhabhūtaṁ
selfattānaṁ
with sufferingdukkhena
hurt·cause to beaddhabhāveti,
and legitimatedhammikañca
pleasuresukhaṁ
notna
around·give uppariccajati,
and in thattasmiñca
in pleasuresukhe
not besottedanadhimucchito
ishoti.
heSo
thusevaṁ
forth·knowpajānāti:
of this‘imassa
indeedkho
of meme
suffering·sourcedukkhanidānassa
activitysaṅkhāraṁ
forth·strivepadahato
activity·strivingsaṅkhārappadhānā
dispassionvirāgo
ishoti,
of thisimassa
butpana
of meme
suffering·sourcedukkhanidānassa
on·look onajjhupekkhato
equanimityupekkhaṁ
developingbhāvayato
dispassionvirāgo
ishotī’ti.
heSo
for whomyassa
indeedhi
indeed·for himkhvāssa
suffering·sourcedukkhanidānassa
activitysaṅkhāraṁ
forth·strivepadahato
activity·strivingsaṅkhārappadhānā
dispassionvirāgo
ishoti,
activitysaṅkhāraṁ
theretattha
forth·strivepadahati.
for whomYassa
but·for himpanassa
suffering·sourcedukkhanidānassa
on·look onajjhupekkhato
equanimityupekkhaṁ
developingbhāvayato
dispassionvirāgo
ishoti,
equanimityupekkhaṁ
theretattha
developsbhāveti.
for himTassa
for thattassa
suffering·sourcedukkhanidānassa
activitysaṅkhāraṁ
forth·strivepadahato
activity·strivingsaṅkhārappadhānā
dispassionvirāgo
ishoti—
thus·for himevampissa
thattaṁ
sufferingdukkhaṁ
worn awaynijjiṇṇaṁ
ishoti.
for himTassa
for thattassa
suffering·sourcedukkhanidānassa
on·look onajjhupekkhato
equanimityupekkhaṁ
developingbhāvayato
dispassionvirāgo
ishoti—
thus·for himevampissa
thattaṁ
sufferingdukkhaṁ
worn awaynijjiṇṇaṁ
ishoti.
just asSeyyathāpi,
mendicantsbhikkhave,
a manpuriso
with a womanitthiyā
in lovesāratto
bound·mindpaṭibaddhacitto
intense·desiretibbacchando
full of lusttibbāpekkho.
heSo
thattaṁ
womanitthiṁ
would seepasseyya
with anotheraññena
manpurisena
togethersaddhiṁ
together·standingsantiṭṭhantiṁ
chattingsallapantiṁ
together·gigglingsañjagghantiṁ
together·laughingsaṁhasantiṁ.
thatTaṁ
whatkiṁ
do you thinkmaññatha,
mendicantsbhikkhave,
wouldapi
thennu
for thattassa
manpurisassa
thatamuṁ
womanitthiṁ
having seendisvā
with anotheraññena
manpurisena
togethersaddhiṁ
together·standingsantiṭṭhantiṁ
chattingsallapantiṁ
together·gigglingsañjagghantiṁ
together·laughingsaṁhasantiṁ
would ariseuppajjeyyuṁ
sorrow·lamentation·pain·sadness·distress·quotation markersokaparidevadukkhadomanassūpāyāsā”ti?
Yes“Evaṁ,
sirbhante”.
that“Taṁ
of whatkissa
causehetu”?
that“Amu
indeedhi,
sirbhante,
manpuriso
with thatamussā
womanitthiyā
in lovesāratto
bound·mindpaṭibaddhacitto
intense·desiretibbacchando
full of lusttibbāpekkho.
thereforeTasmā
thattaṁ
womanitthiṁ
having seendisvā
with anotheraññena
manpurisena
togethersaddhiṁ
together·standingsantiṭṭhantiṁ
chattingsallapantiṁ
together·gigglingsañjagghantiṁ
together·laughingsaṁhasantiṁ
would ariseuppajjeyyuṁ
sorrow·lamentation·pain·sadness·distress·quotation markersokaparidevadukkhadomanassūpāyāsā”ti.
then“Atha
indeedkho,
monksbhikkhave,
of thattassa
of the manpurisassa
it might be thusevamassa:
I‘ahaṁ
indeedkho
for thatamussā
of the womanitthiyā
in lovesāratto
with mind boundpaṭibaddhacitto
with intense desiretibbacchando
with intense longingtibbāpekkho.
of thatTassa
for meme
thatamuṁ
womanitthiṁ
having seendisvā
with anotheraññena
with a manpurisena
togethersaddhiṁ
together·standsantiṭṭhantiṁ
chattingsallapantiṁ
together·laughsañjagghantiṁ
together·laughsaṁhasantiṁ
ariseuppajjanti
sorrow, lamentation, pain, sadness, and distresssokaparidevadukkhadomanassūpāyāsā.
what·now·IYannūnāhaṁ
whichyo
for meme
for thatamussā
of the womanitthiyā
desire and lustchandarāgo
thattaṁ
I might abandonpajaheyyan’ti.
heSo
whichyo
for thatamussā
of the womanitthiyā
desire and lustchandarāgo
thattaṁ
he would abandonpajaheyya.
heSo
thattaṁ
womanitthiṁ
he would seepasseyya
by lateraparena
timesamayena
with anotheraññena
with a manpurisena
togethersaddhiṁ
together·standsantiṭṭhantiṁ
chattingsallapantiṁ
together·laughsañjagghantiṁ
laughingsaṁhasantiṁ.
