Is This What You Think Of Me? · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral
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Evaṁ
me
sutaṁ—
ekaṁ
samayaṁ
bhagavā
pisinārāyaṁ
viharati
baliharaṇe
vanasaṇḍe.
Tatra
kho
bhagavā
bhikkhū
āmantesi:
“bhikkhavo”ti.
“Bhadante”ti
te
bhikkhū
bhagavato
paccassosuṁ.
Bhagavā
etadavoca:
So I have heard. At one time the Buddha was staying near Kusinārā in the Forest of Offerings. There the Buddha addressed the mendicants, “Mendicants!” “Venerable sir,” they replied. The Buddha said this:
“kinti
vo,
bhikkhave,
mayi
hoti:
‘cīvarahetu
vā
samaṇo
gotamo
dhammaṁ
deseti,
piṇḍapātahetu
vā
samaṇo
gotamo
dhammaṁ
deseti,
senāsanahetu
vā
samaṇo
gotamo
dhammaṁ
deseti,
itibhavābhavahetu
vā
samaṇo
gotamo
dhammaṁ
desetī’”ti?
“Na
kho
no,
bhante,
bhagavati
evaṁ
hoti:
‘cīvarahetu
vā
samaṇo
gotamo
dhammaṁ
deseti,
piṇḍapātahetu
vā
samaṇo
gotamo
dhammaṁ
deseti,
senāsanahetu
vā
samaṇo
gotamo
dhammaṁ
deseti,
itibhavābhavahetu
vā
samaṇo
gotamo
dhammaṁ
desetī’”ti.
“Na
ca
kira
vo,
bhikkhave,
mayi
evaṁ
hoti:
‘cīvarahetu
vā
samaṇo
gotamo
dhammaṁ
deseti
…pe…
itibhavābhavahetu
vā
samaṇo
gotamo
dhammaṁ
desetī’ti;
atha
kinti
carahi
vo,
bhikkhave,
mayi
hotī”ti?
“Evaṁ
kho
no,
bhante,
bhagavati
hoti:
‘anukampako
bhagavā
hitesī;
“Mendicants, is this what you think of me? ‘The ascetic Gotama teaches the Dhamma for the sake of robes, almsfood, lodgings, or rebirth in this or that state.’” “No sir, we don’t think of you that way.” “If you don’t think of me that way, what then do you think of me?” “We think of you this way: ‘The Buddha is sympathetic and wants what’s best for us.
anukampaṁ
upādāya
dhammaṁ
desetī’”ti.
“Evañca
kira
vo,
bhikkhave,
mayi
hoti:
‘anukampako
bhagavā
hitesī;
anukampaṁ
upādāya
dhammaṁ
desetī’ti.
He teaches out of sympathy.’” “So it seems you think that I teach out of sympathy.
Tasmātiha,
bhikkhave,
ye
vo
mayā
dhammā
abhiññā
desitā,
seyyathidaṁ—
cattāro
satipaṭṭhānā
cattāro
sammappadhānā
cattāro
iddhipādā
pañcindriyāni
pañca
balāni
satta
bojjhaṅgā
ariyo
aṭṭhaṅgiko
maggo,
tattha
sabbeheva
samaggehi
sammodamānehi
avivadamānehi
sikkhitabbaṁ.
In that case, each and every one of you should train in the things I have taught from my direct knowledge, that is: the four kinds of mindfulness meditation, the four right efforts, the four bases of psychic power, the five faculties, the five powers, the seven awakening factors, and the noble eightfold path. You should train in these things in harmony, appreciating each other, without dispute.
Tesañca vo, bhikkhave, samaggānaṁ sammodamānānaṁ avivadamānānaṁ sikkhataṁ siyaṁsu dve bhikkhū abhidhamme nānāvādā.
As you do so, it may happen that two mendicants disagree about the teaching.
Tatra
ce
tumhākaṁ
evamassa:
‘imesaṁ
kho
āyasmantānaṁ
atthato
ceva
nānaṁ
byañjanato
ca
nānan’ti,
tattha
yaṁ
bhikkhuṁ
suvacataraṁ
maññeyyātha
so
upasaṅkamitvā
evamassa
vacanīyo:
‘āyasmantānaṁ
kho
atthato
ceva
nānaṁ,
byañjanato
ca
nānaṁ.
Tadamināpetaṁ
āyasmanto
jānātha—
yathā
atthato
ceva
nānaṁ,
byañjanato
ca
nānaṁ.
Māyasmanto
vivādaṁ
āpajjitthā’ti.
Athāparesaṁ
ekatopakkhikānaṁ
bhikkhūnaṁ
yaṁ
bhikkhuṁ
suvacataraṁ
maññeyyātha
so
upasaṅkamitvā
evamassa
vacanīyo:
‘āyasmantānaṁ
kho
atthato
ceva
nānaṁ,
byañjanato
ca
nānaṁ.
Tadamināpetaṁ
āyasmanto
jānātha—
yathā
atthato
ceva
nānaṁ,
byañjanato
ca
nānaṁ.
Māyasmanto
vivādaṁ
āpajjitthā’ti.
Iti
duggahitaṁ
duggahitato
dhāretabbaṁ,
suggahitaṁ
suggahitato
dhāretabbaṁ.
Duggahitaṁ
duggahitato
dhāretvā
suggahitaṁ
suggahitato
dhāretvā
yo
dhammo
yo
vinayo
so
bhāsitabbo.
