At Sāmagāma · Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato, SuttaCentral
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thusEvaṁ
by meme
heardsutaṁ—
oneekaṁ
timesamayaṁ
the Blessed Onebhagavā
among the Sakyanssakkesu
separately·dwellviharati
at Sāmagāmasāmagāme.
So I have heard. At one time the Buddha was staying in the land of the Sakyans near the village of Sāma.
by thatTena
nowkho
thenpana
at the timesamayena
the Jain asceticnigaṇṭho
of the Ñātika clannāṭaputto
at Pāvāpāvāyaṁ
recently passed awayadhunākālaṅkato
washoti.
with hisTassa
passingkālaṅkiriyāya
splitbhinnā
the Jain asceticsnigaṇṭhā
twofold·becomedvedhikajātā
fighting·becomebhaṇḍanajātā
quarreling·becomekalahajātā
disputingvivādāpannā
each otheraññamaññaṁ
mouth·spearmukhasattīhi
apart·strikevitudantā
they dwellviharanti:
“not“na
youtvaṁ
thisimaṁ
teaching·trainingdhammavinayaṁ
understandājānāsi,
Iahaṁ
thisimaṁ
teaching·trainingdhammavinayaṁ
understandājānāmi.
whatKiṁ
youtvaṁ
thisimaṁ
teaching·trainingdhammavinayaṁ
will understandājānissasi.
practicing wrongMicchāpaṭipanno
you aretvamasi,
I·amahamasmi
practicing rightsammāpaṭipanno.
on topicSahitaṁ
for meme,
not·consistentasahitaṁ
for youte.
before·to-be-saidPurevacanīyaṁ
lastpacchā
you saidavaca,
after·to-be-saidpacchāvacanīyaṁ
firstpure
you saidavaca.
what you’ve thought so much aboutAdhiciṇṇaṁ
yourte
has been disprovedviparāvattaṁ.
refutedĀropito
yourte
doctrinevādo.
you are trappedNiggahitosi,
go oncara
for the freeing of your doctrinevādappamokkhāya;
get yourself outnibbeṭhehi
orvā
ifsace
you canpahosī”ti.
slaughter indeedVadhoyeva
nowkho
I thinkmaññe
among the Jain asceticsnigaṇṭhesu
of the Ñātika clannāṭaputtiyesu
goes onvattati.
who·indeedYepi
of the Jainnigaṇṭhassa
Ñātikanāṭaputtassa
disciplessāvakā
laygihī
white·clothedodātavasanā
those·indeedtepi
in the Jain asceticsnigaṇṭhesu
of the Ñātika clannāṭaputtiyesu
disillusioned·appearingnibbinnarūpā
dismayed·appearingvirattarūpā
disappointed·appearingpaṭivānarūpā
asyathā
thattaṁ
badly·explaineddurakkhāte
teaching·trainingdhammavinaye
badly·propoundedduppavedite
not·emancipatinganiyyānike
not·peace·leading-toanupasamasaṁvattanike
not·fully-awakened-Buddha·proclaimedasammāsambuddhappavedite
broken·monumentbhinnathūpe
without a refugeappaṭisaraṇe.
Now at that time the Jain ascetic of the Ñātika clan had recently passed away at Pāvā. With his passing the Jain ascetics split, dividing into two factions, fighting, quarreling, and disputing, continually wounding each other with barbed words: “You don’t understand this teaching and training. I understand this teaching and training. What, you understand this teaching and training? You’re practicing wrong. I’m practicing right. I stay on topic, you don’t. You said last what you should have said first. You said first what you should have said last. What you’ve thought so much about has been disproved. Your doctrine is refuted. Go on, save your doctrine! You’re trapped; get yourself out of this—if you can!” You’d think there was nothing but slaughter going on among the Jain ascetics. And the Jain Ñātika’s white-clothed lay disciples were disillusioned, dismayed, and disappointed in the Jain ascetics. They were equally disappointed with a teaching and training so poorly explained and poorly propounded, not emancipating, not leading to peace, proclaimed by someone who is not a fully awakened Buddha, with broken monument and without a refuge.
thenAtha
indeedkho
Cundacundo
ascetic·traineesamaṇuddeso
at Pāvāpāvāyaṁ
rains·residedvassaṁvuṭṭho
whereyena
Sāmagāmasāmagāmo
where Venerableyenāyasmā
Ānandaānando
he approachedtenupasaṅkami;
near·having goneupasaṅkamitvā
Venerableāyasmantaṁ
Ānandaānandaṁ
towards·having spokenabhivādetvā
to one sideekamantaṁ
he sat downnisīdi.
to one sideEkamantaṁ
down·seatednisinno
indeedkho
Cundacundo
ascetic·traineesamaṇuddeso
Venerableāyasmantaṁ
Ānandaānandaṁ
said thisetadavoca:
Nigaṇṭha“nigaṇṭho,
sirbhante,
Nāṭaputtanāṭaputto
at Pāvāpāvāyaṁ
recently passed awayadhunākālaṅkato.
hisTassa
at the passing awaykālaṅkiriyāya
splitbhinnā
Nigaṇṭhasnigaṇṭhā
twofold·becomedvedhikajātā
…pe……pe…
broken·shrinebhinnathūpe
without refugeappaṭisaraṇe”ti.
