At Devadaha · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral
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thusEvaṁ
when saidvutte,
Iahaṁ,
monksbhikkhave,
thosete
Jainsnigaṇṭhe
I said this to themetadavocaṁ:
five‘pañca
indeedkho
theseime,
friendsāvuso
Jainsnigaṇṭhā,
thingsdhammā
in this very lifediṭṭheva
in this very lifedhamme
turn out in two different waysdvidhāvipākā.
whatKatame
fivepañca?
faithSaddhā,
endorsementruci,
oral transmissionanussavo,
reasoned train of thoughtākāraparivitakko,
acceptance of a view after deliberationdiṭṭhinijjhānakkhanti—
theseime
indeedkho,
friendsāvuso
Jainsnigaṇṭhā,
fivepañca
thingsdhammā
in this very lifediṭṭheva
in this very lifedhamme
turn out in two different waysdvidhāvipākā.
in this caseTatrāyasmantānaṁ
of the Jainsnigaṇṭhānaṁ
whatkā
in regard to the pastatītaṁse
in the teachersatthari
faithsaddhā,
whatkā
endorsementruci,
whatko
oral transmissionanussavo,
whatko
reasoned train of thoughtākāraparivitakko,
whatkā
acceptance of a view after deliberationdiṭṭhinijjhānakkhantī’ti.
speaking thusEvaṁvādī
indeedkho
Iahaṁ,
monksbhikkhave,
among the Jainsnigaṇṭhesu
notna
anykañci
legitimatesahadhammikaṁ
defense of their doctrinevādapaṭihāraṁ
I seesamanupassāmi.
furthermorePuna
and moreover Icaparāhaṁ,
monksbhikkhave,
thosete
Jain asceticsnigaṇṭhe
thusevaṁ
I sayvadāmi:
that‘taṁ
whatkiṁ
do you thinkmaññatha,
reverendsāvuso
Jain asceticsnigaṇṭhā.
in whichYasmiṁ
for youvo
timesamaye
intensetibbo
exertionupakkamo
ishoti
intensetibbaṁ
strivingpadhānaṁ,
severetibbā
at thattasmiṁ
timesamaye
due to exertionopakkamikā
painfuldukkhā
sharptibbā
acutekaṭukā
feelingsvedanā
do you suffervediyetha;
in whichyasmiṁ
butpana
for youvo
timesamaye
notna
intensetibbo
exertionupakkamo
ishoti
notna
intensetibbaṁ
strivingpadhānaṁ,
notna
severetibbā
at thattasmiṁ
timesamaye
due to exertionopakkamikā
painfuldukkhā
sharptibbā
acutekaṭukā
feelingsvedanā
do you not suffervediyethā’ti?
in which‘Yasmiṁ
for usno,
reverendāvuso
Gotamagotama,
timesamaye
intensetibbo
exertionupakkamo
ishoti
intensetibbaṁ
strivingpadhānaṁ,
severetibbā
at thattasmiṁ
timesamaye
due to exertionopakkamikā
painfuldukkhā
sharptibbā
acutekaṭukā
feelingsvedanā
we suffervediyāma;
in whichyasmiṁ
butpana
for usno
timesamaye
notna
intensetibbo
exertionupakkamo
ishoti
notna
intensetibbaṁ
strivingpadhānaṁ,
notna
severetibbā
at thattasmiṁ
timesamaye
due to exertionopakkamikā
painfuldukkhā
sharptibbā
acutekaṭukā
feelingsvedanā
we do not suffervediyāmā’ti.
thus‘Iti
indeedkira,
friendāvuso
Jainsnigaṇṭhā,
in whichyasmiṁ
of youvo
timesamaye
intensetibbo
exertionupakkamo
ishoti
intensetibbaṁ
strivingpadhānaṁ,
intensetibbā
at thattasmiṁ
timesamaye
due to exertionopakkamikā
painfuldukkhā
intensetibbā
sharpkaṭukā
feelingsvedanā
you experiencevediyetha;
in whichyasmiṁ
butpana
of youvo
timesamaye
notna
intensetibbo
exertionupakkamo
ishoti
notna
intensetibbaṁ
strivingpadhānaṁ,
notna
intensetibbā
at thattasmiṁ
timesamaye
due to exertionopakkamikā
painfuldukkhā
intensetibbā
sharpkaṭukā
feelingsvedanā
you experiencevediyetha.
thusEvaṁ
beingsante
of the venerable onesāyasmantānaṁ
of the Jainsnigaṇṭhānaṁ
notna
it would be properkallamassa
to declareveyyākaraṇāya:
whatever“yaṁ
thiskiñcāyaṁ
individual personpurisapuggalo
experiencespaṭisaṁvedeti
pleasuresukhaṁ
orvā
paindukkhaṁ
orvā
neither painful nor pleasantadukkhamasukhaṁ
orvā,
allsabbaṁ
thattaṁ
because of past deedspubbekatahetu.