Now, you might think, ‘These two venerables disagree on both the meaning and the phrasing.’ So you should approach whichever mendicant you think is most amenable and say to them: ‘The venerables disagree on the meaning and the phrasing. But the venerables should know that this is how such disagreement on the meaning and the phrasing comes to be. Please don’t get into a dispute about this.’ Then you should approach whichever mendicant they think is most amenable among those who side with the other party and say to them: ‘The venerables disagree on the meaning and the phrasing. But the venerables should know that this is how such disagreement on the meaning and the phrasing comes to be. Please don’t get into a dispute about this.’ So you should remember what has been incorrectly memorized as incorrectly memorized and what has been correctly memorized as correctly memorized. Remembering this, you should speak on the teaching and the training.
Tatra
ce
tumhākaṁ
evamassa:
‘imesaṁ
kho
āyasmantānaṁ
atthato
hi
kho
nānaṁ,
byañjanato
sametī’ti,
tattha
yaṁ
bhikkhuṁ
suvacataraṁ
maññeyyātha
so
upasaṅkamitvā
evamassa
vacanīyo:
‘āyasmantānaṁ
kho
atthato
hi
nānaṁ,
byañjanato
sameti.
Tadamināpetaṁ
āyasmanto
jānātha—
yathā
atthato
hi
kho
nānaṁ,
byañjanato
sameti.
Māyasmanto
vivādaṁ
āpajjitthā’ti.
Athāparesaṁ
ekatopakkhikānaṁ
bhikkhūnaṁ
yaṁ
bhikkhuṁ
suvacataraṁ
maññeyyātha
so
upasaṅkamitvā
evamassa
vacanīyo:
‘āyasmantānaṁ
kho
atthato
hi
kho
nānaṁ,
byañjanato
sameti.
Tadamināpetaṁ
āyasmanto
jānātha—
yathā
atthato
hi
kho
nānaṁ,
byañjanato
sameti.
Māyasmanto
vivādaṁ
āpajjitthā’ti.
Iti
duggahitaṁ
duggahitato
dhāretabbaṁ,
suggahitaṁ
suggahitato
dhāretabbaṁ.
Duggahitaṁ
duggahitato
dhāretvā
suggahitaṁ
suggahitato
dhāretvā
yo
dhammo
yo
vinayo
so
bhāsitabbo.
Now, you might think, ‘These two venerables disagree on the meaning but agree on the phrasing.’ So you should approach whichever mendicant you think is most amenable and say to them: ‘The venerables disagree on the meaning but agree on the phrasing. But the venerables should know that this is how such disagreement on the meaning and agreement on the phrasing comes to be. Please don’t get into a dispute about this.’ Then you should approach whichever mendicant they think is most amenable among those who side with the other party and say to them: ‘The venerables disagree on the meaning but agree on the phrasing. But the venerables should know that this is how such disagreement on the meaning and agreement on the phrasing comes to be. Please don’t get into a dispute about this.’ So you should remember what has been incorrectly memorized as incorrectly memorized and what has been correctly memorized as correctly memorized. Remembering this, you should speak on the teaching and the training.
Tatra
ce
tumhākaṁ
evamassa:
‘imesaṁ
kho
āyasmantānaṁ
atthato
hi
kho
sameti,
byañjanato
nānan’ti,
tattha
yaṁ
bhikkhuṁ
suvacataraṁ
maññeyyātha
so
upasaṅkamitvā
evamassa
vacanīyo:
‘āyasmantānaṁ
kho
atthato
hi
sameti,
byañjanato
nānaṁ.
Tadamināpetaṁ
āyasmanto
jānātha—
yathā
atthato
hi
kho
sameti,
byañjanato
nānaṁ.
Appamattakaṁ
kho
panetaṁ
yadidaṁ—byañjanaṁ.
Māyasmanto
appamattake
vivādaṁ
āpajjitthā’ti.
Athāparesaṁ
ekatopakkhikānaṁ
bhikkhūnaṁ
yaṁ
bhikkhuṁ
suvacataraṁ
maññeyyātha
so
upasaṅkamitvā
evamassa
vacanīyo:
‘āyasmantānaṁ
kho
atthato
hi
sameti,
byañjanato
nānaṁ.
Tadamināpetaṁ
āyasmanto
jānātha—
yathā
atthato
hi
kho
sameti,
byañjanato
nānaṁ.
Appamattakaṁ
kho
panetaṁ
yadidaṁ—byañjanaṁ.
Māyasmanto
appamattake
vivādaṁ
āpajjitthā’ti.
Iti
suggahitaṁ
suggahitato
dhāretabbaṁ,
duggahitaṁ
duggahitato
dhāretabbaṁ.
Now, you might think, ‘These two venerables agree on the meaning but disagree on the phrasing.’ So you should approach whichever mendicant you think is most amenable and say to them: ‘The venerables agree on the meaning but disagree on the phrasing. But the venerables should know that this is how such agreement on the meaning and disagreement on the phrasing comes to be. But the phrasing is a minor matter. Please don’t get into a dispute about something so minor.’ Then you should approach whichever mendicant they think is most amenable among those who side with the other party and say to them: ‘The venerables agree on the meaning but disagree on the phrasing. But the venerables should know that this is how such agreement on the meaning and disagreement on the phrasing comes to be. But the phrasing is a minor matter. Please don’t get into a dispute about something so minor.’ So you should remember what has been correctly memorized as correctly memorized and what has been incorrectly memorized as incorrectly memorized.
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