And then, after completing the rainy season residence near Pāvā, the novice Cunda went to see Venerable Ānanda at Sāma village. He bowed, sat down to one side, and told him what had happened.
thusEvaṁ
when saidvutte,
venerableāyasmā
Ānandaānando
Cundacundaṁ
monk·traineesamaṇuddesaṁ
this·sayetadavoca:
there is“atthi
indeedkho
thisidaṁ,
friendāvuso
Cundacunda,
talk·broughtkathāpābhataṁ
the Buddhabhagavantaṁ
to seedassanāya.
let us goĀyāma,
friendāvuso
Cundacunda,
whereyena
the Buddhabhagavā
there·approachtenupasaṅkamissāma;
having approachedupasaṅkamitvā
this·matteretamatthaṁ
of the Buddhabhagavato
we will informārocessāmā”ti.
yes“Evaṁ,
sirbhante”ti
indeedkho
Cundacundo
monk·traineesamaṇuddeso
of the venerableāyasmato
Ānandaānandassa
repliedpaccassosi.
thenAtha
indeedkho
venerableāyasmā
andca
Ānandaānando
Cundacundo
andca
monk·traineesamaṇuddeso
whereyena
the Buddhabhagavā
there·approachtenupasaṅkamiṁsu;
having approachedupasaṅkamitvā
the Buddhabhagavantaṁ
having bowedabhivādetvā
to one sideekamantaṁ
they sat downnisīdiṁsu.
to one sideEkamantaṁ
seatednisinno
indeedkho
venerableāyasmā
Ānandaānando
the Buddhabhagavantaṁ
this·sayetadavoca:
this“ayaṁ,
sirbhante,
Cundacundo
monk·traineesamaṇuddeso
thus·sayevamāha:
the Jaina ascetic‘nigaṇṭho,
sirbhante,
Nātaputtanāṭaputto
at Pāvāpāvāyaṁ
recently·dieadhunākālaṅkato.
hisTassa
because of deathkālaṅkiriyāya
dividedbhinnā
Jainasnigaṇṭhā
twofold·becomedvedhikajātā
……pe…
break·monumentbhinnathūpe
without refugeappaṭisaraṇe’ti.
of meTassa
to memayhaṁ,
sirbhante,
thusevaṁ
it occurshoti:
let not‘mā
indeedheva
of the Buddhabhagavato
after passing awayaccayena
in the Saṅghasaṅghe
disputevivādo
may ariseuppajji;
that·besvāssa
disputevivādo
for the welfare of many peoplebahujanāhitāya
for the happiness of many peoplebahujanāsukhāya
of manybahuno
peoplejanassa
for the harmanatthāya
for the detrimentahitāya
for the sufferingdukkhāya
of gods and humansdevamanussānan’”ti.
Ānanda said to him, “Reverend Cunda, we should see the Buddha about this matter. Come, let’s go to the Buddha and inform him about this.” “Yes, sir,” replied Cunda. Then Ānanda and Cunda went to the Buddha, bowed, sat down to one side, and Ānanda informed him of what Cunda had said. He went on to say, “Sir, it occurs to me: ‘When the Buddha has passed away, let no dispute arise in the Saṅgha. For such a dispute would be for the detriment and unhappiness of the people, against the people, for the harm, detriment, and suffering of gods and humans.’”
that“Taṁ
whatkiṁ
you thinkmaññasi,
Ānandaānanda,
whichye
of youvo
by memayā
teachingsdhammā
direct·knowabhiññā
taughtdesitā,
that isseyyathidaṁ—
fourcattāro
mindfulness·foundationsatipaṭṭhānā
fourcattāro
right effortssammappadhānā
fourcattāro
power·baseiddhipādā
five facultiespañcindriyāni
fivepañca
powersbalāni
sevensatta
awakening factorsbojjhaṅgā
nobleariyo
eightfoldaṭṭhaṅgiko
pathmaggo,
you seepassasi
indeedno
youtvaṁ,
Ānandaānanda,
in theseimesu
teachingsdhammesu
two·evendvepi
mendicantsbhikkhū
with different viewsnānāvāde”ti?
which“Ye
by meme,
sirbhante,
teachingsdhammā
by the Blessed Onebhagavatā
direct·knowabhiññā
taughtdesitā,
that isseyyathidaṁ—
fourcattāro
mindfulness·foundationsatipaṭṭhānā
fourcattāro
right effortssammappadhānā
fourcattāro
power·baseiddhipādā
five facultiespañcindriyāni
fivepañca
powersbalāni
sevensatta
awakening factorsbojjhaṅgā
nobleariyo
eightfoldaṭṭhaṅgiko
pathmaggo,
I do notnāhaṁ
I seepassāmi
in theseimesu
teachingsdhammesu
two·evendvepi
mendicantsbhikkhū
with different viewsnānāvāde.