thusIti
of oldpurāṇānaṁ
of kammaskammānaṁ
by austeritytapasā
by eliminationbyantībhāvā,
of newnavānaṁ
of kammaskammānaṁ
by non-doingakaraṇā,
in the futureāyatiṁ
no influxanavassavo;
in the futureāyatiṁ
from no influxanavassavā
ending of kammakammakkhayo;
from ending of kammakammakkhayā
ending of sufferingdukkhakkhayo;
from ending of sufferingdukkhakkhayā
ending of feelingvedanākkhayo;
from ending of feelingvedanākkhayā
allsabbaṁ
sufferingdukkhaṁ
worn awaynijjiṇṇaṁ
will bebhavissatī”ti.
ifSace,
friendsāvuso
Jainsnigaṇṭhā,
in whichyasmiṁ
for youvo
at a timesamaye
intensetibbo
exertionupakkamo
ishoti
intensetibbaṁ
effortpadhānaṁ,
notna
intensetibbā
at thattasmiṁ
at a timesamaye
due to exertionopakkamikā
painfuldukkhā
intensetibbā
sharpkaṭukā
feelingsvedanā
you would experiencevediyetha;
in whichyasmiṁ
butpana
for youvo
at a timesamaye
notna
intensetibbo
exertionupakkamo
ishoti
notna
intensetibbaṁ
effortpadhānaṁ,
intensetibbā
at thattasmiṁ
at a timesamaye
due to exertionopakkamikā
painfuldukkhā
intensetibbā
sharpkaṭukā
feelingsvedanā
you would experiencevediyetha;
thusevaṁ
beingsante
venerablesāyasmantānaṁ
Jainsnigaṇṭhānaṁ
it would be appropriatekallamassa
for declaringveyyākaraṇāya:
whatever“yaṁ
anykiñcāyaṁ
personpurisapuggalo
experiencespaṭisaṁvedeti
pleasuresukhaṁ
orvā
paindukkhaṁ
orvā
neither-pain-nor-pleasureadukkhamasukhaṁ
orvā,
allsabbaṁ
thattaṁ
caused by past deedspubbekatahetu.
thusIti
oldpurāṇānaṁ
kammaskammānaṁ
by austeritytapasā
by endingbyantībhāvā,
newnavānaṁ
kammaskammānaṁ
by non-doingakaraṇā,
in the futureāyatiṁ
no influxanavassavo;
in the futureāyatiṁ
from no influxanavassavā
kamma-destructionkammakkhayo;
from kamma-destructionkammakkhayā
pain-destructiondukkhakkhayo;
from pain-destructiondukkhakkhayā
feeling-destructionvedanākkhayo;
from feeling-destructionvedanākkhayā
allsabbaṁ
sufferingdukkhaṁ
will be exhaustednijjiṇṇaṁ
will bebhavissatī”ti.
sinceYasmā
andca
indeedkho,
friendsāvuso
Nigaṇṭhasnigaṇṭhā,
in whichyasmiṁ
of youvo
at the timesamaye
intensetibbo
exertionupakkamo
ishoti
intensetibbaṁ
strivingpadhānaṁ,
intensetibbā
at thattasmiṁ
at the timesamaye
due to exertionopakkamikā
painfuldukkhā
intensetibbā
sharpkaṭukā
feelingsvedanā
you experiencevediyetha;
but in whichyasmiṁ
howeverpana
of youvo
at the timesamaye
notna
intensetibbo
exertionupakkamo
ishoti
notna
intensetibbaṁ
strivingpadhānaṁ,
notna
intensetibbā
at thattasmiṁ
at the timesamaye
due to exertionopakkamikā
painfuldukkhā
intensetibbā
sharpkaṭukā
feelingsvedanā
you experiencevediyetha;
thosete
youtumhe
only yourselvessāmaṁyeva
due to exertionopakkamikā
painfuldukkhā
intensetibbā
sharpkaṭukā
feelingsvedanā
experiencingvedayamānā
ignoranceavijjā
unknowingaññāṇā
confusionsammohā
you misconstruevipaccetha:
whatever“yaṁ
whatever thiskiñcāyaṁ
individual personpurisapuggalo
experiencespaṭisaṁvedeti
pleasurablesukhaṁ
orvā
painfuldukkhaṁ
orvā
neutraladukkhamasukhaṁ
orvā,
allsabbaṁ
thattaṁ
because of past deedspubbekatahetu.
thusIti
of oldpurāṇānaṁ
of kammaskammānaṁ
by austeritytapasā
by destructionbyantībhāvā,
of newnavānaṁ
of kammaskammānaṁ
by non-doingakaraṇā,
in the futureāyatiṁ
non-influxanavassavo;
in the futureāyatiṁ
from non-influxanavassavā
destruction of kammakammakkhayo;
from destruction of kammakammakkhayā
destruction of sufferingdukkhakkhayo;
from destruction of sufferingdukkhakkhayā
destruction of feelingvedanākkhayo;
from destruction of feelingvedanākkhayā
allsabbaṁ
sufferingdukkhaṁ
worn outnijjiṇṇaṁ
will bebhavissatī”’ti.
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