thatTaṁ
whatkiṁ
do you thinkmaññatha,
monksbhikkhave,
wouldapi
thennu
of thattassa
of the manpurisassa
thatamuṁ
womanitthiṁ
having seendisvā
with anotheraññena
with a manpurisena
togethersaddhiṁ
together·standsantiṭṭhantiṁ
chattingsallapantiṁ
together·laughsañjagghantiṁ
together·laughsaṁhasantiṁ
would ariseuppajjeyyuṁ
sorrow, lamentation, pain, sadness, and distresssokaparidevadukkhadomanassūpāyāsā”ti?
no“No
indeed thathetaṁ,
sirbhante”.
that“Taṁ
of whatkissa
causehetu”?
that“Amu
indeedhi,
sirbhante,
manpuriso
for thatamussā
of the womanitthiyā
free of desirevirāgo.
thereforeTasmā thattaṁ womanitthiṁ having seendisvā with anotheraññena with a manpurisena togethersaddhiṁ standing togethersantiṭṭhantiṁ conversingsallapantiṁ laughing togethersañjagghantiṁ jesting togethersaṁhasantiṁ notna would ariseuppajjeyyuṁ sorrow, lamentation, pain, grief and despair”sokaparidevadukkhadomanassūpāyāsā”ti.
just so“Evameva
indeedkho,
O monksbhikkhave,
a monkbhikkhu
notna
indeedheva
unafflictedanaddhabhūtaṁ
himselfattānaṁ
with sufferingdukkhena
causes to be afflictedaddhabhāveti,
and legitimatedhammikañca
pleasuresukhaṁ
notna
forsakespariccajati,
and in thattasmiñca
pleasuresukhe
not besottedanadhimucchito
ishoti.
heSo
thusevaṁ
understandspajānāti:
of this‘imassa
indeedkho
for meme
source of sufferingdukkhanidānassa
activitysaṅkhāraṁ
actively strivingpadahato
from active strivingsaṅkhārappadhānā
dispassionvirāgo
ishoti,
of thisimassa
butpana
for meme
source of sufferingdukkhanidānassa
being equanimousajjhupekkhato
equanimityupekkhaṁ
developingbhāvayato
dispassionvirāgo
ishotī’ti.
heSo
for whichyassa
indeedhi
for himkhvāssa
source of sufferingdukkhanidānassa
activitysaṅkhāraṁ
actively strivingpadahato
from active strivingsaṅkhārappadhānā
dispassionvirāgo
ishoti,
activitysaṅkhāraṁ
theretattha
strivespadahati;
for whichyassa
but for himpanassa
source of sufferingdukkhanidānassa
being equanimousajjhupekkhato
equanimityupekkhaṁ
developingbhāvayato
dispassionvirāgo
ishoti,
equanimityupekkhaṁ
theretattha
developsbhāveti.
for himTassa
for himtassa
source of sufferingdukkhanidānassa
activitysaṅkhāraṁ
actively strivingpadahato
from active strivingsaṅkhārappadhānā
dispassionvirāgo
ishoti—
and thus for himevampissa
thattaṁ
sufferingdukkhaṁ
worn awaynijjiṇṇaṁ
ishoti.
for himTassa
for himtassa
source of sufferingdukkhanidānassa
being equanimousajjhupekkhato
equanimityupekkhaṁ
developingbhāvayato
dispassionvirāgo
ishoti—
and thus for himevampissa
thattaṁ
sufferingdukkhaṁ
worn awaynijjiṇṇaṁ
ishoti.
Thus tooEvampi,
O monksbhikkhave,
fruitfulsaphalo
exertionupakkamo
ishoti,
fruitfulsaphalaṁ
strivingpadhānaṁ.
furthermorePuna
and moreovercaparaṁ,
monksbhikkhave,
a mendicantbhikkhu
thusiti
reflectspaṭisañcikkhati:
as I please‘yathāsukhaṁ
indeedkho
for meme
livingviharato
not·skillfulakusalā
qualitiesdhammā
growabhivaḍḍhanti,
skillfulkusalā
qualitiesdhammā
declineparihāyanti;
painfullydukkhāya
butpana
for meme
myselfattānaṁ
forth·putpadahato
not·skillfulakusalā
qualitiesdhammā
declineparihāyanti,
skillfulkusalā
qualitiesdhammā
growabhivaḍḍhanti.
why don't IYannūnāhaṁ
painfullydukkhāya
myselfattānaṁ
I should strivepadaheyyan’ti.
heSo
painfullydukkhāya
himselfattānaṁ
strivespadahati.
of himTassa
painfullydukkhāya
himselfattānaṁ
forth·putpadahato
not·skillfulakusalā
qualitiesdhammā
around·diminishparihāyanti
skillfulkusalā
qualitiesdhammā
growabhivaḍḍhanti.
heSo
notna
not·afteraparena
timesamayena
painfullydukkhāya
himselfattānaṁ
strivespadahati.
thatTaṁ
of whatkissa
reasonhetu?
for himYassa
indeedhi
whoso,
monksbhikkhave,
a mendicantbhikkhu
for the sake ofatthāya
painfullydukkhāya
himselfattānaṁ
forth·putpadaheyya
he·for himsvāssa
goalattho
towards·producedabhinipphanno
ishoti.
thereforeTasmā
notna
not·afteraparena
timesamayena
painfullydukkhāya
himselfattānaṁ
strivespadahati.
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