someYe
andca
indeedkho,
sirbhante,
individualspuggalā
the Blessed Onebhagavantaṁ
seeming to be obedientpatissayamānarūpā
they liveviharanti
they·alsotepi
of the Blessed Onebhagavato
after the passing awayaccayena
in the Saṅghasaṅghe
disputevivādaṁ
they might createjaneyyuṁ
regarding livelihoodajjhājīve
orvā
the monastic codeadhipātimokkhe
orvā.
and thatSvāssa
disputevivādo
for the harm of many peoplebahujanāhitāya
for the unhappiness of many peoplebahujanāsukhāya
of manybahuno
of peoplejanassa
for the detrimentanatthāya
for the harmahitāya
for the sufferingdukkhāya
of gods and humansdevamanussānan”ti.
minor“Appamattako
thatso,
Ānandaānanda,
disputevivādo
that isyadidaṁ—ajjhājīve
orvā
the monastic codeadhipātimokkhe
orvā.
“What do you think, Ānanda? Do you see even two mendicants whose opinion differs regarding the things I have taught from my direct knowledge, that is, the four kinds of mindfulness meditation, the four right efforts, the four bases of psychic power, the five faculties, the five powers, the seven awakening factors, and the noble eightfold path?” “No, sir, I do not. Nevertheless, there are some individuals who appear to live obedient to the Buddha, but when the Buddha has passed away they might create a dispute in the Saṅgha regarding livelihood or the monastic code. Such a dispute would be for the detriment and unhappiness of the people, against the people, for the harm, detriment, and suffering of gods and humans.” “Ānanda, dispute about livelihood or the monastic code is a minor matter.
concerning the pathMagge orvā indeedhi, Ānandaānanda, concerning the practicepaṭipadāya orvā in the Saṅghasaṅghe a disputevivādo arisinguppajjamāno should ariseuppajjeyya; that would besvāssa a disputevivādo for the detriment of many peoplebahujanāhitāya for the unhappiness of many peoplebahujanāsukhāya of manybahuno of peoplejanassa for the harmanatthāya for the detrimentahitāya for the sufferingdukkhāya of gods and humansdevamanussānaṁ.
But should a dispute arise in the Saṅgha concerning the path or the practice, that would be for the detriment and unhappiness of the people, against the people, for the harm, detriment, and suffering of gods and humans.
six + theseChayimāni,
Ānandaānanda,
dispute·rootsvivādamūlāni.
whichKatamāni
six?cha?
here, ĀnandaIdhānanda,
a mendicantbhikkhu
irritablekodhano
ishoti
acrimoniousupanāhī.
whichYo
suchso,
Ānandaānanda,
a mendicantbhikkhu
irritablekodhano
ishoti
acrimoniousupanāhī
suchso
teacher + evensattharipi
without respectagāravo
dwellsviharati
without reverenceappatisso,
teaching + evendhammepi
without respectagāravo
dwellsviharati
without reverenceappatisso,
Saṅgha + evensaṅghepi
without respectagāravo
dwellsviharati
without reverenceappatisso,
training + evensikkhāyapi
notna
one who fulfillsparipūrakārī
ishoti.
whichYo
suchso,
Ānandaānanda,
a mendicantbhikkhu
for the Teachersatthari
without respectagāravo
dwellsviharati
without reverenceappatisso,
for the teachingdhamme
……
for the Saṅghasaṅghe
without respectagāravo
dwellsviharati
without reverenceappatisso,
in the trainingsikkhāya
notna
one who fulfillsparipūrakārī
ishoti,
suchso
in the Saṅghasaṅghe
disputevivādaṁ
createsjaneti;
whichyo
ishoti
disputevivādo
for the detriment of many peoplebahujanāhitāya
for the unhappiness of many peoplebahujanāsukhāya,
of manybahuno
of peoplejanassa
for the harmanatthāya
for the detrimentahitāya
for the sufferingdukkhāya
of gods and humansdevamanussānaṁ.
such + ifEvarūpañce
youtumhe,
Ānandaānanda,
root of disputevivādamūlaṁ
in yourselvesajjhattaṁ
orvā
in othersbahiddhā
orvā
would seesamanupasseyyātha,
theretatra
youtumhe,
Ānandaānanda,
of that verytasseva
badpāpakassa
root of disputevivādamūlassa
for the giving uppahānāya
should tryvāyameyyātha.
Ānanda, there are these six roots of dispute. What six? Firstly, a mendicant is irritable and acrimonious. Such a mendicant lacks respect and reverence for the Teacher, the teaching, and the Saṅgha, and they don’t fulfill the training. They create a dispute in the Saṅgha, which is for the detriment and unhappiness of the people, against the people, for the harm, detriment, and suffering of gods and humans. If you see such a root of dispute in yourselves or others, you should try to give up this bad thing.
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